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General Discussion / Re: Damage control advice needed
« on: November 04, 2015, 08:43:02 pm »
You know what?

I just realized that if I did sell it would be a panic sell.

I made a wrong trading decision.

But if this is it, if BTC truly truly goes to the moon, it will drag a lot of alts that I still hodl with it. I still have a tiny bit of btc too.

More important than that, this is probably not truly it! Bitcoin has always gone up and down. If it stays high for a while I'll just hodl what I have and keep buying BTS. I need to not try to play the short game. I'm terrible at it. I tried to do that here and lost. And long game everything about BTS makes sense to me.

In coming days I'll try to buy as much BTC as I have to top off my supply. But I don't know why I'm worried about it. If BTC goes to the moon so is crypto. If it doesn't that just means another chance to make up for it eventually.

Bitcoin cant go all the way to the moon in one rally, off a 2 year bear market.  Look at How long it took in 2012 to get going.  There will be pullbacks, and alts will recover.

When things go the other way, buy some BTCs with fiat so that you wont be completely out, and maybe sell a bit of bts if the rate become good again.  But not now while its true blood in the streets.  (For real this time!)

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: November 04, 2015, 08:41:08 pm »
"Help us DataSecurityNode    BunkerChainLabs, you're our only hope".


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So it looks like you turned on workers and its inflating again?  No wonder BTS is down :P

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What is the net change in bts supply since the 2.0 launch?

If this figure is nice it could be good to promote right now.

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General Discussion / Re: failcoins
« on: November 04, 2015, 07:14:54 pm »
Both of them are right at the 1 dollar peg.

Nubits has buywalls because the peg is enforced by a centralized entity.  BTS has a spread because the peg is driven by market forces.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: November 04, 2015, 06:55:49 pm »
As long as you havent been margin called and still hold your bts, do not despair.  Most alts got crushed hard by this btc rise, but things will recover.  Its not a bts only problem, its an altcoin problem.

If you got margin called my heart goes out to you, it happened to me years ago in the 2008 stock market crash and hurt really bad, but life does go on, eventually it wont hurt much, especially if you manage to make some good money on something again.

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General Discussion / Re: Damage control advice needed
« on: November 04, 2015, 06:47:01 pm »
I suck at trading. Lesson learned yet again.

Last night, shortly before falling asleep, I finally succeeded at importing my keys! I now have access to my entire balance of Bitshares. The problem was actually largely my own fault, the original reason for the delay, large keys not importing, was solved several days ago by enterprising forum members.

In the midst of my personal bias for BTS, the hype preceding 2.0 launch, and bitcoin stagnation, I figured a week or two before the launch it'd be a good idea to sell 50% of my bitcoin in BTS and hold to see if the launch increased the price.

See my quandry?

I now have more BTS than I should be comfortable with, less BTC than I should be comfortable with, and Bitcoin looks like it has left the short term launch pad without me. I would have balanced back out at the first sign of price increase by BTC backed with good news, but I didn't have access to my coin.

To be perfectly clear I'm not upset. I understood the risks. I don't blame anybody but myself on this.

But I need advice from better traders than me while I try to form a damage control strategy. My take on this is that the price is being pumped by the federal government due to impending silk road auction. this happened before the last auction too and the price tanked a few weeks afterwards.

If that happens again then my best strategy is patience until BTC price bottoms out again.


My advice:

1) Go on coinbase and buy a couple btc, so you have SOMETHING in case it goes truly, truly moon. 

2) Dont sell bts now.  This is truly blood in the streets time for most alts.  Probably btc will cool off at some points and alts will recover.  Then maybe sell a bit to get some btc back, if you still feel like it.

3) Dont do any margining at polo, its ruining everyone.


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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: November 04, 2015, 06:45:04 pm »
cagara: EtherWizard, as I have nothing left this cannot unveil any position of mine. Well I started with 960 BTC here, margin trading and BTS got my down to 11 BTC

Wow, either he's being a massive lying troll...or he's a truly shit trader who doesn't deserve to have that much money to begin with.

In his defense, if BTS hadn't just been a massive pump and dump around 2.0 and Devs had actually delivered one like.. ONE of their promises maybe price hadn't dropped 85%

Facts??

Wow is that real?  Cagara lost all his btc?

This is the guy who first was shorting BTS in the 2000s and made a ton when it went down, but then started longing it at like 1400.  I guess the extreme crashes we saw that liquidated people here were due to him getting liquidated and losing everything.  If what he said is true that is.


The price of my BTS might be utter shit, and I feel tremendous pain that I didnt go all into btc or at least half into btc when bts was at like 2500+, because then I would be doing just fine.  But at least I still have over 90% of my bts left, only losing a bit to trades.  And at least I have like 10 btc.

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General Discussion / Re: Damage control advice needed
« on: November 04, 2015, 06:40:14 pm »
Before you take my advice, consider that I have lost 80% of my bts in Polo margin long trading so apparently I am not the best person to advise you here..

How are you coping? I lost all there (my own fault) and I am unable to think straight. All I was thinking today was that if could have at least held onto 1 BTC instead of putting it in collateral I could have bought almost 200 000 BTS today which would have been something.

Bought millions with tens of BTCs earlier and now looking around and seeing not a single BTC left.

Well I don't really cope very well with this. I was ready to start massively promoting bts and now i can't see any reason why...On the other side I never had tens of BTCs and millions of BTS so I guess other people must feel more pain than me..The worst is the feeling that all these hopes and plans for the future look like they have gone to dust now and I am thinking that all this time I spent in this forum over the last 2 years for what??Nothing..So I am just sad..

If you massively promote BTS and get referrals, then those referrals will give you BTS, you can get back in the game.  Also the price of BTS is still .3-.4 cents, so you can always buy back in a bit with funds, even if small.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: November 03, 2015, 07:19:16 pm »
Now MAID is having the horrible day that we had yesterday.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: November 03, 2015, 07:43:12 am »
Also stop margining. :P

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: November 03, 2015, 07:40:56 am »
I got home and I see that I got BTS at 800 with BTC that I got for selling it at 1200 earlier.  What the hell you guys. 

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: November 03, 2015, 12:53:40 am »
graphene  2015 thinks the price is going down more.
What does that mean?

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General Discussion / Re: Lets talk about fees again
« on: November 03, 2015, 12:41:23 am »
Imo, the make order/cancelled order fee should be made as low as possible (only nonzero to prevent spam).  For ALL users, not just lifetime.

I disagree.

Why even have a lifetime membership option if everyone gets the perks?

Such perks are the reason to buy the lifetime membership.

It also says, "Hey BTS Community, I'm here to stay!".

Lifetime membership still gets 8% off transaction fees, order execution fees, and everything else.  Its still worth it for anyone who wants to trade a lot.

But we need a volume of traders to get liquidity going.  If the pain point for traders is paying a fee when they place but then cancel an order, lets remove that pain point.  When they are doing trading and moving BTS around it will still pay good fees and make BTS profitable.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: November 02, 2015, 11:52:28 pm »
Sometimes I imagine it in this (oversimplified and exaggerated) way...

  • There is a limited supply of BTS, held by a variety of people.
  • 90% of the supply is being HODLed, and would never be sold at silly prices such as those we are seeing currently.
  • 7% of the supply is being used by people internally for various purposes.
  • 3% of the supply is churning around being traded on external exchanges, bringing profit to some , and losses to others as it gets pumped and dumped. All the while the prices at which this 3% are being exchanged have been dropping.
  • This 3% of churning BTS started out at 40% of the supply, but has gradually been absorbed into the pockets of HODLers. Maybe in reality there is solid support building for BitShares, but it is being obscured by a small percentage of BTS cycling around between traders/poloniex 'margineers'/non-HODLers...

Does anyone think there could be elements of truth in this story?

If 90% is in the hands of hodlers, we are screwed

It seems like 10% is in the hands of hodlers, 10% is in the hands of devs and insiders who continually sells some to pay bills, and 80% is in the hands of whales who want out to get btc.

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