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General Discussion / Re: My Open Source Report Card...
« on: February 28, 2014, 08:20:58 pm »
 +5%

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BitShares PTS / Price
« on: February 28, 2014, 01:46:10 pm »
lol, bee watching the price drop wide eyed, people are so afraid that rather than chance it for after  the snapshot, they are selling high now.

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: February 28, 2014, 06:58:26 am »
Block Crawler

 BlockCrawler

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: February 28, 2014, 12:40:37 am »
I've been running the pts-getwork with miner.exe ptspool.conf for a couple days now, with R9 280x gpu, not a single block :( I was wondering if someone could tell me if I have the NoirShare.conf setup correctly for solo mining gpu.

rpcuser=xxxxxx
rpcpassword=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
rpctimeout=30
rpcport=18500
rpcallowip=localhost
gen=1
server=1

my ptspool.conf looks like this.
host=127.0.0.1
port=18500
rpcuser=xxxxxx
rpcpass=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
#Number of threads requesting work from the server in parallel
getwork_threads=8
submit_threads=8
OpenCL devices to run miner on
devices=0,1,2
platform=0
 
my understanding is that gen=1 is needed for mining.. But should it be zero since the miner.exe is externally mining?

NoirShares.conf
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rpctimeout=30
???? why???
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rpcallowip=localhost
i know its the same, but try using the actual ip
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submit_threads=8
try lowering this.

either way, is your GPU registering load when you start the miner?



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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: February 27, 2014, 02:23:20 pm »

If i focus on talking about reasons to hold, i'll never stop talking but get little done. I want to get some things done then talk a bit, then rush back to more development. The fall of PTS is not a good thing for Invictus. 

Fair enough.

By the way, I thought of a way you could have honored the 10% social consensus while avoiding the risk of a sell-off at the beginning: simply write PTS and AGS holders into the genesis block and make their NRS unspendable for a certain length of time. You could even unlock their NRS a little at a time; maybe as a fraction of the miners' block reward. Then PTS and AGS holders are all happy since they've been invited to the party, and you're happy because they can't sell everything off all at once. In fact, this creates a particularly interesting incentive for PTS/AGS holders to contribute value to your venture, because they know that they can't sell until some time in the future. Thus, they want the value of NRS at that future time to be as high as possible.

Just something to chew on, but I realize it's probably too late now. Now I'll quit distracting you. :) Thanks for your time!


+5%   just like the original ethereum IPO

It will take some code vodoo, but it's doable. But for the most part such advice could be placed in a how to for DACs. I wrote the one for genesis blocks, but i think a more in depth one based on my experiences and the advice i get may be required as a primer for future aspiring DACs

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: February 26, 2014, 10:44:31 pm »

Quote from: biophil
I'm really not trying to be rude, but here's my take on this whole NIG thing so far: your fears that PTS holders will sell their NRS at their first opportunity are justified by the fact that you're not inspiring confidence in us!

If III does not step in to stabilize the price, it'll drop a lot after the snapshot....maybe then we can talk about PTS holder confidence

The price (of PTS) will drop after Feb 28 precisely because III has convinced people that BitShares X will have value. That is, the drop in price of PTS will be a perfect example of PTS holder confidence in Invictus! The drop in price will precisely reflect the confidence that PTS holders have in BitShares X.

Anyway, I'm not trying to tell you what to do with NRS; obviously that's your prerogative. I wish your venture well whether I'm a part of it or not. I'm just bewildered by your implicit assumption that it's somehow not your responsibility to convince owners of NRS to hold instead of to sell.

If i focus on talking about reasons to hold, i'll never stop talking but get little done. I want to get some things done then talk a bit, then rush back to more development. The fall of PTS is not a good thing for Invictus. 

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: February 26, 2014, 10:05:04 pm »
I think the questions we're curious about (that nobody is answering directly) are:

1. Right now (not at some future date), can I import a PTS private key and claim NRS? I.e., am I currently entitled to some NRS?
2. If the answer to question (1) is "yes," then how do I import said PTS private key?

Thanks.

me too, i'm curious, when you have said NRS, what will you do with them?

I'll keep them safe and sound in my wallet as long as I believe that the NIG offers me more value for holding them than I'd get for selling them...

See, I can be vague and evasive too  ;)

I'm really not trying to be rude, but here's my take on this whole NIG thing so far: your fears that PTS holders will sell their NRS at their first opportunity are justified by the fact that you're not inspiring confidence in us!

You seem to be a respected, hard-working, sincere member of the community, so I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. But you seem to be missing the fact that PTS holders are the least likely to dump shares in a promising venture; we are the buy-and-holders of the crypto community who believe in things like the long-term value of DACs. If PTS holders dump your shares, it's because your business plan is this vague "hey we're going to launch stuff and there will be investment options" thing. Make us a real value proposition, and you won't have anything to worry about!

Now, having ranted a bit, I will say that NRS has clearly made progress over the past few weeks (exhibit 1: there's a windows qt that I don't have to compile from source!), and your business plan document does say something about how the NIG is structured...

So, here's my direct answer to your question: I won't participate in any market landslides by selling my NRS. That is, I might sell them, but only after the value has skyrocketed or after I've given up hope that there will ever be any value.

you'll notice i have not opened those options to anyone, as of yet. Investors will put a lot of trust and funds in my hands and i'd like to show them that we know what we are doing. Right now structuring and creating adequate balances and checks is important to ensure that no investor or developer or god forbid I can abuse the system. What do you term a "real value proposition" ? in my opinion, i have my an invitation and made my intentions clear, from here "value" is what you perceive it to be.   

NIG will develop and grow at a modest pace, even once we open the investment options we will always take careful steps, this is new territory and so 'd like to do thinks right.

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I'm really not trying to be rude, but here's my take on this whole NIG thing so far: your fears that PTS holders will sell their NRS at their first opportunity are justified by the fact that you're not inspiring confidence in us!

If III does not step in to stabilize the price, it'll drop a lot after the snapshot....maybe then we can talk about PTS holder confidence

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: February 26, 2014, 08:26:51 pm »
I think the questions we're curious about (that nobody is answering directly) are:

1. Right now (not at some future date), can I import a PTS private key and claim NRS? I.e., am I currently entitled to some NRS?
2. If the answer to question (1) is "yes," then how do I import said PTS private key?

Thanks.

me too, i'm curious, when you have said NRS, what will you do with them?

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: February 26, 2014, 08:23:23 pm »
I tried importing my private PTS  address and got this error

Invalid private key (code -5)

git pull

make

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: February 26, 2014, 07:26:30 pm »
Maybe I missed it, could you please rephrase the details about pts sharesholding:
 - how many nrs do I get for 1pts
 - how was it achieved as chain is already out and running
 - at which block did that happen?

Thanks

You havent missed a thing unless you don't have any NRS at all.

you are right, the chain was already active by the time i figured out how to include balances. it has been suggested that a hard fork be implemented  at block 6000 to make it easy, but i am reluctant to endanger the functional chain in such a manner. We have considered system that will allow us to confirm the owners of addresses. while more complicated, it is the most sure fire way of ensuring fair allocation. If implemented immediately, i could even give 10%. It's long and taxing on me to do it that way, but it is the most feasible non-destructive way to do so. 

we have an existing snapshot with the balances and addresses, so at the opening of the investment options, we will publish a PTS address, every person whose address is in the snapshot and wishes to have NRS will send the bare minimum tx with their NRS address in the comment. this ensures easy verification that your address is in the list and what your NRS address is.

There are exactly 13105 addresses with balances greater than or equal to one, and a total of 46884 addresses with non zero balances. As you can see, even if only 1/10 of the community verifies, it's still a mammoth task. even the tx fees i will pay will be in the hundreds.

Do you think it's worth the hassle or should i just leave it as a bad job? I would allocate 24 - 36 hours to spend on this exercise.

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: February 26, 2014, 10:57:58 am »
Sorry if this is obvious and somehow I missed it... But I think I've gathered that it's possible to import a PTS private key and claim NRS from the latest snapshot.

Is this true?

If so, is it easy to do?

My definition of easy:
1) download windows wallet.
2) muck around in debug.
3) be NRS owner.

Hopefully other people are confused like me  :)

My NRS addy: 9h9hHA4hqhzDkeq6VQQoScbtUCuxP4cPbt (I think? I'm using the windows qt that someone posted earlier)

is that the one you got after importing your PTS private key?

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: February 25, 2014, 03:02:24 pm »
hello barwizi,
what actually are the products that noirbits will give us a stake in? Do you have specified this somewhere? What services will the DAC you develope provide? (for example btc can be used for payment processing and money transmittence etc)
Also, will you operate under a legal entity (brick and morter company) and will you unveal your identity?
Will you have a team?
What is the roadmap? And roughly when will what happen (outcomming DACs etc.)?

hello

it's NIG, noirbits is a currency. Your investment in a venture entitles you to dividends. rather than the DAC concept used by III, all ventures under NIG belong to the respective investors. Rather than innumerable blockchains we will maintain a maximum of three. NRB/NRS and one more that is still far far far from ever being implemented because it is still a concept. We work by pooling the investments and embarking on business ventures, the profits of which are paid either monthly or per quarter based on the business model of each venture. For example, an active exchange should pay out monthly, whereas a crypto development venture will likely pay out every few months .

Please read the following documents

:- NIG definition https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxCtiOzdwvPycU12eWh3Q0Z0R0E/edit?usp=sharing

Investment Options and how they work :- https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxCtiOzdwvPycU12eWh3Q0Z0R0E/edit?usp=sharing

The team is currently very small (4). but we will keep it this way until investors choose more permanent staff.

The current list of mile stones is as follows

  • Normalize Mining of NRS on all platforms
  • Develop an easy audit System for investor use
  • Development of the Trade platform
  • Development of NoirStore

Thanks!
That is twice the same document?
...so I i am dependend on the decisions of others what my money is specifically invested in?
...in the doc you say "look at the example venture". Where can I find that?
...do the venture ideas come from Noir stakeholders or from outside/3rd parties?
reagrds

sorry i'll link the other one that answers your question.  :-https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxCtiOzdwvPyaTlDZmxDZHd2SWs/edit?usp=sharing

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.so I i am dependend on the decisions of others what my money is specifically invested in?

With the options available, you chose how your money is used, either for specific ventures or in a general fund that gets you a piece of everything.
 
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in the doc you say "look at the example venture". Where can I find that?

The example venture is actually NoirEx and due to recent developments lol (gox) we are re-writing some of the policies, I will publish it once i get a bit more legal advice. We are trying to think of ways to assure clients and investors alike that business will be conducted in a professional manner with balances and checks in effect at all times and all levels.

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do the venture ideas come from Noir stakeholders or from outside/3rd parties?

All venture ideas post NoirStore may only be submitted by shareholders. Once share holders agree on which venture to execute then a mandate is passed for research, development and deployment. The dev teams only start work after approval by shareholders.


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A transaction need not have the proper hash to be included..., but if it does have the proper hash then the coindays destroyed count toward the block.

you want it to calculate coindays destroyed per transaction and use that to factor in as stake?

so if a tx destroys 1000 coin days, the PoW block gets an extra small % in coin representing the TaPoS?


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Technical Support / Re: problem
« on: February 25, 2014, 09:03:21 am »
thanks guys
my wallet is up now.but the sync with network takes along
how long should take normally?

with high bandwidth it should take less than twenty minutes from start

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General Discussion / Re: NoirShares Launch in 8 hours, don't panic.
« on: February 25, 2014, 12:19:40 am »
This :-https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AncVNgrvz6hQdG9tRXk1aE5sWVB3UElEZjAtZGRpLXc&usp=sharing#gid=0

and this :-

Code: [Select]
{
"blocks" : 4455,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00003045,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespermin" : "No information yet. Wait at least 4 minutes after starting mining for estimate.",
"networkhashps" : 536,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

show a lot of promise

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