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General Discussion / the most important thing is get more wise vote proxy
« on: November 27, 2018, 03:55:34 am »
As we have seen, xeroc who is the bigest proxy with about 150 millions shares,
But he is very lack of trade acknowledge, and it's his blind that lead to this black swan event directely.
there are many changce that we can fix it before this happen, but he is always blind and do nothing to help.

so we all have learned that how important that we need more wise vote proxy.
I would ask @stan or any other share holders, remove xeroc as your proxy,
give the trust to others more wise  like @thul3 @pc

Quote from: alt on November 25, 2018, 05:35:35 am
Quote from: Thul3 on November 25, 2018, 12:10:20 am
BitUSD has arround 12 pm triggered global settlement.Borrowing no more possible.
I'm sorry to the people who lost money because of this event.


congrats @xeroc
               @bitcrab
               @still
               @abit

Who were the main supporters of BSIP42 even seeing that open margin calls are not being eaten.
They just watched from the side doing NOTHING to rescue that situation but instead celebrate that BSIP42 ,Witnesses and themself as proxies have not being downvoted much because of the global settlement event and even making fun that DEX had today the highest volume.


You guys are disgusting
They made way more disgusting comments but i will make an article about it to settle up their actions and of witnesses who screwed up totaly.
the other three support manipulation because they have heavy short position.
xeroc is the most stupid one, without any trader knowledge but gain too many support through the proxy.
It's very important that we need tell more people how stupid xeroc are, and should remove him from the vote proxy. or he will do more stupid things in the future.

by the way, do you have any idea why the witness give bitUSD's feed price to real price suddenly while keep bitCNY as before?
I have mentioned them should give a feed price higher than global settle price to give more time to eatern the margin call order, but again they screw up it.

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General Discussion / Did anybody notice that the network stop at UTC 22:00:00 ?
« on: November 26, 2018, 10:59:18 pm »
no block generate from the witness anymore,
what happend?

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General Discussion / I will vote for the first 9 witness who give the best feedprice
« on: November 26, 2018, 08:38:45 pm »
Quote from: alt on November 26, 2018, 07:28:29 pm
Quote from: abit on November 26, 2018, 06:09:26 pm
@alt if you really don't want bitcny to go GS (globally settle), you'd better vote for the witnesses who are feeding price higher than GS price, and don't vote for the witnesses who are feeding price lower than GS price. Of course, if you want GS, you can ignore this comment.

1. the best strategy is max(realprice, GS price)
2. the second is real price
3. the last is manupulation price
wirntess please give a feed price with strategy max(real price, GS price)
please leave your account name here if you agree and have done this.
I will vote for the first 9
others witness who still agree the BSIP 42 will never get my vote

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General Discussion / Re: please give a warning to all customers for the comming blackswan
« on: November 26, 2018, 07:28:29 pm »
Quote from: abit on November 26, 2018, 06:09:26 pm
@alt if you really don't want bitcny to go GS (globally settle), you'd better vote for the witnesses who are feeding price higher than GS price, and don't vote for the witnesses who are feeding price lower than GS price. Of course, if you want GS, you can ignore this comment.

1. the best strategy is max(realprice, GS price)
2. the second is real price
3. the last is manupulation price

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 【喂价讨论】动态调整最低抵押率要求和爆仓惩罚
« on: November 26, 2018, 11:47:18 am »
Quote from: abit on November 26, 2018, 11:35:39 am
Quote from: zwj17737161669 on November 26, 2018, 11:09:13 am
负反馈就是个坑，拉着所有人一起走向毁灭
从6元跌到0.7没有黑天鹅
从0.6到0.3黑了
没有听说过“最后一根稻草”么？怪稻草？
这不是一根稻草，是一把斧头
从6毛起，爆仓单一直提价10个点，20个点在卖，一直消化不掉积攒到现在要黑天鹅，还不承认是负反馈导致的。
到刚才为止还提高4个点在卖，自从黑天鹅风险这6天以来，买单一直在被消耗，但是爆仓单一直被高高挂着吃不到买单。

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General Discussion / Re: Global Settlement for BitUSD
« on: November 26, 2018, 10:42:29 am »
Quote from: bitcrab on November 26, 2018, 10:01:55 am
Quote from: alt on November 26, 2018, 09:08:33 am
nobody doubt you have do much for Bitshare,
but it can't change the fact that after BSIP42, witness manipulation the feed price, sell the margin call at unreasonable price which lead to this blackswan event directely.
even now, they still sell the margin call orders at 4.2% higher than market price.
witness should just give the real price, if 10% punish for margin call order is too much, change it to 5%, 3%, 1%, what ever, but must have a profit so others can help eat the margin call orders.
now people need to pay 4.2% to help eat it , it's unreasonable.

I am not showing what I do for BTS, I am just showing there is also big possibility for black swan even without BSIP42.

you guys don't care whether smartcoins peg well, whether there can be enough smartcoin supply, whether smartcoin can be widely adopted as good stable coin. that's why you do not understand why BSIP42 comes out.
yes there is always a posibility for black swan, but after change the margin call to only sell part of them, the posibility is very low already.
after BSIP42 begin, it's not a posibility, it's 100% percent for black swan because you guys want to sell margin call orders 5%, 10%, even 20% higher than market price.
it's rediculous to expect others help eat the margin call orders and pay more 5% percent.
 we always need to give a profit to others help get rid of the risk.

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General Discussion / Re: Global Settlement for BitUSD
« on: November 26, 2018, 09:08:33 am »
Quote from: bitcrab on November 26, 2018, 03:29:05 am
I always recollect this day clearly:



at the day in USD market the lowest price is about 7% close to global settlement price.



at the day the lowest price is 0.293USD, there is no BSIP42.
nobody doubt you have do much for Bitshare,
but it can't change the fact that after BSIP42, witness manipulation the feed price, sell the margin call at unreasonable price which lead to this blackswan event directely.
even now, they still sell the margin call orders at 4.2% higher than market price.
witness should just give the real price, if 10% punish for margin call order is too much, change it to 5%, 3%, 1%, what ever, but must have a profit so others can help eat the margin call orders.
now people need to pay 4.2% to help eat it , it's unreasonable.

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General Discussion / Re: Global Settlement for BitUSD
« on: November 26, 2018, 08:59:57 am »
too bad, do you have any ideas why have you banned from the github repo?

Quote from: spark on November 25, 2018, 10:09:56 pm
So I have just learned that I am blacklisted from the GitHub repo, I am not allowed to comment and not allowed to fork any code.

So of course I feel extremely uncomfortable even approxiamting my true feelings for bitshares here.

Black Swan bitUSD 2018

Did I decode the bs correctly? Should I worry?

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 【讨论】黑天鹅规则改进思路二：设置黑天鹅价为爆仓价下限
« on: November 25, 2018, 08:52:32 pm »
同意现在不适合黑天鹅，取max(真实价格，黑天鹅价格) 就可以了，还在继续幻想怎么操纵市场更安全，服了。
这个帖子里面一堆斯得歌尔摩

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General Discussion / Re: Global Settlement for BitUSD
« on: November 25, 2018, 05:35:35 am »
Quote from: Thul3 on November 25, 2018, 12:10:20 am
BitUSD has arround 12 pm triggered global settlement.Borrowing no more possible.
I'm sorry to the people who lost money because of this event.


congrats @xeroc
               @bitcrab
               @still
               @abit

Who were the main supporters of BSIP42 even seeing that open margin calls are not being eaten.
They just watched from the side doing NOTHING to rescue that situation but instead celebrate that BSIP42 ,Witnesses and themself as proxies have not being downvoted much because of the global settlement event and even making fun that DEX had today the highest volume.


You guys are disgusting
They made way more disgusting comments but i will make an article about it to settle up their actions and of witnesses who screwed up totaly.
the other three support manipulation because they have heavy short position.
xeroc is the most stupid one, without any trader knowledge but gain too many support through the proxy.
It's very important that we need tell more people how stupid xeroc are, and should remove him from the vote proxy. or he will do more stupid things in the future.

by the way, do you have any idea why the witness give bitUSD's feed price to real price suddenly while keep bitCNY as before?
I have mentioned them should give a feed price higher than global settle price to give more time to eatern the margin call order, but again they screw up it.

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General Discussion / Re: still no response from the witness? still execute stupid bsip42?
« on: November 24, 2018, 10:09:05 pm »
still no any react.
the price is only 0.315 CNY/BTS, but the feed price is 0.410.
there are plenty of buy orders had been eatern by normal sell order instead of buy the margin call order.

Quote from: alt on November 23, 2018, 08:45:59 pm
Quote from: alt on November 21, 2018, 07:55:46 pm
48 hours past, still no action.
we should remeber those person who still vote for support BSIP42
it's already 5 days later, where are all those witness and committee and delegate?
Does Bitshare already become somebody's private project?

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General Discussion / Re: please give a warning to all customers for the comming blackswan
« on: November 23, 2018, 10:44:07 pm »
Quote from: Thul3 on November 23, 2018, 10:00:46 pm
In my opinion
bitcny depending on some big bitcny holders if they get activ before gs or not.
in fact the basic principle to support  peg theory have already lost after the witness's behave these days.
we all known that the witness can give a feed whatever they want.
whatever the black swan happened or not, the peg have already lost trust with these delegate, witness and commiittee.

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General Discussion / please give a warning to all customers for the comming blackswan
« on: November 23, 2018, 09:07:48 pm »
depends on no any response from the wintess. all smart asset include bitCNY bitUSD faced a coming black swan, or in another words, the collabrary can't pay their debt, 1 bitUSD can't buy BTS as same as a real USD dollar.
you'd be better tell all the users include some exchange the potencial risk.
it's a unhonest behave if you continue to give bitUSD to others don't know the risk.
it's a unhonest behave to ask others adopt bitUSD as a stable peg asset.
it's even worst to give a bonus to encourage others adopt bitUSD.

if you are an honest man, please stop any marketing for smart asset.

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General Discussion / Re: still no response from the witness? still execute stupid bsip42?
« on: November 23, 2018, 08:45:59 pm »
Quote from: alt on November 21, 2018, 07:55:46 pm
48 hours past, still no action.
we should remeber those person who still vote for support BSIP42
it's already 5 days later, where are all those witness and committee and delegate?
Does Bitshare already become somebody's private project?

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 【喂价讨论】动态调整最低抵押率要求和爆仓惩罚
« on: November 23, 2018, 05:30:10 am »
Quote from: ryh on November 23, 2018, 05:22:15 am
Quote from: alt on November 23, 2018, 05:17:00 am
Quote from: lovegan007 on November 23, 2018, 04:30:19 am
Quote from: alt on November 23, 2018, 04:01:36 am
见证人无声的对抗已经很明白了，还钱是不可能的，爆仓是不可能的。就这么个无赖系统还在搞悬赏上币，把bitCNY卖出去又能坑人一把，最后BTS社区背黑锅。

Quote from: ryh on November 23, 2018, 02:30:51 am
现在的喂价真是服气，btc拉盘跟着拉，btc砸盘不动，造成爆仓成交不了就不说了，还搞的一堆人贴线抵押提现，爆仓不断增加，现在1bitcny可以抵押出0.7bitcny…贴线提现能把系统玩残，反正挂着不会成交…

无限下跌暴仓对谁都没有好处，对抄底的，对持BTS的都没有好处，对BTS的发展更是打击。就算是对持有BITCNY的人也是没有好处，BTS不停跌，造成用户量越来越少，BITCNY给谁用？什么事情都是越死就越快死的，越差就 越没人气的，要想BITCNY能发扬光大，就必须搞好BTS。整个市场都是，随处可见，涨的始终是越来越涨，人气越来越多，跌的都是越跌越死，像什么GRAM CDC　ACT啊什么的一路跌一路死，最后再也起不来了，归零了。
别动不动就代表别人了，只是部分人输不起在绑架系统，正是这种无赖无信用行为导致用户越来越少。
即使这次能反弹回去，BTS信用也已经被糟蹋完了，想发展是做梦，bitCNY锚定基础已经没有了，比草纸糊的假币都不如，以后推广bitCNY都是货真价实的骗子行为了。
就是这个道理，我看他们这些被爆仓的不是不懂，老是在想占系统便宜罢了
等cny贬值了，就该曲终人散，贬值后，重启系统也无补于事，真正完蛋
正常情况下贬值，即使黑天鹅都不可怕，都是暂时的。
可怕的是BTS是被一群老赖控制，没有任何信用可以任意撕毁合约，即使这次不贬值，不黑天鹅，这种系统有人信任就见鬼了。
这些人控制下BTS生产的bitCNY信用价值就和草纸一样的。在这上面做应用，把产品卖出去的其实都是骗子，不是骗子也是傻子。
前几天答应上bitCNY的平台不是骗子就是傻子，要列入黑名单，还给他们奖励真是见了鬼了。

如果我有业务给用户使用了bitCNY，我现在需要做的是给用户发出严重警告，提示黑天鹅风险，提醒用户卖掉bitCNY。

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