Author Topic: [ANN] Cryptonomex Begins Licensing BitShares 2.0 Technology To Partner Chains  (Read 3081 times)

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Offline phillyguy

So if someone wants to license Graphene for a private chain, can they just buy the license from Cryptonomex, or do they have to buy it AND share drop on BTS holders? Or is share dropping on BTS not required, but could get them a discount on the license?

Cryptonomex is a private co so they can make any deals they want for Graphene licenses and don't have disclose anything to "us" anyway.

This whole announcement seems like more kicking the can/dangling yet another carrot/just generally keeping the BTS community on the hook to me. Announcement for the sake of an announcement.
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Stan's announcement is new, welcome information....peertracks did not have to use graphene.

Cryptonomex tries to take a very open policy to licensing its technology everywhere we can without impacting our existing chains.

They can license graphene to whomever but have committed to only doing so if it won't damage existing Blockchains like Bitshares. Also, if a different project wants Graphene for a different use case, they might sharedrop depending on their community support expectations/requirements/funding ambition.


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You should read this announcement very carefully before you say there's nothing new here.

But even if it was all known to you, the goal is assemble everything we've got going on into a web of news releases and links where people can find it and attract investors and new partners who haven't been hanging out here on this forum.  Each new item calls attention to all the previous and future items and is worth doing for that reason alone.  This is a Google search engine optimization problem, so we have to mix in all the facts that will help, even if some are known to some of you already.

Anyhow, this is another piece of the puzzle.
If you don't like puzzles, wait till the end of Summer and see what it looks like then.
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Here's the corresponding press released mentioned above:

http://www.pressadvantage.com/story/3298-peer-tracks-announces-new-music-site-that-runs-on-cryptonomex-blockchain-technology

Excellent article w/ top-notch content. Unfortunately, the writing has quite a few typos and grammatical issues. I really hope they can hire a good PR professional soon.

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So if someone wants to license Graphene for a private chain, can they just buy the license from Cryptonomex, or do they have to buy it AND share drop on BTS holders? Or is share dropping on BTS not required, but could get them a discount on the license?


Even if some of the deals turned out to be a private one, it may not be bad to bts holders.  The licensing fees to CNX means more funding for the development of bts.  This is good for bts holders.

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Not when we have other partners joining us.
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Okay, understand now that Peertracks picking up Graphene is new, thanks.  Also forgot about the SEO element, so that makes sense too.
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But MUSE is not a new partner, they have really been partners for 18 months already.

Yes. I think we are looking forward to the _other_ partners. :)

"Several new “Bitcoin 2.0” blockchains are expected to adopt the same great technology this fall"

Exactly.  And those blockchains should sharedrop onto BTS, when they come.  (If they are using their own blockchain with Graphene).

Not necessarily and probably won't. They only have to pay BM and co. for the license.

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Not necessarily and probably won't. They only have to pay BM and co. for the license.
I'd call this statement "far fetched" .. BM stated already that they will need define the "cost of a license" on an per-case basis and that sharedropping onto BTS will make it easier ..

But I agree that this may force BM to make "difficult" decisions ..
Though, keep in mind that any project that wants to run graphene and sharedrops ontop of BTS will basically hand out free money!! (no one should be forced to do so .. kind of)
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Not necessarily and probably won't. They only have to pay BM and co. for the license.
I'd call this statement "far fetched" .. BM stated already that they will need define the "cost of a license" on an per-case basis and that sharedropping onto BTS will make it easier ..

But I agree that this may force BM to make "difficult" decisions ..
Though, keep in mind that any project that wants to run graphene and sharedrops ontop of BTS will basically hand out free money!! (no one should be forced to do so .. kind of)

We have seen that sharedropping for the 'network effect' hasn't been popular. Lets say someone approaches BM and co. for licensing Graphene, and offers some amount in cash, or half of the amount and another half in sharedrop. In that case it makes sense to choose the first option.

Like it or not, and while I do understand the need for CNX, the interests of BTS and CNX are not exactly aligned. CNX only needs BTS to demonstrate functionality.

They can license graphene to whomever but have committed to only doing so if it won't damage existing Blockchains like Bitshares.

The same commitment that the Counterparty devs had? If you look through the thread on Bitcointalk you will see pages after pages being dedicated to how awesome and selfless those devs were.
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You should read this announcement very carefully ...
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Cant read a thing on that board ... too bad

It is all about perspective...

The fanboys will spin it like this - 'The map was covered by the first (Graphine) Invisible Cloth' like this: http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/building-invisible-materials-with-light

And the cynics like me will say - 'Well, at least the map is much clearer (and thought out ) than he profit generation scheme of PeerTracks.... "

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Cant read a thing on that board ... too bad

It is all about perspective...

The fanboys will spin it like this - 'The map was covered by the first (Graphine) Invisible Cloth' like this: http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/building-invisible-materials-with-light

And the cynics like me will say - 'Well, at least the map is much clearer (and thought out ) than he profit generation scheme of PeerTracks.... "

Haven't seen you since October last year.

What do you think of BTS 2.0 & CNX? Are you buying BTS?
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