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Another attempt to work this out logically...

What gives BitUSD a specific value in USD?

BitUSD is a contract with a fixed USD value backed by a promise to pay that corresponding USD value in BitShares.  The Bitshares network then provides a mechanism to ensure that all BitUSD is fully collateralized or that promise to pay is exercised. This leads to the next question, what gives a BitShare a specific USD value? 

Bitshares themselves can be traded on a cryptocurrency exchange for USD in the same way Bitcoin is bought and sold for USD on Bitstamp or Mt. Gox.  Bitshares have value because, like Bitcoin, they facilitate participation in the BitShares network while also providing equity in the network.



+1

I think this is simplest explanation so far.

It is very clear and simple indeed great explanation,  but to me still does't explain the "how" as in "Bitshares network then provides a mechanism ". As I understand it the analogy is for the mechanism of " pegging".
Toast and the musicians analogy explain  the "how".

 

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A non technical example for newbies

To buy 1 bitshare from a exchange cost you 10 USD , each bitshare  gives you 10 BitUSD.
If the buying price of 1 bitshare goes down to 5 USD then your bitshare will only be worth 5 BitUSD. So it does not matter how the price of bitshare fluctuates 1 BitUSD it will always be equal to 1 real USD.

Bitshares X it is a set of rules that use market consensus to force the value of a bitasset to always be equal to the value of the object that represents ex: BitUSD.

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General Discussion / Re: Trading PTS with PayPal
« on: January 15, 2014, 03:12:55 pm »
Don't buy coins on ebay is risky.  You should use Virwox here is how to do it :

http://99bitcoins.com/how-to-buy-bitcoin-with-a-credit-card/

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Nice watching this !!! Love the look.

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General Discussion / Re: Is it like you don't care about PTS?
« on: January 14, 2014, 07:45:40 pm »
Priority :
1.Keyhotee
2.Website
3.Bitshares
4. Marketing

We have adopted parallel and independent development tracts so Keyhotee will be developed at whatever pace Dan Notestein and team can manage.
Website is being working on in Parallel and Super3 is providing full time effort competing for the bounty. 
BitShares is being worked on in Parallel by ME 75% of the time and daily updates are being posted with a goal toward MVP.
Marketing is being worked on in Parallel by Brian full time and based upon what I have seen him produce internally you will be impressed.
Recruitment and partnership development is being managed by others.
Bounties will soon be managed by a new hire who will take on the roll of system integrator.

I have given each individual autonomy so that I do not become the bottleneck.  Until 12 days ago we couldn't even consider hiring anyone more, but with this boost in funding things will really start moving.    We are allocating a budget of 10% AGS funding to marketing as this is the industry average and Brian is actively working many angles to make most effective use of that.

Most of our marketing push has been held back by website update delays, but those delays will not last much longer. 

Bottom line is that what you see on the forum is the tip of the iceberg of amazing things going on.   We are betting our entire life and future on these things so I can assure you we care very much about PTS, AGS, BitShares, Keyhotee, etc.

Cheers

I like how you engage in the forums. If some of the other team members did so too that would be a fun update for us.
Carefull not everybody appreciates that :)

As for the rest I thing the bytemaster answer should cover every concerned raised.

thank. you.

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Other Languages / Re: France (Français)
« on: January 14, 2014, 06:43:45 pm »
 !France (Français)! donc si je ne suis pas français  pas le droite ici ? :)

Alors le PTS le prix descend a cause de AGS puisque c'est plus intéressent de vendre  PTS pour acheter BTC et ensuite investir dans AGS.

Pour ce qui veulent encore miner avec leur propre ordi je crois que c'est un peu trop tard puisque ça ne veux pas la peine comme vous pouvez voir ça prend deux semaine et plus juste pour avoir un PTS. Donc je crois que la meilleur chose c'est des acheter. Les prix de PTS vos encore descendre un peu et ensuite vont monté ainsi que le AGS.

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General Discussion / Re: Is it like you don't care about PTS?
« on: January 14, 2014, 06:25:28 pm »
So let see :

-3I it is a 2 month old company,and  in those two months they manage to crowdfound  more than a million dollar and they will have more then 2  millions by the end of the third month . For that matter how's your start-up compare ? Or any start-up  in this short time frame?
-they have a full team working on Keyhotee around the clock and they delivered the first alpha version. Read the last newsletter, they explained why the delay for keyhotee, in fact they  addressee all your concerns that you raise here.
-finding new good developers, as you should know, is not easy, finding new developers familiar with cryptoworld is even harder. Bounties it is a way to find those rare developers and to attract that talent make those bounty worthwhile I remember when they announce that they have a team working around the clock for keyhotee, some complained that this is not the right approach and bounty should be the way to do it etc. Well, I guess they have them both now. But I guess this is not good enough either ....

You make some good points tough  :

-I agree some of the bounties they are more efficient done by hiring professionals like for the website. In my opinion the website should be one of the top priorities right know, and should have been done by know.
-Marketing until now not the best thing !!( but I have fate on Brian  )
-"How about you leave the forum to your great batch of moderators and go ahead with things that actually require your attention?" I thing although bytemaster presence is essential on the forum,  I think now there are enough people that could moderate and answer most parts. He already started doing that.
-Most of you concerns are addressed in the forum, but not everybody has the time to look this is very true and this must be improved. The newsletter is not enough, some kind of global news once a week will clarify things for everybody. 

Yeah sure there are things that should and must be improved but let's be objective here. Blaming it the easiest thing to do.
To tell truth, im not sure that load marketing campaign is good for Bts project on this stage.
We would receive more funding, its good, but we already have enough investments flows, more important for now to develop exceptional product ,so that new people start to use Bts system from start.
Priority :
1.Keyhotee
2.Website
3.Bitshares
4. Marketing

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Why are all bounties issued in Pts?
 I have already stated this in one of discussions but it has gone without gaining much of attention.
I think this situation with bounties is no winning. That is, because some compromises were made from very beginning and now we are dealing with its consequences.

One of compromise is that all bounties are issued in Pts. First consequence is that developing participants are limited to these community members only. This is small community and very small portion seams interested and/or able to participate in development work. Second consequence is that same people are after all the bounties. I am not concern about them winning all rewords, but the funds being wasted on modest results with possibly big time delays. If the intention was for community to do all development work then it shouldn’t be raising any funds and rewording any bounties.

My understanding of the Angelshere funds is that this is money raised to be spending in best community interest not on its best skilled and most active parts.

What I am suggesting is for those bounties and/or sales contracts, to find the way to all thinkable labor markets.  It doesn’t matter if you need to pay in Usd , BTC or PTS. After all, there are existing exchanges that could easily provide such kind of flexibility. And yes I know it would disturb the market of Pts but it would only be temporarily, before the market reaches its equilibrium. So I suggest more of strategic thinking instead of tactic one. More so I believe it would bring much benefit by providing broader attention and significant publicity. 
My intention was to point out to above issues and hear other opinions related to above matter.
Agree you could give the option two pay PTS or BTC.

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General Discussion / Re: Is it like you don't care about PTS?
« on: January 14, 2014, 06:10:30 pm »
So let see :

-3I it is a 2 month old company,and  in those two months they manage to crowdfound  more than a million dollar and they will have more then 2  millions by the end of the third month . For that matter how's your start-up compare ? Or any start-up  in this short time frame?
-they have a full team working on Keyhotee around the clock and they delivered the first alpha version. Read the last newsletter, they explained why the delay for keyhotee, in fact they  addressee all your concerns that you raise here.
-finding new good developers, as you should know, is not easy, finding new developers familiar with cryptoworld is even harder. Bounties it is a way to find those rare developers and to attract that talent make those bounty worthwhile I remember when they announce that they have a team working around the clock for keyhotee, some complained that this is not the right approach and bounty should be the way to do it etc. Well, I guess they have them both now. But I guess this is not good enough either ....

You make some good points tough  :

-I agree some of the bounties they are more efficient done by hiring professionals like for the website. In my opinion the website should be one of the top priorities right know, and should have been done by know.
-Marketing until now not the best thing !!( but I have fate on Brian  )
-"How about you leave the forum to your great batch of moderators and go ahead with things that actually require your attention?" I thing although bytemaster presence is essential on the forum,  I think now there are enough people that could moderate and answer most parts. He already started doing that.
-Most of you concerns are addressed in the forum, but not everybody has the time to look this is very true and this must be improved. The newsletter is not enough, some kind of global news once a week will clarify things for everybody. 

Yeah sure there are things that should and must be improved but let's be objective here. Blaming it the easiest thing to do.

565
Keyhotee / Re: Post your Alpha Keyhotee Public Key and Be known!
« on: January 14, 2014, 02:43:10 am »
4tZjnqwuo5WhGeWEUvsromF2xKSajUytx6nP4UDczjPsvE31Rm

567
Very good !!

568
General Discussion / Re: BitShares vs Ethereum
« on: January 12, 2014, 05:18:51 pm »

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BitShares AGS / Re: Angeladdress PTS rewarded with BTS?
« on: January 09, 2014, 07:31:09 pm »
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Question i came up with when looking at the daily PTS AGS auction.

Will this Angel PTS also be available for the BTS conversion or will only the PTS excluded from the Angeladdress be able to get their BTS share?

Looks like if the same ratio goes on till the end of the auction 1/3 of total PTS willbe in hands of Invictus again. This is ofcourse not a problem but it will be a double topping because this auction PTS can be used to get BTS also which makes it a double income for Invictus. This gives me mixed feelings....

What you guys think of what should be done?

when the day comes for the first BTS chain and 200 Days are over. With this ratio the PTS address "PaNGELmZgzRQCKeEKM6ifgTqNkC4ceiAWw" holds 500k PTS. So 500k BTS will be rewarded to this address, if you see it this way it will be a double spending, because the public key of "PaNGELmZgzRQCKeEKM6ifgTqNkC4ceiAWw" is in the hands of invictus. This is much better then more value will be in hands of Invictus to push harder and faster.

That is a good point I may be miss that  part but Invictus should make it very clear what they will do with all the bitshares when the forking will occur, unless by the time of the genesis block no protoshare will be on the PTS angel address.


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Great work , I love  the scale idea.

My 2 cents :

I think instead of protoshare you meant Bitshare : Lends money into existence using your bitshare as collateral
Same thing here : Can call you loan if BTS fall in value

In my opinion I don't thing we should mention Protoshare  at all too much information already. We should stick only with Bitshare in this info-graphic. Already it is kind of difficult to grasp the polymorphic part of Bitshare for newbie.   

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