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中文(Chinese) / Re: BTS下一个版本修改点征集
« on: March 29, 2019, 02:13:29 pm »
我刚刚用了投票功能,发现用起来不是很顺手,主要有几个点希望可以考虑:

1. 大部分的时候我会想要设置代理,而我的钱包里面有十几个帐号,这时候我得一个一个切换然后设置,难道不应该要有个批量设置的方式吗? 很多软件应该都有类似的"应用到全部"或是"应用到选取的帐户"之类的八

2. 虽然我设置的代理,但有些个别的提案我有不同的意见,这时候我想要只针对这个案子有自己的意见,却发现我必须要取消掉代理。应该要可以让我在设置代理的情况下对个别的提案做自己的选择。

话说回来我觉得目前的比特股能够这样投票已经很难得了,甚至是一大亮点,但如果在使用上能够更亲民一些相信使用率会更高的,也会值得在界面上放在更显著的位置。

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https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/2508

Is fixed, and will be live on develop today

thanks. Looking forward to the new release.

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1. When the BTS gui wallet is in English, all trading pairs show correctly
2. When the BTS gui wallet is in Chinese, selecting trading pairs including any OPEN.xxx results in blank screen

I made a demonstration video here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v5GxV85YruofyJTYKZATbhHIiaoDRIGI/view?usp=sharing

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问题:
我认為目前的进展处于缓慢的步调是因為社区无法有效的凝聚共识

原因:
原因有很多,我尝试列举如下:
1. 最早期凝聚共识很快,但明显不是因為那时有良好的讨论机制,而是那时候一切都严重依赖BM,基本上BM发了什么点子下面就是一片叫好声音,后来BM离开了,问题就浮现了,我认為后来的问题恰恰是这时埋下的祸根。
2. 比如说我们现在这个论坛还有steem,形式明显适合聊天不适合议题的讨论以及汇整,你发了文大家在下面+5%或是在steem上面赚钱什么的,有助于议题的结论突显出来吗
3. 还有我记得当初bitsapphire还是谁不是说要改进论坛,现在不都还跟以前一样?
4. 还有从以前到现在,在中文区或是其他非英文区讨论的,可能已经凝聚了大量的共识,最后转发到英文区,很可能扯你几句话就没下文了,这样的模式不能够再改进了吗?識,最後轉發到英文區,很可能扯你幾句話就沒下文了,這樣的模式不能夠再改進了嗎?

改进措施
1. 改进措施当然不是找回BM或是再找一个人让他担任最大的决策者,相反的是要有这样的觉悟: 现任者可能不会喜欢凝聚共识,而是喜欢做自己想做的事情,或者不用作任何事情就有收入那或许对某些人来说也很好
2. 我们需要一个不聊天,专门讨论议题,凝聚共识的地方,姑且称作"议会"。并且也应该具备议会的几个特征:
2.1 选票最大,不管是谁提出的意见,能够获得多数人的支持,就应该获得实践,反过来就不应该。
2.2 单一页面,单一投票: 同一个议题只应该有一个页面,大家在同一个页面发声投票,提案者要设法争取最多人来支持自己的提案,也可以找人翻译
2.3举例来说,我想像一个提案页面可以是这样子的layout:

2.4 当然layout其实不是作重要的,重要的是可以凝聚共识,并且获得开发者的实践

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Maybe the multiplesignature feature of bts can be packed into a decentralized 2-FA app, and, once paired, this app can be used  for bts wallet (login and transaction (of amount > threshold) ) and potentially for external usage. The 2FA scenario is familiar and easy enough for non-tech people to provide security.

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hmm... sorry for that bad advise I proposed that could not help the bitcrab's situation as yvv said, but I am also wondering how multisignature can help secure bts wallet in this bot scenario, and how it can be improved for non-tech people. I also doubt if a hardware wallet like trezor can help in such bot situation.  Or else, what is the correct way using a bot to ensure security?

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As many of you may have known, that recently bitcrab lost a significant (to me) amount of assets, and similar events happened once in a while.  In wechat group, we discussed a lot of potential solutions (e.g., buy a mac, install Linux in a virtual machine or not, use and change strong passwords regularly). But even as a Linux user, I realize that we need a simple, feasible solution for all platforms including Windows to make bts popular.

Then it comes to me to realize that even telegram is currently more secure than bts wallet; to log in, telegram ask confirmation from a second device, but once your desktop is compromised your balance in bts wallet could return to zero in late midnight.

I think we urgently need some way to secure our bts wallet.  At least, we can imply just what telegram, as a non-profit service, do to introduce confirmation from a second device for login and transaction.  If a decentralized solution is not yet possible, I think it is fine for me to use a centralized service to do this to secure my wallet (but not google's 2FA since it is not accessible from China) for now.

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谢谢你,可是我没有找到设置交易市场白名单或黑名单的地方啊

这裡有文件,他提供的是命令端的方式,你也可以在钱包裡面打开命令端来执行相关命令:
http://docs.bitshares.eu/integration/market-whitelist.html


例如如果你的LZKGF要设置成只能跟LZKJF交易,那应该是下这个命令:
Code: [Select]
update_asset LZKGF "" "{whitelist_markets:[LZKJF]}" true

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You can whitelist or blacklist markets for your asset. In your case, you'd have to add LZKJF to the whitelist of LZKGF.

But this way you cannot prevent that people trade or otherwise exchange LZKGF off-chain.

Edit: try it on testnet first: http://testnet.bitshares.eu/

Thanks a lot! I have translated this back to the original post:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,24626.msg309023.html#msg309023

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来自开发者pc的回覆在这里,你的要求是可以达成的:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,24636.msg309021.html#msg309021

他的意思是这样的:
比特股可以让你对资产可以交易的市场设置白名单(只有名单上的市场可以交易,其他市场都不能交易)或黑名单(只有名单上面的市场不能交易,其他都可以交易)。以你的需求来说,你可以对股份资产LZKGF设置白名单,里面只放积分资产LZKJF,这样就只有LZKJF可以买LZKGF。

最后他建议你先在测试链上面做一次看看(http://testnet.bitshares.eu/)

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我公司的项目:借书人,是一个图书共享平台,在比特股上发行了量子积分(LZKJF)和量子股份(LZKGF)两个资产
 
借书人是一家网络图书馆,目前已有3万多用户,关注“借书人”微信公众号(APP在开发中),即可了解项目详情或下单借书,全国送书上门, 不限时不限量借阅图书。借书人要重新定义图书馆,让每个家庭都轻松拥有一个装满300本书的书架,每个书架都能过借书人平台实现共享互联,用户之间可自由方便的相互借阅图书。

量子积分(代码LZKJF)是只能在借书人平台内流通和使用的虚拟资产,可代替人民币支付借书服务费等费用和押金,也可以在比特股兑换成人民币,还可以直接在比特股购买量子股份(代码LZKGF)
量子股份是借书人项目的股权,总量共计1亿股。

我们想量子股份只能用量子积分进行兑换交易,不能用人民币或其他币种直接购买,想购买量子股份,只能在比特股平台向其它用户购买量子积分。不知道如何做,在比特股平台好像任何两种币之前都可以交易,不知道比特股有没有限制币种的功能。

量子积分的产生目前有三种:一是客户在借书人平台的资金余额(包括押金和可用余额),每天每100元可以产生1个量子积分;二是公司员工(包括兼职员工)的工资及奖励,将以量子积分支付(目前暂时只支付兼职员工工资和部分全职员工工资);三是关注借书人的活动并积极参与,借书说订阅号的投稿、借书人公众号菜单里的闲来分类等(如果现在还没有您喜欢的活动,也请放心,之后还会有更多活动的)。这些方式获取的积分也更快更多。总之,只要用心关注借书人的发展,能积极参与,就能得到更多的积分。
所以,量子积分的发行数量会随着公司规模的发展逐渐增加。我们锚定一个量子积分的价值是1分钱人民币,但会随着供求关系上下波动。


我也不知道怎么做, 但是我把你的文章翻译了,看看英文区的能提供什么解答:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,24636.new.html#new

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Cover letter:
The following article is translated from the Chinese board (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,24626.0.html). The original author, jieshuren, is a founder of his company 'the book borrower'. He is issuing 2 assets on bitshares: LZKJF as a rewarding point and LZKGF as a share. For his business model, he wants to limit LZKGF (the share) to be only buyable with LZKJF (the rewarding point), while LZKJF is not limited so and pegged to 1 CNY. He does not know how to set rules to LZKGF (the share) to be only buyable with LZKJF (the rewarding point) (neither do I), so he is asking for help.

I doubt if the current bitshares system can do that, but I think this could be a good chance to make bitshares great for broader business models via helping him out.


Title: I issued 2 assets for my company. How do I make one of them to be only buyable with the other one?

One project of my company called 'The book borrower' is a platform for sharing books.I issued 2 assets for it, namely LZKJF as a rewarding point and LZKGF as a share.

The book borrower is a internet library, currently with 30k+ users. You can subscribe to the public wechat account 'the book borrower' and make a borrow or query informations.  The book borrower has redefined library, let every family can easily have a bookshelf with more than 300 books, and users can share with each others effortlessly.

The rewarding point LZKJF should only be used inside our platform to pay fees in the same rate of CNY. The rewarding point LZKJF can also be traded with any assets or used to buy the share LZKGF inside bitshares. But I don't know how to make this happen, since the bitshares would allow trade between any two assets. I wonder if I can set such rules.

The generation of the rewarding point LZKJF could be anyone of the following three:
1. The balance of a user deposited in our platform (1 per 100 per day)
2. To pay the employee as salary
3. Participating our future activities

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Setup a backup pool to act as collateral to rescue those not-sufficiently backed MPA out.

Yes, that's a good simplified summary. :-)

Thank you for your reply. After discussion with others who also read the BSIP0018, we raised some further concerns:

Who is going to pay to make the settlement fund BACK reach the minimum required collateral? Because it should not be the responsibility of every bts holders to rescue a specific bad MPA. The exchange sould not rescue a bad asset, they should let bad assets die out and good assets survive.

Or else, is this proposal really going to cover the above issue or just to provide a methodology (and leave this issue to be determined case by case)? This could be better IMO. I mean, each case could differ vastly. For example, if one MPA has vary little trading volume, I prefer to stop this MPA, restart a new one after coming up with a better plan.

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I am afraid that I am confused with those financial terms, but I want to ask if I can summarize this proposal as the following:
Setup a backup pool to act as collateral to rescue those not-sufficiently backed MPA out.

Or please could you give me a take home message without those terms?
Thank you

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中文(Chinese) / Re: Smartcoins Wallet
« on: July 14, 2016, 04:41:55 am »
[member=30868]kenCode[/member]
FYI, all google services are banned in china, so most Chinese cannot download your wallet from google play store.
You should upload the .apk file to Dropbox and provide the link.

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