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General Discussion / Re: Peerplays Announcement - BTS Snapshot Date
« on: August 13, 2016, 02:36:00 am »
 How about sharedroping 1% to brownie.PTS?

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Totally support the idea of actively managing the reserve funds to increase bitAsset liquidity. Here is financial model which could work:

1. Create a worker which receives 100K BTS per day (or whatever voters decide).
2. The worker uses available funds to issue bitUSD and build a sell wall at call price up to 1K bitUSD. If the wall drops below 1K, issue more bitUSD to raise it back.
3. Use available funds to build a buy wall at feed price up to 1K bitUSD. If the wall drops below 1K, settle debt and raise it back.
4. Adjust bid/ask orders to match the current feed/call price hourly.
5. Adjust collateral ratio to safe level hourly.
6. Send unspent funds (if any) back to reserve every week.

If this works:
I Raise the walls to 10K bitUSD.
II Apply this scheme to other bitAssets.

Comments? Can this be automated?
support!

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中文 (Chinese) / 关于发起众筹DAC的提议
« on: July 29, 2016, 07:04:53 am »
在Bitshares's Evil Plan for Cryptocurrency World Domination一文中所提5条计划中,鉴于第一条动用储备实施难度大,短期无望,现提议先执行第二条计划,以BTS为货币众筹DAC。

众筹DAC的主要目的是集中分散的资金推动比特股的快速发展。DAC近期的首要任务是为BTS内盘市场提供流动性、同时在BTS过度低估时回购部分BTS。建议比特股理事会负责众筹,以智能币按月分红,初期为封闭式基金,条件成熟后再转为开放式基金。众筹完毕,DAC即可在内盘上市交易。

欢迎讨论。

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特股储备银行回购计划
« on: July 28, 2016, 01:35:49 pm »
     问题是初始的12亿从哪里来呢

一直锁着,worker的工资就从里面出

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特股储备银行回购计划
« on: July 28, 2016, 06:19:17 am »

委婉起见,做了相应修改,题目改为:比特股储备银行回购计划,并发起英文投票贴

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22928.msg296997/topicseen.html#msg296997

https://steemit.com/bitshares/@tianlai/bitshares-reserve-bank-s-repurchase-plan

比特股储备银行回购计划

Description: the proposed plan is the repurchase program in the case of BTS’s value incredibly undervalued. If the plan is implemented as expected, in the first repurchase period,the price of BTS will rise from 0.04bitCNY to 0.32bitCNY, 1.2 billion reserve BTS repurchase 0.7 billion BTS, control 51% of total BTS; in the second repurchase period,the price of BTS will rise from 0.32bitCNY to 2.56bitCNY, 1.9 billion reserve BTS repurchase 0.7-0.9billion BTS, control 70-76% of total BTS. This is BTS concentration process, the value return process, also largest benefit and least risk process, the bitshares community should seize the opportunity.


说明:本文所提计划是在bts被市场过度低估情况下,比特股采取的回购计划。如计划按预期实施,第一阶段回购,12亿储备股份回购7亿,控制51%的股份;第二阶段回购,19亿储备股份回购7-9亿,控制70-76%的股份。这是一个筹码集中、价值回归的过程,也是受益最大、风险最小的过程,比特股社区理应抓住这个机会。


养兵千日用兵一时,是时候了!

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General Discussion / Bitshares Reserve Bank’s Repurchase Plan
« on: July 28, 2016, 05:05:04 am »
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@tianlai/bitshares-reserve-bank-s-repurchase-plan

Description: the proposed plan is the repurchase program in the case of BTS’s value incredibly undervalued. If the plan is implemented as expected, in the first repurchase period,the price of BTS will rise from 0.04bitCNY to 0.32bitCNY, 1.2 billion reserve BTS repurchase 0.7 billion BTS, control 51% of total BTS; in the second repurchase period,the price of BTS will rise from 0.32bitCNY to 2.56bitCNY, 1.9 billion reserve BTS repurchase 0.7-0.9billion BTS, control 70-76% of total BTS. This is BTS concentration process, the value return process, also largest benefit and least risk process, the bitshares community should seize the opportunity.

Idea that moment on use of troops, it is time.

Basis: Steem Reserve Bank’s actual and successful drainage increased the market value of Steem a dozen times in a short time period, Steem’s inner market got leading pricing power and obtained the desired objective.


Approximate Calculation of Repurchase Effect

1, Calculation according to that the BTS price is 0.04CNY at the beginning of the plan . With the reserve of 1.2 billion BTS and collateral ratio 4, repurchase 0.3 billion BTS equivalent monetary 0.012billion bitCNY, continuously eat BTS at higher prices.Suppose the process finished at BTS price doubled to 0.08bitCNY, average buying cost of BTS is 0.06bitCNY, totally buy in 0.2 billion BTS. At this point,

the initial: 1.2 billion BTS reserves, value 0.048 billion bitCNY
the end: collateral BTS 1.2 billion + BTS 0.2 billion, value 0.112 billion bitCNY
debt 0.012 billion bitCNY

2, and then collateral 1.4 billion BTS, collateral ratio 0.112/0.012=9.33. Reduce the collateral ratio to 4, repurchase 0.112/4=0.028 billion bitCNY.

3, repeat the first step. BTS price doubled to 0.16bitCNY, average buying cost of BTS is 0.12bitCNY, totally buy in 0.233 billion BTS.

The process is carried out continuously for 3 times, BTS price to 0.32bitCNY, a total of 0.105 billion bitCNY repurchase, buy in 0.7 billion bts.

4, At this point,

the initial: 1.2 billion BTS reserves, value 0.048 billion bitCNY
the end: Rights and interests
collateral BTS 1.633 billion + BTS 0.27 billion=1.9billion
(1.9/3.7=51%, value 0.608 billion bitCNY)
debt 0.105 billion bitCNY

No doubt no more need to say. After the start of the process, the short-term fluctuations in the bitCNY anchoring will be ignored! Anchoring will continue to be effective on a new and higher platform.


Plan Implementation Proposal

1, Release announcement on bitsharestalk and steem 1 weeks in advance.

2, the first stage repurchase 3 to 4 times, 1 to 2 weeks, BTS prices hit a record high.

3, Rest for 1 to 2 weeks, let the outer market fully changing hands, arrest public attention .

4, Implementing the second stage repurchase, BTS could be worth the value of ETH.

5, In order to buy in more BTS in low price, use all of the main inner markets at the same time.

Then bitshares successfully take off, next need to recuperate and build up strength. In a good ecological conditions, the bitshares ecological system will continually and quickly improve. This is the time to found DAC.

see: https://steemit.com/bitshares/@tianlai/bitshares-s-evil-plan-for-cryptocurrency-world-domination

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特股储备银行放水计划
« on: July 28, 2016, 02:49:26 am »
此时初始4800万价值的12亿bts储备变为:抵押bts12亿+流动bts2亿【价值=1.12亿bitCNY】,债务1200万bitCNY。

2、再将14亿bts全部抵押,此时抵押率为1.12/0.12=9.33倍。降低抵押率为4倍,可放水1.12/4=2800万。
1. 已经抵押的BTS在对应bitCNY债务没有结清前不能再用于抵押,所以绝不可能每次可抵押的BTS数量会上升。
2. 这实际类似于M0->M2,按抵押率4倍计算,如果忽略掉价格上升造成抵押物价值上涨的影响,大概可以造1200w/(1-q)=1200w*4/3=1600万bitCNY,考虑价格上升的因素,假设每次推动价格上升50%(实际由于金额快速下降不可能每次都有50%的推升,所以这实际是个很高的估计),大概相当于每次是上次q=1/4*1.5=3/8。1200w/(1-q)=1200w*8/5=1920w。总共能造1920w bitCNY。实际上具体数量并不重要,我们只需要知道这个会越来越少而不是无限的就行。
3. 从来玩钱本身是不会造成财富的增长的。由于这实际是个不断加杠杆的过程,去杠杆的过程会迅速而痛苦。而触发这个去杠杆的过程,只需要价格往下降那么一点点,甚至是上涨没有原来那么快了。那么问题来了,如果到时候触发降杠杆,过程中会产生亏损吗?会由谁来承担?以怎样的方式来承担呢?

首先关于亏损,抵押产生CNY本身应该是不会产生亏损的(按BTS计算),如果CNY持有在手上的话。亏损应该是产生于用CNY购买BTS的过程。因为整个过程中没有主动卖出BTS,只有去杠杆Margin Call会被动卖出BTS,而这时的价格是远远小于买入价格的(大概1/4)。所以整个亏损大概是12y BTS*3/4=9y BTS。如果只是把上述复杂的过程看作融资,简单来说,亏损就是来自于高价购买了BTS而最后被迫低价出售。因为虚高的价格并不能维持。再说白点,就相当于融资炒股坐庄嘛,炒高价格还不出货,就是个傻庄。

亏损会由所有BTS持有人承担,方式是增发。因为原本储备中的BTS亏损了3/4,亏损的BTS被发放出来了,实际效果是增发。

还有个有趣的问题,增发到底会以什么方式对谁增发?很简单,有高买低卖就有高卖低买的,那些人赚的BTS(或bitCNY对应的抵押BTS)就是储备中亏损而变相增发出来的BTS。



这个风险其实就在于价格到了一定的程度,大家会砸下来,并不能做到 “”6、放水过程启动后,务必只放水不抽水,勿忘该计划的终极目的是使比特股升空。“”
steem能拉上去的原因在于一两个人持有了99.5%左右的币,而bts却全在玩家手里

1, Calculation according to that the BTS price is 0.04CNY at the beginning of the plan . With the reserve of 1.2 billion BTS and collateral ration 4,drainage 0.3 billion BTS equivalent monetary 0.012billion bitCNY, continuously eat BTS at higher prices.Suppose the process finished at BTS price doubled to 0.08bitCNY, average buying cost of BTS is 0.06bitCNY, totally buy in 0.2 billion BTS. At this point,

the initial: 1.2 billion BTS reserves, value 0.048 billion bitCNY
the end: collateral BTS 1.2 billion + BTS 0.2 billion, value 0.112 billion bitCNY
debt 0.012 billion bitCNY

2, and then collateral 1.4 billion BTS, collateral ratio 0.112/0.012=9.33. Reduce the collateral ratio to 4, drainage 0.112/4=0.028 billion bitCNY.

3, repeat the first step. BTS price doubled to 0.16bitCNY, average buying cost of BTS is 0.12bitCNY, totally buy in 0.233 billion BTS.

The process is carried out continuously for 3 times, BTS price to 0.32bitCNY, a total of 0.105 billion bitCNY drainage, buy in 0.7 billion bts.

4, At this point,

the initial: 1.2 billion BTS reserves, value 0.048 billion bitCNY
the end: Rights and interests
collateral BTS 1.633 billion + BTS 0.27 billion=1.9billion
(1.9/3.7=51%, value 0.608 billion bitCNY)
debt 0.105 billion bitCNY

https://steemit.com/bitshares/@tianlai/bitshares-reserve-bank-s-drainage-plan

计划按预期实施,连续翻3次,12亿储备股份就控制了51%的股份,而这只是bts回归应该有的价格,并不高估。

这是一个筹码集中、价值回归的过程,也是受益最大、风险最小的过程。而steem现在所处位置正相反。

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特股储备银行放水计划
« on: July 28, 2016, 02:18:02 am »
此时初始4800万价值的12亿bts储备变为:抵押bts12亿+流动bts2亿【价值=1.12亿bitCNY】,债务1200万bitCNY。

2、再将14亿bts全部抵押,此时抵押率为1.12/0.12=9.33倍。降低抵押率为4倍,可放水1.12/4=2800万。
1. 已经抵押的BTS在对应bitCNY债务没有结清前不能再用于抵押,所以绝不可能每次可抵押的BTS数量会上升。
2. 这实际类似于M0->M2,按抵押率4倍计算,如果忽略掉价格上升造成抵押物价值上涨的影响,大概可以造1200w/(1-q)=1200w*4/3=1600万bitCNY,考虑价格上升的因素,假设每次推动价格上升50%(实际由于金额快速下降不可能每次都有50%的推升,所以这实际是个很高的估计),大概相当于每次是上次q=1/4*1.5=3/8。1200w/(1-q)=1200w*8/5=1920w。总共能造1920w bitCNY。实际上具体数量并不重要,我们只需要知道这个会越来越少而不是无限的就行。
3. 从来玩钱本身是不会造成财富的增长的。由于这实际是个不断加杠杆的过程,去杠杆的过程会迅速而痛苦。而触发这个去杠杆的过程,只需要价格往下降那么一点点,甚至是上涨没有原来那么快了。那么问题来了,如果到时候触发降杠杆,过程中会产生亏损吗?会由谁来承担?以怎样的方式来承担呢?

首先关于亏损,抵押产生CNY本身应该是不会产生亏损的(按BTS计算),如果CNY持有在手上的话。亏损应该是产生于用CNY购买BTS的过程。因为整个过程中没有主动卖出BTS,只有去杠杆Margin Call会被动卖出BTS,而这时的价格是远远小于买入价格的(大概1/4)。所以整个亏损大概是12y BTS*3/4=9y BTS。如果只是把上述复杂的过程看作融资,简单来说,亏损就是来自于高价购买了BTS而最后被迫低价出售。因为虚高的价格并不能维持。再说白点,就相当于融资炒股坐庄嘛,炒高价格还不出货,就是个傻庄。

亏损会由所有BTS持有人承担,方式是增发。因为原本储备中的BTS亏损了3/4,亏损的BTS被发放出来了,实际效果是增发。

还有个有趣的问题,增发到底会以什么方式对谁增发?很简单,有高买低卖就有高卖低买的,那些人赚的BTS(或bitCNY对应的抵押BTS)就是储备中亏损而变相增发出来的BTS。
1、现在的抵押规则是抵押率可以随时调高或调低,债务也可以随时调整,与bitCNY归还与否无关,只要抵押率不低于1.95。 本文为了测算方便,取了翻倍调整抵押率,实际执行时,保持抵押率不变,随bts价格升高,可以随时抵押出更多的bitCNY。

2、从计算可以看出,并没有加杠杆而是降杠杆,因为抵押率是随价格上升升高的,归结于bts价格的过度低估。如果价格高估,人为的加杠杆无疑风险巨大,这也是为什么这种方法使用不能过度。

3. 计划按预期实施,连续翻3次,12亿储备股份就控制了51%的股份,而这只是bts回归应该有的价格,并不高估。这是一个筹码集中、价值回归的过程,也是受益最大、风险最小的过程。

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Marketplace / Re: are Bitshares undervalued?
« on: July 27, 2016, 01:40:54 pm »
 +5%
I think it's properly valued for the reality of the ecosystem right now.

The potential is enormous though, so in that sense, for sure it's undervalued.

But we need to push the cart forward and make the possibilities come true.

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General Discussion / Bitshares Reserve Bank’s Drainage Plan
« on: July 27, 2016, 12:53:33 pm »
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@tianlai/bitshares-reserve-bank-s-drainage-plan# 


Idea that moment on use of troops, it is time.

Basis: Steem Reserve Bank’s actual and successful drainage increased the market value of Steem a dozen times in a short time period, Steem’s inner market got leading pricing power and obtained the desired objective.

Approximate Calculation of Drainage Effect

1, Calculation according to that the BTS price is 0.04CNY at the beginning of the plan . With the reserve of 1.2 billion BTS and collateral ration 4,drainage 0.3 billion BTS equivalent monetary 0.012billion bitCNY, continuously eat BTS at higher prices.Suppose the process finished at BTS price doubled to 0.08bitCNY, average buying cost of BTS is 0.06bitCNY, totally buy in 0.2 billion BTS. At this point,

the initial: 1.2 billion BTS reserves, value 0.048 billion bitCNY
the end: collateral BTS 1.2 billion + BTS 0.2 billion, value 0.112 billion bitCNY
debt 0.012 billion bitCNY

2, and then collateral 1.4 billion BTS, collateral ratio 0.112/0.012=9.33. Reduce the collateral ratio to 4, drainage 0.112/4=0.028 billion bitCNY.

3, repeat the first step. BTS price doubled to 0.16bitCNY, average buying cost of BTS is 0.12bitCNY, totally buy in 0.233 billion BTS.

The process is carried out continuously for 3 times, BTS price to 0.32bitCNY, a total of 0.105 billion bitCNY drainage, buy in 0.7 billion bts.

4, At this point,

the initial: 1.2 billion BTS reserves, value 0.048 billion bitCNY
the end: Rights and interests
collateral BTS 1.633 billion + BTS 0.27 billion=1.9billion
(1.9/3.7=51%, value 0.608 billion bitCNY)
debt 0.105 billion bitCNY

No doubt no more need to say. After the start of the process, the short-term fluctuations in the bitCNY anchoring will be ignored! Anchoring will continue to be effective on a new and higher platform.

Plan Implementation Proposal

1, Release announcement on bitsharestalk and steem 1 weeks in advance.

2, the first stage drainage 3 to 4 times, 1 to 2 weeks, BTS prices hit a record high.

3, Rest for 1 to 2 weeks, let the outer market fully changing hands, arrest public attention .

4, Implementing the second stage drainage, BTS could be worth the value of ETH.

5, In order to buy in more BTS in low price, use all of the main inner markets at the same time.

Then bitshares successfully take off, next need to recuperate and build up strength. In a good ecological conditions, the bitshares ecological system will continually and quickly improve. This is the time to found DAC.


see: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22914.msg296898.html#msg296898

Bitshares's Evil Plan for Cryptocurrency World Domination

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特股储备银行放水计划
« on: July 27, 2016, 01:08:06 am »
你这计划太大胆了!但如果锚定不成功,就没有人敢做承兑。BITCNY就类似于另一个发行的资产了。

steem已经实战过

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特股储备银行放水计划
« on: July 27, 2016, 12:23:54 am »

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中文 (Chinese) / 比特股储备银行回购计划
« on: July 27, 2016, 12:21:43 am »
委婉起见,做了相应修改,题目改为:比特股储备银行回购计划,并发起英文投票贴

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22928.msg296997/topicseen.html#msg296997

https://steemit.com/bitshares/@tianlai/bitshares-reserve-bank-s-repurchase-plan

比特股储备银行回购计划

Description: the proposed plan is the repurchase program in the case of BTS’s value incredibly undervalued. If the plan is implemented as expected, in the first repurchase period,the price of BTS will rise from 0.04bitCNY to 0.32bitCNY, 1.2 billion reserve BTS repurchase 0.7 billion BTS, control 51% of total BTS; in the second repurchase period,the price of BTS will rise from 0.32bitCNY to 2.56bitCNY, 1.9 billion reserve BTS repurchase 0.7-0.9billion BTS, control 70-76% of total BTS. This is BTS concentration process, the value return process, also largest benefit and least risk process, the bitshares community should seize the opportunity.


说明:本文所提计划是在bts被市场过度低估情况下,比特股采取的回购计划。如计划按预期实施,第一阶段回购,12亿储备股份回购7亿,控制51%的股份;第二阶段回购,19亿储备股份回购7-9亿,控制70-76%的股份。这是一个筹码集中、价值回归的过程,也是受益最大、风险最小的过程,比特股社区理应抓住这个机会。


养兵千日用兵一时,是时候了!

依据:steem储备银行放水实战在短期内使其市值增长数十倍,其内盘steem:SD(steemUSD)交易对成为steem定价主导市场,获得了预期的目的和初步成功。

放水效果大致测算:

1、按计划开始启动bts 4分价计算。以12亿bts储备按4倍抵押率回购3亿bts等值货币bitCNY1200万,内盘不断高价吃进bts,假设吃进完所有bitCNY,bts价格翻倍至8分,平均吃进成本6分,共吃进2亿bts。

此时初始4800万价值的12亿bts储备变为:抵押bts12亿+流动bts2亿【价值=1.12亿bitCNY】,债务1200万bitCNY。

2、再将14亿bts全部抵押,此时抵押率为1.12/0.12=9.33倍。降低抵押率为4倍,可放水1.12/4=2800万。

3、重复第一步。bts价格翻倍至16分,平均吃进成本12分,共吃进2.33亿bts。

从中可见,维持抵押率不变情况下,bts价格第2次翻倍过程中,回购可以吃进比第一次更多的bts。这个过程连续进行3次,bts价格到32分,总计提供流动性1.05亿bitCNY,回购7亿bts。

4、原始12亿bts储备变为:权益为16.33亿抵押的bts【抵押率16.33*0.32/1.05=5倍】+2.7亿流动bts【价值2.35亿bitCNY】,债务为1.05亿bitCNY。

不用再多说了吧。过程启动后,短期的bitCNY锚定波动不予理睬!锚定会在新的更高的平台上继续有效。

计划实施方案建议:

1、提前1周在bitsharestalk与steem公示。

2、第一次回购过程进行3至4次,1到2周时间,bts价格创出历史新高,解放所有套牢筹码!

3、休整1到2周,让市场充分换手,占领虚拟币圈内舆论阵地,以使圈内人士充分了解比特股。

4、休整完毕,再实施一次回购计划,至此bts市值可能与以太旗鼓相当。

5、为了在低价吃到更多的bts,比特股内盘几个市场可同时进行。

至此比特股顺利升空,接下来需要休养生息。在一个良好的生态条件下,比特股生态系统会不断快速完善。此时就可以进行DAC的筹备工作,预期募集资金和dao等量齐观。

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