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MemoryCoin / Re: [Poll] Electricity Consumption
« on: January 22, 2014, 12:01:09 am »
http://www.amazon.com/Kill-A-Watt-Electric-Strip-Audio-Electronics-General-Electroni/dp/B00GZRTROM/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390348595&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=killawat+power+strip

Pricey, but better than a standard kill-a-watt.

I figure longer-term, we're looking at a lot of newer users who wouldn't be power-miners, so we can start with simple estimates and detailed clocking comparisons could come later.



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MemoryCoin / Re: BTChris hired as Dynamic Network Analyst (DNA)
« on: January 21, 2014, 11:55:30 pm »
Cool, cool, cool.

What other metrics / qualities / data are you thinking?


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MemoryCoin / Re: Mining, will this power supply run all these 280X cards?
« on: January 21, 2014, 11:45:46 pm »
running 4GB USB Flash drives @ $5 each is worth the wait.
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Honestly the capital costs of combining 3-4 different 480W (320W) PSU's together with ADDPSU or something is almost cheaper than buying a coolio 1250W PSU.

I get $12 re-furbed 80GB SATA HDs off ebay / newegg, and save the USBs for wallet backups.  Much less aggravating if you're setting up multiple wallets / using desktop a lot.

Add2PSUs look neat, I can't get myself to buy them for the price - seems pretty simple to reverse engineer.  Newegg had something that seemed better - an aux gpu power supply - but there was a bit of a delay in powering up after the main psu...not sure if that would be bad or not:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817101044

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MemoryCoin / Re: MaxPWR hired as Deputy Executive Officer (DEO)
« on: January 21, 2014, 06:21:59 pm »
What d'ya mean by "1. d3"?

Not sure what exactly is best - but I've always leaned towards a basic "unit of execution" as a 3-member project team and 3-tiered authority team, E.g.: prepare / review / approve, Supplier / Company / Customer, Executives / Managers / Operations.

So, maybe something like each cXo could have 0-3 project managers / dXo's positions "built in" to the community trust structure in the blockchain.  Really, I think it's the value from knowing more about top-level distribution of new blocks from candidates.

New blocks are easier to...trace...and any "universal community seller / trust" rating could be based on a function of owners from source block and mmc-days (accumulated?)...I should probly withdraw from bter to start accumulating...

Thinking of starting a miner's union...

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MemoryCoin / Re: Mining, will this power supply run all these 280X cards?
« on: January 21, 2014, 05:02:00 pm »
Any other general guidelines, etc that people have?

Correct me where I'm wrong:

PCI-E spec is 75 W from slot, 75 W from 6-pin, 150 W from 8-pin - so 225 W or 375 W. 
Actual card consumption varies.

Itsik put a good link for cpus in the electricity usage thread.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2485.0

Anyone have any performance tips for running off USB? I've always found it too slow.


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MemoryCoin / Re: [Poll] Electricity Consumption
« on: January 21, 2014, 04:46:25 pm »
Nice - thanks.

Is there any decrease in overall performance if you cpu mine while gpu mining? I've never really checked...

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MemoryCoin / Re: New Exchange
« on: January 21, 2014, 04:36:06 pm »
If anyone wants to donate some MMC to me by selling at a discount, you can come wipe out my bid stacks :)

https://poloniex.com/exchange

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MemoryCoin / [Poll] Electricity Consumption
« on: January 21, 2014, 06:48:50 am »
Over in the hardware comparison thread, we have not really collected any power consumption data:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1803.0

I'd like to revive that by guessing how many windmills the network is using per block.

I'll collect my own power consumption data, compare to network stats, and calculate the overall power consumption for MMC in terms of 100 kW windmills.

The more data I have, the more accurate I can get.  If you have access to a kill-a-watt or similar, please let me know your stats.

It may take me a few days, so in the meantime, you can submit your guess above.

If you submit your own data, please include your hardware data and hash rate like in the cpu/gpu thread, along with any custom clock settings, and watts at the outlet while both idle and mining. 

E.g.:

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz: 4.936 hash/min
Idle Power: X Watts
Mining Power: Y Watts

Radeon 7990 undervolted to 1050 mv 21h/m
Idle Power: X Watts
Mining Power: Y Watts

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MemoryCoin / Re: How fast are Memorycoin transactions?
« on: January 21, 2014, 03:59:20 am »
Block target is 6 minutes:
http://memorycoin.org/parameters/

But, most appear to be coming sooner:

http://www.chainbrowser.com/memorycoin/blocklist/

bter.com is currently using 6 confirmations for deposits, but confirmation times would be up to each site/user.

E.g., bter only uses 1 confirmation for btc deposits, not because of different confirmation times, but most likely because of customer demand / perceived low risk of double-spend.

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Mark Twain / Ozzy Osbourne quote:


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I disagree with your economic assessment about the fundamental price of BitUSD.   USD in your privileged financial entity pays 0% in BitUSD pays 5% which should more than make up for regulatory issues.   

This says that it is redeemable but that implies it is a debt instrument, instead I would say that it always has the purchasing power of about 1 USD

Well, the answer to the OP question is trivial - you peg the price to USD by convincing market participants that bitUSD is a 1:1 substitute for USD.

I am not saying it is redeemable or has the legal power of a debt instrument - only that it should be fundamentally valued as such.  "Fundamental" value is nowhere the same as "market" value, which makes most of this a moot point similar to "academic" vs. "engineering" discussions. 

In practice, we can overcome these issues for market participants, e.g., through widespread adoption to make costs negligible, or a 5% dividend, or a good PR campaign.  Even a dividend paid in crypto would suffer the same conversion / tax losses to fiat, and each individual would subjectively value it differently due to future uncertainties, but I doubt most market participants would consider or price that in to the equation.

Although the intent is to get them as close as possible, bitUSD value cannot be fundamentally equal to USD value.  One is a unit of measure in a wealth system, the other is a unit of measure in a debt system. A person cannot expect wealth systems to completely replace debt systems.  You cannot completely eliminate either, and you need to consider system interfaces. 

For cryptocurrency systems in general, fundamental value is based on cashing out to legal tender - i.e., exiting the system.  This is evident in current differences in btc prices across exchanges / currencies, which can be fundamentally attributed to the cost / time / ease to market participants of cashing out if market effects such as liquidity and information imbalances are neglected.

I hope that bitshares and crypto markets in general will not have to consider this - either crypto will become so widely used between individuals that you do not need legal tender in day-to-day activities, or so widely accepted that cost of converting to legal tender can be ignored in day-to-day activities.  But currently, we have no financial institutions that will even convert btc to legal tender - exchanges convert and only act as approved payment processors divisions of banks to impose KYC regulations.  Fiat exchanges must absorb the cost of maintaining fiat reserves / debt funding to cover any runs on cashing out, e.g. if price rises suddenly.  Crypto-only exchanges ignore this wealth-debt system interface, and pass this issue on to others to address.
 
Ideally, crypto and bitshares would result in people using USD only when it has to be used - whenever governments say it has to be used, which from legal tender laws would be for payments to governments - taxes.  Right now, this is not how USD is valued - it is considered a substitute for wealth as well as debt, but the growth of crypto systems will only clarify these value distinctions. 

A bitUSD will only have the purchasing power of 1 USD if someone else accepts it as a substitute.  If someone accepts bitUSD as a 1:1 substitute, that is only saying they will have no obligations to convert any of it to USD legal tender for taxes / government payments.  If they do have obligations to convert any, they would add a premium to cover the cost necessary to do so.  This cost will ultimately depend on regulations and fees from fiat exchanges to cover operating costs and reserve risks.

I like to build castles in the air but, without a solid foundation in the real world, I will never be able to move in.  I have to consider that some portion of cryptocurrencies will need to be converted to real-world fiat, and I need to conservatively assume that is the limiting factor for an assessment of fundamental, objective, ex-crypto-system value of a bitUSD.

I would propose the two questions below as thought experiments:

1) How does I3 expect a person to be able to pay taxes using bitUSD?

2) Assume you own a store that sells physical silver.  As the store owner, you are ultimately responsible for meeting any regulatory, reporting, sales tax, etc requirements.

Customer A walks in with 1,000 bitUSD in his account.  Customer B walks in with 1,000 USD in his account.  Both can swipe a card, push a button, etc and transfer their account balance to yours with the same ease and cost.  Both expect to receive more silver than the other, and will not buy if they are not offered more than the other. 

Which customer will leave your store with physical silver?

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hehe - I say you need the most basic commodity that all these cryptos are based on - electricity.

But...you'd need really fast confirmation times :P

Or, you could do its centrist proxy - carbon credits.

Please don't do carbon credits...

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Keyhotee / Keyhotee Economics
« on: January 20, 2014, 10:12:15 am »
Watched the video, browsed some forum posts, but still big gaps in my understanding regarding economics for operation / mining / pricing / etc...

It seems like keyhotee is basically a wallet address with a client behind it that can push / pull commands onto a distributed blockchain?

Will there be mining? What algorithm / hardware wrt network security and 51%?  Would there be a market to re-sell to keep miners mining? Would that market only be based on "buying an ID to use with keyhotee"? Would there be transaction fees, user sign-up or site license fees, etc?

Kind of just trying to figure out "who's gonna pay for all this, and how?"


 




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A bitUSD is simply a futures contract for redemption to actual USD (physical or electronic) by a regulated financial entity that has been granted the privilege of doing so by its sovereign nation.

Markets should reach a consensus equilibrium value that represents the additional costs of exchange, transmission, regulatory compliance, licensing, and other operating costs necessary for convertibility to actual USD.  Consensus discounts for future value between crypto and fiat markets may also appear if processing or clearing times are significant.

These costs may be negligible, but will never be non-zero. The theoretical fundamental price of bitUSD shall always be lower than USD already present in an account at a privileged financial entity.

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MemoryCoin / Re: MaxPWR hired as Deputy Executive Officer (DEO)
« on: January 19, 2014, 05:58:01 pm »
How about global thermonuclear war, or would you prefer a nice game of chess?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/quotes

If you search the forums, you will find the following:

My CEO address is:
MVTEceoftKAgPVbf7BgbqkPaRmKoZdbZRQ

I am voting for myself from:
MNMRYcnTE3XWtBWn2Grt5DcewHveFb6E3s

I have pledged funds to promote a community miner for MMCPOST here:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2439.msg30037#msg30037

And, yes...I am FreeTrade's enemy - because I act in my own self-interest.  I see my own amounts of value, income, and growth in MMC.  So I want to focus on different areas.  Everyone else is the same - many selves are interested in good.  We should develop community standards and practices based on that model to be safest.  Leads to good community policies for distribution of property ownership and means of production, plus facilitates peer-checking and quality control in distributed management systems:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_quality_management

So, here's my chess move:

I may transfer my DEO funds to my voting address and vote for myself as CEO.  Others may vote for me as CEO.

If elected as CEO, I may hire FreeTrade to code three DEO positions at 1/4 CEO each, and to be chosen by the CEO.  Each DEO shall be subtitled as Income, Value, and Growth.  Each shall make recommendations, define policies, pursue community projects, and provide program updates on or linked through the memorycoin.org website as a financial reporting service to shareholders.

A person or address may hold more than 1 CEO/DEO position.  The person controlling the most (or the CEO in case of a tie) shall act as the de facto CEO for choosing DEOs. 

If I am elected CEO, I shall create the positions above and offer FreeTrade all three DEO positions.  If he accepts all three, he shall be the de facto CEO to assign DEOs, and may offer his positions to anyone else.  If he offers me DEO Growth, then I may vote for him as CEO instead.     

This basically just gets us back to where we started, but with the income/value/growth categories and overall general-deputy archetype established as precedent.  These are basically your crypto-pundits / trolls turned developer...or "cabinet members" in some circles. (We could just short circuit it and put it in, or we could play through the campaign/vote game to "program" it in.) 

Send 1 MMC Satoshi to my CEO address to support the income/value/growth DEO model:

MVTEceoftKAgPVbf7BgbqkPaRmKoZdbZRQ

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