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中文 (Chinese) / Re: LET'S VOTE DOWN *.dacwin
« on: April 19, 2015, 05:27:19 am »
hi everyone, we've fixed problem, .dacwin starts to producing blocks now. We apologize for this accident, will be much more careful in future.
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BM, you really should think about the Merge thing again.
The future of DAC ( including DNS/Vote etc) and BTS might all go to hell becuase your wrong decision.
You will lost Chinese community support in the future except someone who hold a lot of BTS and Agser before 2.28.
Wake up!
2 billion bts * (1+20%) = 2.4 billion. 2.4 billion * 10% / 365 = 657,534 bts
That makes about 650,000 bts a day. To me, this has much much bigger impact than PTS, AGS, DNS merge.
Well, btc currently has about 10% dilution but it's also decreasing along the time.
If we have to pay high to delegates at the moment, at least we should decrease the rate along the time.
That is the limit.. no one will be voted in anywhere near that.
The overall announcement was very positive. Overstock is laying the technical requirements for a crypto-system and the work they are doing will pave the way for all of the competitors.
The fact that they went with counter party means they are dead in the water and will eventually have to migrate to a different foundation. Why did they go with counter party?
1) They cannot see any other crypto unseating Bitcoin is the digital currency of choice
2) They wanted to securely trade against Bitcoin
3) Their team was available for a buyout.
Our entire focus of this conference was that Bitcoins real competitor is BitUSD and the fact that BitUSD can be marketed to the masses where as Bitcoin never will be. By the time Overstock actually releases a crypto-equity BitUSD will have a significant presence in the market. Traders are going to demand trading against BitUSD and eventually Ovestock will want to list their stock on an exchange that can trade against real currencies.
So this is good for us, they chose a competitor that isn't a threat. Had the chosen Nxt then I would have been more concerned. They chose a competitor that will be too SLOW for real trading and too expensive and uncertain.
Their roadmap must include issuing trust-based USD assets on counter party. Counter party does have "contract for difference" with "price feeds" and thus does provide some hedging options. It will be interesting.
The BTSX wallet has been built quickly and has not been optimized. The slowness you see today can be greatly accelerated with a few optimizations to how things are cached on the Javascript side.
I am relieved that we can focus on BitUSD because it is clear that Overstock is now committed very strongly to Counter Party at this point. This is a "war" and this battle just shows that most people do not yet get BitUSD... but they will soon enough.
Go for it then, the OP is telling the people who keep insisting it needs a DPOS upgrade how to get started.
Maybe you can beat them to it as a user issued asset, or duke it out in this thread.
It would be really great to get all of the balances in the BitShares X blockchain at once though, say during one of the future hard forks. If that is not possible, then I guess people will have to donate some BTSX to pay for all the transaction fees necessary and quickly transfer all of the issued assets (I am going to name them PROTO in this post) to the appropriate addresses. Then trusted members of the community would have to look through the unspent transaction outputs to ensure they comply with the snapshots (or just have someone really trusted by the community, like toast or bytemaster, do the asset distribution in the first place). And only after the green light has been given by these trusted members would it be safe to start trading the PROTO assets on the BitShares X decentralized exchange. During this whole process from PTS snapshot until the green light has been given, all PTS trades everywhere would have to stop. After a successful transition PTS would become worthless (centralized exchanges can get rid of it, although the nice exchanges would credit people with PROTO IOUs just like they credited BTSX IOUs, and all PTS mining would stop for good).
So, who wants to help make this possible?
Edit: Also, PTS supply would be scaled up to 2 million in the snapshot for a total PROTO asset supply of 4 million (AGS + scaled PTS). Or rather, scale to something a tiny bit smaller than 2 million with the rest given to the PROTO asset issuer in order to repay the people who donated the BTSX to cover the fees of this process.
I would also restrict the currency for betting to BitUSD on your network.... this will drive demand for BitUSD
Having BitAssets on different blockchains and using atomic cross-chain trading is the brilliant solution to blockchain scalability. The alternative is to have everything on a single blockchain (Ethereum style) and burden everyone with validation costs for every single DAC idea people come up with. That just doesn't scale well. While trading BitAssets does not allow for communicating other types of useful information between independent blockchains, it does allow communicating value transfer, which I would say is the most important information for DACs.
There is still a strong network effect promoting people to keep most of their money in one chain (BitShares X). Cross-chain trading is inconvenient. People want to be able to have the money ready to go if they need to spend it for some good/service. So keeping most BitUSD (and other BitAssets) on BitShares X means that a consumer can easily pay a merchant for a good/service, and that merchant can later use that money to pay their workers and other expenses. If everyone is on the same chain, people do not need to bother with cross-chain trading which may cost them some small fees to carry out the trade. My guess is that BitShares X will keep the BitAssets meant for spending on "real world" goods/services, while BitAssets on other DACs will be kept only to pay for that DAC's "digital" services. This way DACs would all accept the BitAssets on their own blockchain for payment of services (they have to), but everyone else in the real world would still accept the BitShares X BitAssets for payment (so there shouldn't be any confusion).
If every DAC can have their own bitUSD, how is BitSharesX exchange better than other DAC?
Network effect. In theory we could have a BitShares X clone for every city. This splits the market cap over many different DACs rather than unifying it into one (BTSX). While that does make things more scalable, it is also very annoying. Someone might keep most of their wealth in their home city DAC, get paid a salary in their workplace city DAC, and if they are visiting a neighboring city they need to move their money from the other DACs into yet another DAC to pay the merchant in the neighboring city. Moving money from one DAC to another using cross-chain trading is inconvenient and could even add up in costs. For convenience, people will tend to centralize to one particular DAC if it can handle the transaction volume. BitShares X (by virtue of being the first DAC designed for that purpose) can be that one DAC we all congregate around. Once the network effect is built around it (merchants set up the BTSX client software to receive payments, employers set up the BTSX client software to pay workers, people install the BTSX client software and amass their savings on the BTSX DAC) it will be too difficult for just another clone DAC to take away that spot from BTSX.