My personal opinion on copyright is that it is invalid and may only be enforced on those who attempt to claim their own copyrights.  Any party releasing binaries that do not follow the license that comes with the code have, in my opinion, given up all copyright in anything they do as demonstrated by their actions.   

DGA has received his payment and as such has not been harmed by these actions.

Because copyright is invalid, I cannot blame them for their actions unless they are shown to be hypocritical.   That said, I would consider everyone who uses these binaries and believes in copyright to also be hypocritical. 

I also believe that the free market solution to resolving these kinds of disputes is to simply refuse to do business with these individuals if they are found to be hypocritical in this manner. 

The other solution is to undercut them, copy their binaries and modify the payment address inside the binary to be the ANGEL address, provide a proxy that intercepts their packets and rewrites the payment address, or some other solution that destroys their market advantage.  Remember, they have no copyright and by doing so you are not stealing anything from them.

Bytemaster, I have to totally disagree. This discussion is not about copyright and credits. It's about copyleft.

And I have to agree in all points with the thread starter. These licenses are not enforcing copyright and restricting the usage and distribution, in opposite, they encourage to do so as long as you respect the terms and conditions which include to release all work based on the code under same open source standards as defined in the license.

And how is the sanity of my posts controlled ?

People will see your posts and your nick and will start recognizing you as a member of the community.

Cant I just post useless information all over the forum this way?

Yes, but you will not likely find people who want to trade with you.

Isnt this encouraging of "not so useful" posts just for the sake of trading?

Maybe, but again at least you will be recognized.

And what If I go to off-topic section to post 20 jokes in a separate well named thread ?

You keep asking the same questions. Some people are actually doing stuff like that to obtain a higher forum rank.

You have to understand that this is a precaution we introduced recently to fight of the huge amount high volume scamming attempts. People were using nicks that looked similar to moderator nicknames and tried to scam Protoshares worth tenthousends of dollars.

These guys are recognized earlier if they have to post 20 messages on the forums before they can access the trading zone.

I hope this clears up stuff. If you dont want to get involved with this forum community anyways, you can still trade at the known exchanges. The volumes are high and the fees are low.

Could you add more details?

I dont see any issue here:

Sy reports 15.34 PTS: http://pts.syware.de/?a=PsmanuFE1Jaba2kKQBYgRXPjJJk5eZRyWn
Plorer says 15.19 PTS: https://coinplorer.com/PTS/Addresses/PsmanuFE1Jaba2kKQBYgRXPjJJk5eZRyWn
The explorer only reports paid TX, that's why its reporting less.

But I dont see missing 10 PTS anywhere.

If you have been hacked, who will be responsible for the loss?

Earthquakes, fires, epidemics, amnesia…… There are many things to consider.I am sorry.

I am responsible for the loss and will compensate if nessesary. But it wont happen.

I think tAGS is a bit "opposite" to the philosophy of decentralized trading of bitshare (where AGS will go eventually).
It is centralized trading mechanism managed by one person.

Well, I agree, but tAGS is not more centralized than AGS are.

I wonder why these questions were not raised when AGS was introduced. I did not invent the wheel, I'm using it.

No offense, but its really not the same thing as converting AGS into a currency like PTS. Good luck on your plan - it will be interesting to follow.

Not sure if I can follow you. Why not?
You can sell your tAGS for PTS right away.

Our charity Horizontality.org has 25 wins, with little information disclosed in English concerning their operations:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2232.0
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2232.msg27063#msg27063

Most supporting addresses are only voting for that charity and no other officers.  The only supporting addresses of that charity voting for officers are voting for emre & s4l1h.

http://mmcvotes.com/address/MVTEchagLNup4HJycBxbxWVXdiXaWLvbDu

I'm casting 9 votes to kill the coins until we get more information:
MVTEcha11111111111111111111116GDGs

I'll clear those votes as soon as we get more info from Horizontality and/or other charity candidates can re-campaign to take control.

Well there is only 1 voter for Horizontality.org and that's SlyWax. You should rather PM him.

Sticky this thread!?

Quote from: Graffenwalder on January 08, 2014, 07:53:58 pm

Quote from: bytemaster on January 02, 2014, 07:22:29 am

https://blockchain.info/charts/received-per-day?timespan=30days&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=1ANGELwQwWxMmbdaSWhWLqBEtPTkWb8uDc

Why does the CSV file show a timestamp for 18:15? Shouldn't this be 0:00?
And If I'm not mistaken, the time of the first confirmation counts right? On 1-6, 10+ BTC was donated just before 0:00, but confirmed at 00:28. So are these numbers accurate?

This chart is just approximate, use one of the AGS explorer sites for more accurate info.

Well, unsticky this thread?

Ok, let's sum up the feedback so far:

• amazing
• awesome
• brilliant

Btw, I'm serious about this. Is it too much text or why isn't anyone commenting?

TLDR; I manage your AGS - you can do whatever you want with them; Sell, trade, donate for charity. Any questions?