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General Discussion / Is Blockchain-level Simple Market Making Bot Feasible?
« on: December 06, 2015, 05:42:12 am »
As someone suggested, simple market making bot at blockchain level would increase liquidity a lot. For example, one can make market at BTC:OPENBTC with less risks. The MM bot can read information on blockchain(e.g. feed price, highest bid, lowest ask), calculate some conditions (e.g. ratio of CNY/KRW feed), tolerance, update interval, etc.
If it is not feasible right now, we may need an easy-to-use MM program (.exe or .dmg or python script)

Now I only have rough ideas. Your thoughts?

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Technical Support / Settlement Limit Bug?
« on: December 05, 2015, 04:59:21 am »
AFAIK, settlement limit for GBP is 20% per day. However, three settlements (20% of total supply) took place in two hours. Is this a bug?
Please see,
http://cryptofresh.com/u/gbp-collateral-holder-0
http://cryptofresh.com/a/GBP

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Stakeholder Proposals / Is maqifrnswa active?
« on: December 03, 2015, 07:48:14 pm »
I haven't have any communication with him, and he haven't published any feeds. What status now? @maqifrnswa

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Technical Support / Please Check 151202 for Windows File
« on: December 02, 2015, 11:04:57 pm »
@valzav I downloaded 151202.exe and installed. But the version name is 151125. Wrong file?

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General Discussion / Order Creation/Cancellation Fee Discussion
« on: November 19, 2015, 12:46:52 am »
I want to start a discussion about order creation fee and cancellation fee. Basically, I want to listen about,

(1) Are you for or against lowering these fees?
(2) Which level do you prefer? (Ranges or specific value)
(3) Are there reasons about your preferred values?

Thanks for your invaluable opinions.

Add:
(4) Should we reduce call_order_update fee as well?

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General Discussion / Asking BM to Open More Committee Member Positions
« on: November 15, 2015, 04:49:47 pm »
Regarding recent fee debate, I found that the core cause of the problem is too few committee positions are open to public.
While significant number of votes are given to bitcrab (125 mil) and me (104 mil), it is hard to reflect supporter's opinion to the BTS system because committee council is dominated by init accounts.
@bytemaster Can you open some more positions to the public to resolve this endless debate? IMHO, the community should have at least six seats.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Trying to make an Agreement on Lowering Fees
« on: November 14, 2015, 07:01:57 pm »
I'm trying to make agreement among committee members on some core fees. Then we collectively request supports to the community.
Many committee members are arguing "lowering fees" but the level is not specified. What is your specific opinions about fees?

Let me start first.

Transfer: $0.03 (9 BTS)
Order creation: $0.003 (1 BTS)
Account creation: $0.285 (95 BTS)

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General Discussion / Then, let's talk about Increasing Fees
« on: November 14, 2015, 05:13:33 am »
If you think higher fee have much more advantage than lowering fee, let's 1.5x the current fee, say 60 BTS for transfer and 15 BTS for making orders.

Why? Because BTS price is decreasing. 60 BTS is $0.20.

Hopefully increasing fees works. But we should carefully look at market's response and people's (especially potential user's) reactions.

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General Discussion / Reasons for Lowering Fees
« on: November 14, 2015, 12:49:24 am »
BM's new proposal mentions that BitShares will reduce fees EXCEPT transfer, creating order, and account creation fees. This is somewhat disappointing to me because I have been arguing to lower transfer and order creation fees. In this post, I want to point out some reasons why BitShares has to lower its "core" fees.

1. We're in competition. It's the red ocean already.
Believe or not, we're not in the blue ocean. We now have two main products: value transfer service and exchange service.
Regarding transfer service, our main competitor is Bitcoin. Bitcoin transfer service uses a cryptocurrency, which hard to be hacked, and allows users to send money around the world.
Currently, Bitcoin's fee is about $0.03, and its ecosystem is incomparably huge than us. The only disadvantage of Bitcoin is its volatility, but there are many third party service trying to resolve or minimize this weak point.
So think about it, do people really want to use BitShares instead of Bitcoin to transfer money? I would say no.
To overcome Bitcoin, we have to play better than Bitcoin in many aspects. Yes, we have Smartcoins. But we also have higher transfer fees, four times higher than Bitcoin. One may say that BitShares is the premium service like Tesla or Apple. But they're commodities. Is there any premium financial service that only have rich people? Paypal? Chase? The key point in transfer (and even merchant) service is a large user-base. So our focus group in transfer service should be all kinds of people.
Then what should we do? I would suggest to lower the basic transfer fee to at least Bitcoin level (10 BTS, but 9 BTS is better). If we really want to incentivize to people to use our system, I would say 5 BTS. If we keep the transfer fee high, I'd rather use Bitcoin to purchase goods or transfer money.
For the exchange service, our main competitor is centralized exchange. My argument is simple. Which exchange charge order creation fee in addition to a percentage fee? The only exchange is BTS DEX. This is really annoying. Users may think that "BTS already took 0.2% of my money, and now asks me 20 cents more"
If we have percentage fees, order creation fee should be minimized. Thanks to ElMato's effort, we know that 1 BTS can be effective value to prevent spamming attack. So why don't we set the basic order creation fee at 1 BTS?

2. Fees can be increamental as our market cap grows.
Suppose we set our transfer fee at 5 BTS ($0.03). Of course it can be adjusted by committe proposal. But we can increase the fee as our market cap grows. Think about when Bitcoin was $1. Did it charge 0.03 BTC per transfer? As Bitcoin's market cap grows, it automatically increase its fee. If its price becomes $3,000, it will charge $0.3. But people may not care.
We can take the same strategy. I rather want to say, we should be humble. We only have 7.5 mil market cap, one out of tens of Bitcoin. Let's start with low fee and as market cap grows, fix the rate in terms of BTS.

3. A successful referrer in a loss
Someone say we should keep referring system with high fees. But if high fees prohibit our growth of user base and price, is it still important?
Which one do you prefer, doubled price of BTS with 10 refers, or 20 refers with halved price?
The key is the price now. If price goes up, it's easier to advertise BitShares. Then what makes price? Demands and user-base. I would recommend to remove all factors that drive out users. Bad UI? It's getting better. Low liquidity? Many are making market bots now. High fees? One may say lower fee is not the pulling factor. Right, lower fee does not guarantee more users. However, high fee is surely pushing factor. It makes people annoyed and drives out them.

4. Shareholders want lower fees
IMHO, BM's biggest mistake is listening some community members' voices with fluent English (Since my English is not good, I cannot persuade BM now). But see the voting result. Bitcrab and I have the largest votes, and we are both arguing for lowering fees. Shareholders show their opinion by votes. Why does BM keep ignoring shareholder's voice?


TL; DR
My suggestion is to lower the basic transfer fee to BTC level (9 BTS) and to lower the basic order creation fee just for preventing spammy attacks (1 BTS)

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Muse/SoundDAC / MUSE Price Discussion
« on: November 12, 2015, 05:35:35 pm »
I think this post can be a good start point for facilitating MUSE trade on our DEX (Decentralized Excange)
As you may know, we do have MUSE markets on the BitShares Platform!
See,

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/TRADE.MUSE_BTS
https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPENMUSE_BTS
https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPENMUSE_OPENBTC

But at the moment, the spread is too high and liquidity is quite low. In TRADE.MUSE market, highest buy is 0.25 and the lowest sell is 0.90 (BTS/MUSE)
OPENMUSE is sold at approximately 2.0 BTS/MUSE, and the highest bid is 0.25.
For your information, in Yunbi, the MUSE price is about 0.007 CNY, or 0.35 BTS/MUSE.

Anyone wants to sell or buy MUSE, come to the DEX.

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Technical Support / Openledger MUSE deposit does not work
« on: November 11, 2015, 11:39:52 pm »
I sent some MUSE with memo, but it didn't send me corresponding openmuse.

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General Discussion / BTC38's Fractional Balance?
« on: November 10, 2015, 01:12:56 pm »
Finally, they claimed their balance. I found some of their account and summed the total.

btc38-public-for-bts-cold: 228,400,000 BTS   http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-public-for-bts-cold
btc38-btsx-octo-72722:       96,200,000 BTS   http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-btsx-octo-72722
btc38btsxwithdrawal:             6,700,000 BTS  http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38btsxwithdrawal
btc38-btsx-octo-7272:               250.000 BTS  http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-btsx-octo-7272
btc38-btsx-octo-727222:           119,000 BTS  http://cryptofresh.com/u/btc38-btsx-octo-727222
Total: 331,669,000 BTS

HOWEVER, according to my screenshot taken at 10/14, they said that they have 346,759k BTS (maybe this number is higher than 10/13's but IIRC, they said at least 340 mil at the snapshot)

The difference  is about 15,000,000 BTS (122 BTC equivalent)
We need a official response from BTC 38

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We the committee members (candidates) support lower trading fees (1 BTS). Please vote for us!

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19670.0.html
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19693.0.html

P.S. If someone translate my proposal into Chinese I will give you 300 Brownies. :)

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Given the debates on lowering fees, especially trading related fees, I decided to represent community members who want to lower trading fees.

My goal is to make BitShares DEX more trader-attracting exchange, which means low trading fees, high liquidity, and a reliable system. I would like to argue that the most important thing for use at the moment is attracting new users (normal traders) to our DEX.

Therefore, the following is my proposal:

1. Basic trading fee for this moment is 1 BTS (cancellation fee for basic member is 0.8 BTS) and cancellation fee is 0.1 BTS

2. Trading fee is not more than 2 cents. If BTS price is 2 cents, the trading fee is still 2 cents. However, if the BTS price is over 2 cents, trading fee is changed to 0.5 BTS until BTS price goes up to 4 cents. Same as the cancellation fee.

3. Transfer fee will be lowered to 10 cents. (20 BTS when BTS price is $0.005)
Edit: when BTS price is over 1 cents, I support 20 cents (20 BTS). But under 1 cent price, I support under 10 cents (20 BTS)

4. Registration fees will be halved (from 190 to 95 BTS)

The success of BitShares is closely related to the expansion of the ecosystem. We need more and more users now. High profitability is the next thing. If you agree with me, please support me. Committee member "clayop"

Disclaimer: Since I am an active witness, if there is other committee member who can replace my position, I  like to resign with pleasure.

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General Discussion / Buy MUSE
« on: October 30, 2015, 07:14:24 pm »
I think a big news is coming  :)

(Ah.. there's no exchange... Buy NOTE anyway!)

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