Hello,

I am trying to send BTS to Shapeshift but I am getting the following error: "Can not validate return address". I have tried inputing my account name and the public key, I get the same error. Unfortunately, Shapeshift has not replied since yesterday.

Does anyone have any insight to the issue?

Thanks

Anyone from the community attending the event? I'm not as concerned about core devs, they have their hands full.

I will be there with another member of the community.

Stan is a founder of this project that has been critical to its inception and survival.

How much evidence of a lack of production is needed before a change in leadership is considered in marketing?

How much money needs to be spent with out a measurable ROI? Does anyone realize that with just $10k/month the right leader could run an entire marketing company with constant measurable production? And, that is not even considering this glorious community of passionate volunteers...that goes ignored!

Waiting for 1.0 is simply the fashionable excuse for this quarter, and completely irrelevant. There are infinite amounts opportunities to gain traction, users, good will, PR, traffic and educate. I would understand it somewhat if we were talking about a completely volunteer effort that never got paid a nickel, but that is simply not the case. By that line of thinking we should be at 0 market cap, waiting for 1.0. It does not make any sense.

It is a shame that after a year so absolutely little has been produced and yet nothing has fundamentally changed with official marketing efforts and its structure.


What options do we have as a community/shareholders to make changes in this area? The official marketing team and strategy seems to be ideologically and intellectually opposed to the philosophy of Bitshares that drew me into this community in the beginning.

On a positive note, the Nullstreet boys are encouraging, and personally give me hope where I had honestly lost it in terms of marketing.

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Quote from: Rune on November 20, 2014, 11:09:55 am

Going to give my honest feedback. Not happy with this. Its exactly as i feared; people who go on this site will have no idea what bitshares actually is, and all they'll see are emotionally loaded words instead of any real explanation or description.

I especially don't like the headline. Why not just have the name first, then put the buzzwords underneath? Verbing the product name just seems so tacky and forced.

Also the answer to the tagline question is going to be "because I have no clue what bitshare means". If you want to have a cheeky question like this then it should at least be at the bottom, after a proper description.

The pictures have no relation to the product either, other than showing some computers. Some people might be able to guess that this is a sell page for software but many will get to the bottom and still have zero clue what the entire thing is for.

for this you have to ask which target groups we're trying to reach ... as said before … when we want to hit mainstream… the average user doens't want to know how it works ..
he want's to know that it works ... Guess most of paypal users don't know whats go behind the scenes ...

If i may ask.. which image language you would go with ?... Problem IMO is if you want it like it is .. completely technical …then you can't catch the *masses with it … they aren'T interested in this technical stuff ...

but thx for your input
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No, Rune is absolutely correct. It's obvious you guys are trying to target my parents but the problem is my parents will never be interested in Bitshares unless I set up an account for them and explain what it is. You guys have your target audience completely wrong; you should be speaking to likely early adopters. As a marketer, if I send traffic to bitshares.org, there is no way it will convert into either wallet downloads or buyers because it fails to explain what the concept actually is in any meaningful way. It's just a mash of buzzwords. Be clear, not clever.

 

I could not agree more. This is a slick looking brochure that achieves pretty much nothing.

Example:
"Low cost
How do you avoid a swarm of killer fees?
Eliminate the middle men, overhead and bloated profits of traditional banks. Truly buzzworthy."

What does that mean? What is the point?

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There are plenty of available channels and networks in Argentina. I can help facilitate anything in the region.

Excellent! Was it you who added me to Skype? So many people have added me recently I've lost track. My apologies.

Yes.

The first thing we would need is everything translated into Spanish.

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The only people who've lost out in the equity deals are the key talent that drive the underlying development. If this was a centralised venture they'd have much more equity.

I think this point cannot be driven home enough.... FollowMyVote had 30% stake in VOTE and now has 1% stake vesting over 2 years.   I3 had a much larger stake in VOTE than in BTSX and now has a much smaller stake in BTS and Toast had a much larger stake in DNS and now has a small stake in BTS. 

Would the core developers agree to this strategy if they didn't think it would be better for them as a whole?   It was a very hard decision for everyone.

Damn you guys need to learn something about PR. Why wasn't that the very start of the OP?? Why didn't you mention that the dev stakes aren't included in the buyout?? You guys utterly baffle me. You're announcing a huge major buyout of several companies, and you completely botch the announcement, and then you don't even seem to realize how badly you botched it.

You are damn right!!!!!!!

Yes we realize it.

This may be the right time to reorganize your marketing department. It is insane to think that there is one. If you are not getting properly consulted on how to communicate such important, fundamental messages there are very serious flaws in its structure.

Marketing is the process of communicating the value of a product or service to customers, for the purpose of selling that product or service. Another simple definition of "marketing" is "managing profitable customer relationships".

Marketing can be looked at as an organizational function and a set of processes for creating, delivering and communicating value to customers, and customer relationship management that also benefits the organization. Marketing is the science of choosing target markets through market analysis and market segmentation, as well as understanding consumer behavior and providing superior customer value. From a societal point of view, marketing is the link between a society's material requirements and its economic patterns of response. Marketing satisfies these needs and wants through exchange processes and building long term relationships.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketing

Can you honestly say that the BTS Marketing efforts are effective based on the the above definition?

Quote from: delulo on October 21, 2014, 04:54:09 pm

Otherwise arhag would be a GREAT fit here.

Fully Agree !!!
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