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Title: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Chris4210 on December 24, 2015, 05:00:33 pm
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year from BitShares Munich!
 
Today we are happy to announce the OPENPOS token, now available for trading on the DEx!
This token helps us to fund the completion of 2 major software projects that we have been working on behind the scenes...
 
Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS)
(http://i.imgur.com/WTIxlSz.png)
 
Features:
BitShares Wallet v1.0 for Android and iPhone
(http://i.imgur.com/2A4SoVO.jpg)
 
Features:
Why did we choose BitShares for fund raising?
One of the most important advantages of crowdfunding is the fact that it keeps us in touch with you, the BitShares community. You are the main reason why we develop high quality products & services like the BitShares Wallet app - we want you to use BitShares! Without you, we cannot afford the development costs of our products, bringing BitShares to the mainstream. We need you to make the Smartcoins POS systems a reality and bring it to the maximum number of merchants and online stores. We hope you will join us on this journey, by supporting and using our BitShares Munich products, so you can have the same wonderful experience we are having by creating it.
 
Token Issued: Due to the current legal situation with BitShares UIAs, BitShares Munich has accepted an agreement with Crypto Coins Exchange Denmark ApS (CCEDK). CCEDK has created and issued 500K OPENPOS Tokens and sent them to the BitShares Munich account. All OPENPOS tokens will initially be sold through BitShares Munich. All collected OPENPOS trading fees are paid out to CCEDK as compensation.
Risk: As with any fund raiser, there is associated risk. BitShares Munich will use the funds to invest in the above projects for the BitShares ecosystem. User adoption of said products could fail or a business may prefer to use only fiat payments over cryptocurrencies. We strongly remind you, only invest what you can afford to lose. You use all BitShares related products and services at your own risk.
Competition: There is no real competition with the BitShares ecosystem yet. Bitcoin has the first POS systems field tested, but suffers from the high Exchange fees and unstable Bitcoin prices. We did not see a mass adoption of Bitcoin POS systems yet. Also many merchants have stopped offering Bitcoin due to the high payment processing fees eating up their margins. BitShares Munich is convinced that merchants will benefit from stable Smartcoins like bitUSD, bitEUR and bitCNY and prefer the Smartcoins POS systems in the very near future.
Disclaimer: We make no guarantee about the future value or returns related to the OPENPOS token and all purchases are at the buyers risk. This is not an investment proposition, or a binding contract. We are not liable for any losses incurred, direct or indirect by participating in this fundraiser.
 
Rewarding OPENPOS Investors with a monthly buyback program
We believe the OPENPOS tokens provide a unique investment opportunity for you because this token grants you direct access to all future income of the Smartcoins POS system on Odoo. Over 50-thousand businesses currently use the open source Odoo POS hardware/software. 50% of all accumulated profits generated through the POS system will be sent to you. That means, all OPENPOS Investors will directly earn a reward on every Smartcoins POS merchant transaction at every cash register at every Odoo business in the network. Investors have the opportunity to sell their OPENPOS any time at market value or sell the Tokens through the monthly buyback program. BitShares Munich will create a new market order and buy back all available OPENPOS at the beginning of each month. OPENPOS can be traded against bitEUR, bitCNY, bitUSD and BTS. This will lead to a constant buy pressure for the OPENPOS tokens and raise its value for all investors.
 
Please note, all donations collected by the BitShares Wallet will be reinvested in the future development of the BitShares Wallet and are not part of the OPENPOS buyback program. All fees generated through OPENPOS trading belong to the UIA token issuer CCEDK (https://CCEDK.com).
 
How to buy
You can purchase the OPENPOS tokens which represents our stake, initially on the BitShares DEx priced in BTS, bitEUR, bitUSD and bitCNY. The price of OPENPOS in each market is calculated to have the same value as if you purchased from the BTS market. We will start to sell 500K OPENPOS over 3 weeks. OPENPOS tokens are listed on the BitShares DEx market: OPENPOS/BTS, OPENPOS/EUR, OPENPOS/USD, OPENPOS/CNY
https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/exchange/trade/OPENPOS_BTS
 
Want to know more?
Please read through our offer again and send us your question. We will be more than happy to answer all your questions about the BitShares Munich products and the future earning potential of the OPENPOS tokens. Please have a look at the FAQ below...

FAQ:
 
How do I buy OPENPOS tokens?
You can buy OPENPOS at the discounted price either as an Early Bird Investor (see below), or wait until after January 10th to trade OPENPOS on the DEx at market prices.

 
How can I ensure I am being given my fair profit cut?
The Smartcoins POS system will be built on top of BitShares and all collected OPENPOS fees are published on the Blockchain. Chris will publish a monthly revenue report for all Investors. 50% of all POS profits will be used for the monthly buyback on the DEx.
 
Are there any hidden fees involved in receiving of the profits?
No, all fees are publicly available. Investors will only pay the BitShares network transaction fees.
 
Where can I trade OPENPOS?
You can trade OPENPOS exclusively on the DEx.
 
What is the "buyback" feature?
The buyback feature is the rewarding program. We will take 50% of the monthly generated profits and buy back OPENPOS Tokens from the market. Investors can sell their tokens at the current market price or at the next buyback.
 
How much do you want to raise for your projects?
We plan to raise 19k EUR for the whole development of the BitShares Wallet and the Smartcoin POS. The BitShares Wallet is already build and will be available for download January 4th 2016. We screened the best Odoo developer teams and spoke to the Odoo Management about our project within the last couple of weeks. We are confident we got the best team to finish this job. As soon as we get the funding for the first down payment, we will start developing the Smartcoin POS.
 
Early Bird Investors! (Have purchased before January 10th!)
 Pledge $100 or more Bronze
 Pledge $250 or more Silver
 Pledge $1000 or more Gold
 Pledge $2000 or more Platinum

 
Special thanks goes to our first round of Early Bird Investors for their outstanding support!!
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Check out OPENPOS now on the "Rich List"!! http://richlist.btsgame.org 

 
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Christoph Hering: CEO/CMO/CFO and Crypto Coach at BitShares Munich.
Ken Code: Developer, DAC Builder and Crypto Coach at BitShares Munich.
 
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Contact [member=38926]Chris4210[/member] directly or email Chris[at]BitShares-Munich.de to get your discounted OPENPOS today![/tt]
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Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 24, 2015, 05:00:49 pm
Download the BitShares Wallet for Android:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20762.msg280714.html#msg280714
NOTE1: This wallet might have some BUGS, so don't use it for more than you can afford to lose! Register a new account in it.
NOTE2: App stores must review and approve the BitShares Wallet App before they will publish it (account already in progress).
 
|||| Pleeeeease Donate ||||
Besides the OPENPOS token listed in Chris's post above, PLEASE consider donating to the BitShares Wallet project so our Developers can afford to keep this wallet secure, bug free, ad free and constantly improving (see the Roadmap below). -- Thank you! :)
 
BTS account: bitshares-munich
 
FAQ:
Q: ..may I suggest you release it on f-droid.org? Many people (me included!) don't run google services on the system.
A: Since the mobile wallet is totally open source, I don't see why not. I'll try to get it published there as well.
 
Q: How does the hardware side look like? Is it "just" the BitShares wallet for android running on a tablet/phone on the merchant side?
A: No, merchants are running Odoo POS and we are custom integrating with the Odoo POS software in their back-end to support Smartcoins as well as their existing supported payment types such as cash, visa, mastercard, paypal, etc. Our wallet software will not be installed on their systems. Smartcoins POS will also be a free app that Odoo users can install right from the Odoo app store.
 
Q: If it is dedicated hardware, how much will it cost?
A: We are not doing hardware. It is much easier to get mass adoption of Smartcoins if we integrate our software with existing systems and leverage their thousands of existing businesses. Cox Communications for example is 1 of those businesses. They can now have their own BitShares account and offer Smartcoins to their millions of users. A very large supermarket chain that already uses Odoo POS will now be rolling out Smartcoin acceptance at all of their locations.
 
Roadmap:
edit1: added FAQ section above
edit2: pulled out the bond market, added more api's to Finder, added Rewards UIA abilities to roadmap
edit3: download link posted above..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: cass on December 24, 2015, 05:04:07 pm
https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPENPOS_BTS
(correct link)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on December 24, 2015, 05:24:29 pm
How much do you want to raise for your projects?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: fuzzy on December 24, 2015, 06:06:40 pm
#sharebits "Chris4210X" 3 HIGHFIVE
#sharebits "Chris4210X" 1 FISTBUMP
#sharebits "Chris4210X" 500 BTS

#sharebits "kenCode" 3 HIGHFIVE
#sharebits "kenCode" 1 FISTBUMP
#sharebits "kenCode" 500 BTS

This man and his team have been silently working behind the scenes for quite some time now.  Awesome job Munich. :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: btstip on December 24, 2015, 06:07:45 pm
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Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Akado on December 24, 2015, 06:27:02 pm
How much do you want to raise for your projects?

Yep, this wasn't mentioned I believe. 10k, 20k?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: lil_jay890 on December 24, 2015, 06:49:36 pm
How many devs are there and what are their qualifications?  I need to know job history and academic history before investing. I would also like to see a portfolio of past work.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Chris4210 on December 25, 2015, 10:01:22 am
How much do you want to raise for your projects?

Yep, this wasn't mentioned I believe. 10k, 20k?

We plan to raise 19k EUR for the whole development of the BitShares Wallet and the Smartcoin POS.

The BitShares Wallet is already build and will be available for download January 4th 2016.

We screened the best Odoo developer teams and spoke to the Odoo Management about our project within the last couple of weeks. We are confident we got the best team to finish this job. As soon as we get the funding for the first down payment, we will start developing the Smartcoin POS. 

How many devs are there and what are their qualifications?  I need to know job history and academic history before investing. I would also like to see a portfolio of past work.

I am sure Ken can provide the required documents for you.

Merry Christmas to you all.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 25, 2015, 10:32:53 am
How many devs are there and what are their qualifications?  I need to know job history and academic history before investing. I would also like to see a portfolio of past work.

Portfolios are protected by NDA's and I cannot give up their personal information, but I will tell you that I work with highly qualified Devs from all over the world. San Francisco, Italy, Latvia, Ukraine, Pakistan, Turkey, Russia and India primarily.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on December 25, 2015, 10:53:31 am
"Integration with over 50K Odoo POS businesses (supermarket chains, restaurants, retail shops)" --> Could we get clarification on this ? Should it read Integration with potentially over 50K (...) or did I read that right?

Also, clarification on what is done already and what isn't ?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 25, 2015, 11:09:51 am
That 50K number came directly from Odoo. The moment our module is integrated, all of those businesses will be able to use it in their existing systems. The architecture and design has been laid out, what features will go where, looping (future-proofing) through the smartcoins and uia's that the odoo user even needs to see (ie: the user would not need to offer the customer the AAAAAA asset at the cash register) etc, now we just need the money to pay the Devs who will build this. It took us about 3 weeks just to get the firm bid proposal from them. It is mainly python code too so I was able to get a really good deal on the labor charges. We can have the POS into beta stage in less than 2 months if we can just secure the funding.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: lil_jay890 on December 25, 2015, 02:03:24 pm
That 50K number came directly from Odoo. The moment our module is integrated, all of those businesses will be able to use it in their existing systems. The architecture and design has been laid out, what features will go where, looping (future-proofing) through the smartcoins and uia's that the odoo user even needs to see (ie: the user would not need to offer the customer the AAAAAA asset at the cash register) etc, now we just need the money to pay the Devs who will build this. It took us about 3 weeks just to get the firm bid proposal from them. It is mainly python code too so I was able to get a really good deal on the labor charges. We can have the POS into beta stage in less than 2 months if we can just secure the funding.

So you will be working with a consulting firm for the integration? Can you provide the name of the firm and some projects that they have completed?  Will they be paid in fiat or will they also receive open pos?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 25, 2015, 02:46:15 pm
So you will be working with a consulting firm for the integration? Can you provide the name of the firm and some projects that they have completed?  Will they be paid in fiat or will they also receive open pos?

No, I hire independent freelancers, I cannot give out their information to anyone, we are bound by non-disclosure/non-compete agreements. Freelancers are much cheaper, they have lower overhead and care more about their reputation too without having to force me to go through middlemen.
 
As for payment, it depends on the freelancer. The expensive guys only take fiat right now, but I am slowly converting them to BitShares gurus. The guys who just do small projects for me, I pay all of them in BTC and BTS. None of them will receive any sharedropped OPENPOS.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on December 25, 2015, 04:25:51 pm
https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPENPOS_BTS
(correct link)
I hate to dump BTS for other assets. Any other markets?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on December 25, 2015, 04:37:28 pm
Quote
We plan to raise 19k EUR for the whole development of the BitShares Wallet and the Smartcoin POS.

This makes it worth 0.038 EUR or about 12 BTS per 1 OPENPOS. I made my bid.

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPENPOS_BTS

Edit: From the OPENPOS overview:
- require holders to be white-listed
- issuer may transfer asset back to himself
- issuer must approve all transfers
what is this for? (Removed the offer for now)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on December 25, 2015, 04:39:51 pm
https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPENPOS_BTS
(correct link)
I hate to dump BTS for other assets. Any other markets?

Just go ahead and make your bid in whatever market you want.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Chris4210 on December 25, 2015, 06:44:30 pm
Quote
We plan to raise 19k EUR for the whole development of the BitShares Wallet and the Smartcoin POS.
Edit: From the OPENPOS overview:
- require holders to be white-listed
- issuer may transfer asset back to himself
- issuer must approve all transfers
what is this for? (Removed the offer for now)

These are the standard settings for most Tokens.

Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on December 25, 2015, 08:56:38 pm
Quote
We plan to raise 19k EUR for the whole development of the BitShares Wallet and the Smartcoin POS.
Edit: From the OPENPOS overview:
- require holders to be white-listed
- issuer may transfer asset back to himself
- issuer must approve all transfers
what is this for? (Removed the offer for now)

These are the standard settings for most Tokens.

I see. Is it requirement of regulators?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on December 26, 2015, 05:07:24 am
Do you have some images of the mobile wallet ,  a teaser maybe ? How do we see the product ?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on December 26, 2015, 06:59:43 am
I would like to know what [member=120]xeroc[/member] thinks about this. Could comment please .
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 26, 2015, 08:00:30 am
Do you have some images of the mobile wallet ,  a teaser maybe ? How do we see the product ?

Sure, I'll try to shoot a little video next week and post it here so you guys can see how the mobile wallet works. Here's some screen shots of an early alpha of it though:
 
Homescreen:
(http://i.imgur.com/riDDEA0.jpg)
 
Contacts screen:
(http://i.imgur.com/wamFngU.jpg)
 
Send screen:
(http://i.imgur.com/JyNtgOU.jpg)
 
Receive screen:
(http://i.imgur.com/1XG2Xug.jpg)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on December 26, 2015, 08:11:14 am
No images ken..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on December 26, 2015, 08:12:06 am
try http://postimage.org
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Chris4210 on December 26, 2015, 08:45:51 am
No images ken..

I can see the pictures clear. Still some problems?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on December 26, 2015, 08:47:55 am
huh ? I tried safari and chrome , no luck . let me see if it works on mobile
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on December 26, 2015, 08:55:44 am
nope , where do you host your images , I wonder if thats blocked here where I am ..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on December 26, 2015, 08:59:11 am
Did I read somewhere both ios app store AND jailbroken for mobile wallet ,  which one will it be ?  legit or not
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: eagleeye on December 26, 2015, 09:42:16 am
Can you put the coin on the ccedk exchange?  I believe the wallet system for openledger is not bip integrated. 
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on December 26, 2015, 09:43:27 am
nope , where do you host your images , I wonder if thats blocked here where I am ..

I was able to see the images using a proxy, pretty good . And no I am not in N Korea, I am in İstanbul !  ::)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Chris4210 on December 26, 2015, 09:45:28 am
nope , where do you host your images , I wonder if thats blocked here where I am ..

There seems to be a problem with your browser settings, we hosted the pictures on: imgur.com

I uploaded the pictures on my Dropbox again. please see here: http://bit.ly/22sGtbR


Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 26, 2015, 09:51:25 am
Did I read somewhere both ios app store AND jailbroken for mobile wallet ,  which one will it be ?  legit or not

Yeah, to install an app on iphone without using their app store, you must jailbreak the iphone for it to be allowed by iOS. I hear it takes a couple months for them to approve new apps for their app store, especially cryptocurrency related apps.
 
I'm an andoid guy myself so don't quote me on their jailbreak thing, it's just what my iOS guy told me. Androids won't have a problem installing the apk file though, I have already done it numerous times. My wife actually installed it on her phone yesterday with no problems. [member=120]xeroc[/member] you met my wife too, she is not techie at all lol
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 26, 2015, 09:55:07 am
Can you put the coin on the ccedk exchange?  I believe the wallet system for openledger is not bip integrated.

[member=38926]Chris4210X[/member] - please ask Ronny [member=23432]ccedk[/member] about this question from [member=20284]eagleeye[/member]
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on December 26, 2015, 10:01:47 am
Changed the DNS settings, apparently our govt doesnt like imgur much !  The wallet looks pretty nice guys , well done.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 26, 2015, 12:19:05 pm
Changed the DNS settings, apparently our govt doesnt like imgur much !  The wallet looks pretty nice guys , well done.

Thanx bitacer! Like I mentioned, I'll try to upload a video for you guys next week too so you can see the flow, the react language abilities and such. I'll just record it with my wife's camera or something.
 
The OPENPOS price is going up daily guys, so contact [member=38926]Chris4210X[/member] to get in early if you can. Just like Obits, the OPENPOS token comes with cashflow rewards as well. I just bought some today myself.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on December 26, 2015, 05:13:49 pm
Changed the DNS settings, apparently our govt doesnt like imgur much !  The wallet looks pretty nice guys , well done.

Thanx bitacer! Like I mentioned, I'll try to upload a video for you guys next week too so you can see the flow, the react language abilities and such. I'll just record it with my wife's camera or something.
 
The OPENPOS price is going up daily guys, so contact [member=38926]Chris4210X[/member] to get in early if you can. Just like Obits, the OPENPOS token comes with cashflow rewards as well. I just bought some today myself.
[member=30868]kenCode[/member] I want to buy some but [member=38926]Chris4210X[/member] is not online right now..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on December 26, 2015, 05:14:27 pm
Me too.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on December 26, 2015, 05:27:05 pm
It's still Dec. 26 now, right?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 26, 2015, 05:28:28 pm
Thanx guys!
 
All buy orders to his email or pm will reserve the day's lowest price for you, so please make sure you tell him how much you want to invest. I just sms' d him too. He has family in town so I know he is checking messages every few hours or so though. Thanx [member=18687]abit[/member] and [member=4792]38PTSWarrior[/member] :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on December 26, 2015, 05:42:37 pm
You wrote "Funds are sent directly to the merchant's BitShares account (required)" ;

My only concern is whether merchants will be receptive to this idea since they will need to receive payments to their bitshares accounts, and that seems to be a problem in terms  tax requirements. Over here where I am from every purchase I make there is VAT included and that tax has nothing to do with the merchant but tax authorities require merchants to hand over those taxes to the Internal Revenue Service. Hence , the merchant in this case acts as an intermediary tax collecting agent who is required to pass those taxes to the authorities.  Now, as merchants probably purchase inputs using fiat money receiving cryptocurrency as a payment might complicate their accounting procedure in terms of taxes. I would like to hear how this will be solved. It seems to me  that for the time being there is a need for an intermediary entity acting as the payer- like a teller serving  the bitshares ecosystem. Ken ?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on December 26, 2015, 05:45:45 pm
Thanx guys!
 
All buy orders to his email or pm will reserve the day's lowest price for you, so please make sure you tell him how much you want to invest. I just sms' d him too. He has family in town so I know he is checking messages every few hours or so though. Thanx [member=18687]abit[/member] and [member=4792]38PTSWarrior[/member] :)
Thanks
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on December 26, 2015, 06:17:31 pm
I have a feeling that bitshares ecosystem will need something like a crypto bank offering this service to the crypto space. An account can be created for a participating merchant and when that account is paid for a product with crypto,  the crypto bank will pay the merchant in fiat.  Similar to Nano card , but in this case customer wont need a debit card but transactions will be taken care of by this intermediary crypto bank. At this stage there is still a need for an intermediary. Fiat money has banks serving it why doesnt crypto have its own banks ?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 26, 2015, 07:06:01 pm
You wrote "Funds are sent directly to the merchant's BitShares account (required)" ;
My only concern is if merchants will be receptive to this idea since they will need to receive payments to their bitshares accounts, and that seems to be a problem in terms  tax requirements. Over here where I am from every purchase I make there is VAT included and that tax has nothing to do with the merchant but tax authorities require merchants to hand over those taxes to the Internal Revenue Service. Hence , the merchant in this case acts as an intermediary tax collector.  Now, as merchants probably purchase inputs using fiat money receiving cryptocurrency as a payment might complicate their accounting procedure in terms of taxes. I would like to hear how this will be solved. It seems to me  that for the time being there is a need for an intermediary entity acting as the payer- like a teller serving  the bitshares ecosystem. Ken ?

Yes, we are requiring all merchants to have a BitShares account. Merchants have this same requirement if they want to process credit cards. Credit card merchant accounts are much worse though with their fees, gateway accounts, ssl certs and all kinds of other requirements. Smartcoins become the obvious choice for growth.
 
The moment funds are collected from the customer or wallet user, they are saved in the transaction history with a fiat equivalent (looked up in real-time via the DEx and CCEDK). Upon export, the merchants accountant can just look at the fiat equivalents coming in and doesn't need to know anything about how crypto works. No banks needed. I do it the same way in my personal expenditures of crypto. I always log the fiat equivalent at that moment in a spreadsheet so my accountant knows everything she needs to know for taxes, writeoffs, etc.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on December 27, 2015, 11:36:17 am
Imo the Market fee of OPENPOS is a bit too high.
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Market fee   2%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 27, 2015, 11:44:00 am
Does anyone here have a Blackphone 2?
I'd like to see if we can run the wallet app on that phone as well.
Allegedly, that Silent Circle phone runs a flavor of android called Silent OS.
Please let me know asap, thanx, ken
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: 麥可貓 on December 27, 2015, 01:04:28 pm
I was re-directed here by bitacer (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20780.0.html). Sorry in advance that  don't have a lot casual time now, so I make my point as concise as possible:

1. cell phone wallet is definitely worth doing. I still remember there was a project called limewallet that claimed to do so, but I cannot find any progress now
2. Speaking of POS, lets make this clear logically: "a POS for bts" does not equal to "commercial adoption of bts", but what we actually want is the later one, isn't it?
3. Is a POS for bts the key for stores to accept bts? Not actually. The key is a good commercial team to persuade corporations to do so.
4. Is a POS for bts necessary for stores to accept bts? Not actually. Check this out if you have not seen it:
https://medium.com/@digital654321/familymart-now-accpets-bitoex-s-bitcoin-wallet-to-buy-goods-b85c9bac78f2#.djc1n1g0g
a bitcoin exchange BitoEX teamed up with familymart to aceept bitcoin to buy goods by using the small machine 'famiport'. They just added a button for this next to buttons for buying game points or other coupons. No complex software is involved, the key secret is how BitoEX persuade Famiymart to do so.

Once again, Itruely appreciate the effort to make a cell phone wallet for bts, but as to the other one,  it is actually a commercial problem, not a programming problem.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Akado on December 27, 2015, 02:34:14 pm
Imo the Market fee of OPENPOS is a bit too high.
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Market fee   2%

Isn't the fee for payment terminals or whatever their called, like 3%? I understand you have a business but the difference might not be worth it for merchants.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on December 27, 2015, 02:35:27 pm
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3. Is a POS for bts the key for stores to accept bts? Not actually. The key is a good commercial team to persuade corporations to do so.

This is not a POS for BTS. Merchants will never accept BTS. They will accept bitUSD, bitEUR etc, or issue their own tokens. Bitshares != BTS.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 27, 2015, 02:57:43 pm

No complex software is involved, the key secret is how BitoEX persuade Famiymart to do so.

Let the competition do the persuasion. Over 50K businesses use the Odoo software, businesses like Cox Communications for example (they have millions of customers). Instead of trying to convince 1 corporation, I would rather provide options for 50K hungry businesses all at once, some whom of which are competing with each other. Hence, we kill 50K birds with 1 stone (in a sense).
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Chris4210 on December 27, 2015, 03:01:48 pm
Imo the Market fee of OPENPOS is a bit too high.
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Market fee   2%

Isn't the fee for payment terminals or whatever their called, like 3%? I understand you have a business but the difference might not be worth it for merchants.

The merchant fees depend on the payment processor. They can range from 1-2% for each debit card transaction and 2-4% and more  for credit cards .

Many small stores in Germany do not accept debit cards as payment due to the high fees. We plan offer lower fees for our services, especially since we use Smartcoins bitEUR, bitUSD, or bitCNY as core currencies.

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3. Is a POS for bts the key for stores to accept bts? Not actually. The key is a good commercial team to persuade corporations to do so.

This is not a POS for BTS. Merchants will never accept BTS. They will accept bitUSD, bitEUR etc, or issue their own tokens. Bitshares != BTS.


Yes, the Smartcoin POS can handle regular debit and credit cards PLUS all major Smartcoins ranging from BitShares, Bitcoin to Doge and Litecoin. Most Bitcoins POS where not successful due to BTC price volatility. I am convinced we can change that with BitShares Smartcoins.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 27, 2015, 03:33:27 pm
I'd like to give a special Thank You, a shoutout to [member=37209]bitacer[/member] for correcting our Turkish translation!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bUN9N6uIBEloXtWZNXJQ-xG6NaT57FA4sHOvkqRyGE8/edit?usp=sharing
 
THANK YOU BITACER!! :) +5% +5% +5%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on December 27, 2015, 03:41:28 pm

Yes, the Smartcoin POS can handle regular debit and credit cards PLUS all major Smartcoins ranging from BitShares, Bitcoin to Doge and Litecoin. Most Bitcoins POS where not successful due to BTC price volatility. I am convinced we can change that with BitShares Smartcoins.

Merchants can also issue their own tokens, like giftcards, in few seconds. Think about it. A token fully baked by business. Customer preloads bitshares wallet with merchant's token, then go shop with discount. A win situation for both, merchant and customer.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 27, 2015, 03:48:24 pm
Merchants can also issue their own tokens, like a giftcards, in few seconds. Think about it. A token fully baked by business. Customer preloads bitshares wallet with merchant's token, then shop with discount. A win situation for both, merchant and customer.

Bingo +5% +5% and +5% 8)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: 麥可貓 on December 27, 2015, 04:03:29 pm

No complex software is involved, the key secret is how BitoEX persuade Famiymart to do so.

Let the competition do the persuasion. Over 50K businesses use the Odoo software, businesses like Cox Communications for example (they have millions of customers). Instead of trying to convince 1 corporation, I would rather provide options for 50K hungry businesses all at once, some whom of which are competing with each other. Hence, we kill 50K birds with 1 stone (in a sense).

1. If blockchain technology, or at least bitcoin, has become a self-evident phenomena, then yes companies would be persuaded naturally. If it is still the frontier of innovation, then as I know a commercial expert is the key to bridge two worlds.
2. Convicing 1 corporation with 2986 branches (aka Familymart) is definitely better than convicing 50k corporations in many ways. You cannot have the man power to convince 50k corporations, hence it is not like kill 50k birds with one stone, it is actually sit and wait 50k birds die naturally.
3. A good example is the bts cart. As I can recall, it has been done for a long time. Look how many web shops are using it?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on December 27, 2015, 04:38:37 pm
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You cannot have the man power to convince 50k corporations, hence it is not like kill 50k birds with one stone, it is actually sit and wait 50k birds die naturally.

It is actually like putting bird food into 50K bird feeders and waiting when 50M birds come to eat. They may come or may not. Good chance that they will.

Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Pheonike on December 27, 2015, 06:32:27 pm

The more options bts/smartcoins have out in the wild, the better the odds of success. Its nearly impossible to predict which ave would lead to success thars why we should have many.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: btswolf on December 27, 2015, 09:01:24 pm
Hi,

Since I were not able to find BitShares-Munich as registered Company it seems like you are doing this fundraiser as private individuals?!
If you are doing it as private individual I wonder if the 19k EURO you want to raise are really reliable developer costs or if you just want to stay in the 20k EURO taxfree crowdfunding zone?
Or are you doing the fundraiser as Small Business? Then you would have to pay tax if you raise more than 17.500 EURO?!

If this is a private show how can Chris be the CEO/CMO/CFO of anything?
Why is CCEDK the issuer of the Token and you are "only" the seller?
* What is the difference between creating/issuing the token and just selling it?

I suggest you to create a legal business entity because you are:
* Doing a crowdfund of ~19.000 €
* You are offering a 50% rewarding program which is basically recurring buyback of OPENPOS that is very likely affected by the KWG (http://www.bafin.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/EN/Aufsichtsrecht/dl_kwg_en.pdf)
* You are offering a contract which is at least affected by $312b BGB (http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_bgb/englisch_bgb.html#p1070)

Wasn't there a call with Winheller from which you wanted to post the results here a while ago?
* I think the whole community would benefit from the knowledge you gained about bitassets and taxes.

Sorry for this littlebit pessimistic post but I fear I would not get back anything in return of my investment when you've found out how big the regulatory issues you'll face really are.

On the other hand you will become my personal heroes if this projects gets through all the regulatory instances successfully.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: eagleeye on December 28, 2015, 07:23:43 am
Hi,

Since I were not able to find BitShares-Munich as registered Company it seems like you are doing this fundraiser as private individuals?!
If you are doing it as private individual I wonder if the 19k EURO you want to raise are really reliable developer costs or if you just want to stay in the 20k EURO taxfree crowdfunding zone?
Or are you doing the fundraiser as Small Business? Then you would have to pay tax if you raise more than 17.500 EURO?!

If this is a private show how can Chris be the CEO/CMO/CFO of anything?
Why is CCEDK the issuer of the Token and you are "only" the seller?
* What is the difference between creating/issuing the token and just selling it?

I suggest you to create a legal business entity because you are:
* Doing a crowdfund of ~19.000 €
* You are offering a 50% rewarding program which is basically recurring buyback of OPENPOS that is very likely affected by the KWG (http://www.bafin.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/EN/Aufsichtsrecht/dl_kwg_en.pdf)
* You are offering a contract which is at least affected by $312b BGB (http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_bgb/englisch_bgb.html#p1070)

Wasn't there a call with Winheller from which you wanted to post the results here a while ago?
* I think the whole community would benefit from the knowledge you gained about bitassets and taxes.

Sorry for this littlebit pessimistic post but I fear I would not get back anything in return of my investment when you've found out how big the regulatory issues you'll face really are.

On the other hand you will become my personal heroes if this projects gets through all the regulatory instances successfully.

Have a google translate button on your website, I wouldn't mind reading your stuff.

I would have pmed you but not everyone looks at personal messages.

I also agree with you, if kenCode can pull this off, it will make bitshares huge.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: 38PTSWarrior on December 28, 2015, 08:42:59 am
Hi,

Since I were not able to find BitShares-Munich as registered Company it seems like you are doing this fundraiser as private individuals?!
If you are doing it as private individual I wonder if the 19k EURO you want to raise are really reliable developer costs or if you just want to stay in the 20k EURO taxfree crowdfunding zone?
Or are you doing the fundraiser as Small Business? Then you would have to pay tax if you raise more than 17.500 EURO?!

If this is a private show how can Chris be the CEO/CMO/CFO of anything?
Why is CCEDK the issuer of the Token and you are "only" the seller?
* What is the difference between creating/issuing the token and just selling it?

I suggest you to create a legal business entity because you are:
* Doing a crowdfund of ~19.000 €
* You are offering a 50% rewarding program which is basically recurring buyback of OPENPOS that is very likely affected by the KWG (http://www.bafin.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/EN/Aufsichtsrecht/dl_kwg_en.pdf)
* You are offering a contract which is at least affected by $312b BGB (http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_bgb/englisch_bgb.html#p1070)

Wasn't there a call with Winheller from which you wanted to post the results here a while ago?
* I think the whole community would benefit from the knowledge you gained about bitassets and taxes.

Sorry for this littlebit pessimistic post but I fear I would not get back anything in return of my investment when you've found out how big the regulatory issues you'll face really are.

On the other hand you will become my personal heroes if this projects gets through all the regulatory instances successfully.

Have a google translate button on your website, I wouldn't mind reading your stuff.

I would have pmed you but not everyone looks at personal messages.

I also agree with you, if kenCode can pull this off, it will make bitshares huge.
Eagleeye, could you write me a worker proposal?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 28, 2015, 09:44:03 am
[member=32866]btswolf[/member]
Our meeting with Winheller on Nov 23rd was very revealing. They handle all of the legal and tax reporting. I cannot give legal or financial advice, but I can tell you what they told us as they said that we *could* actually be an issuer of tokens but we chose not to since we want to raise funds from a global audience for this project. I'm more paranoid than most when it comes to regulations so conferring with Chris, we chose CCEDK as the perfect choice because of their status out of Denmark which is still very crypto friendly. All you guys issuing sharebot tips and brics and all that stuff be forewarned, what you are doing is very dangerous. Winheller also told us that if you (Americans, Germans, Europeans in general, whatever) DO want to be the issuer of a UIA that (in issuance context) you should never use the words "shares", "dividend", "money", "credit", "kickback" or "bank". Even "tips" are supposed to be taxed you guys. The word token however is apparently undefined in German law and since we live here we chose to go with Winheller's advice and only use that word. The words "reward" and "token" are used to indicate the long term benefits of holding a token (like baseball cards, they may, or may not be worth something some day). The 19K number has nothing to do with taxation, it is the exact number that must be raised to finish up these 2 projects. For everyone's security, the developers are always paid using multiple milestones and escrow. As for Titles, you can have whatever titles you want as it summarizes for people who to go to for what information. Generally speaking, Chris is the marketing and finances guy and I am the project manager and developer guy. Both of us are taxed privately without a company formed right now, but at some point when we can afford it and we actually have some assets to protect then we may set something up along those lines. I for one have no income at all, zero. I do get a government check every month for 180€ that helped me out personally a bit but that is about to end next month I think. My wife works full-time to support the family right now. Chris has a second part time job which helps, but I can tell you we are both just making ends meet so that we can get these projects off the ground. When BitShares grows, then we can grow.
 
We'll be having a mumble this friday (I think), [member=602]fuzzy[/member] so if you guys want to chat about Smartcoins POS or the BitShares Wallet please join in on the call!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 28, 2015, 09:45:16 am
[member=602]fuzzy[/member] - Please let me know what time our mumble this friday will be if it's cool with you, thanx! :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: btswolf on December 28, 2015, 10:14:17 am
Our meeting with Winheller on Nov 23rd was very revealing.
Thanks a lot for your feedback [member=30868]kenCode[/member] .
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: fuzzy on December 28, 2015, 01:46:51 pm
[member=602]fuzzy[/member] - Please let me know what time our mumble this friday will be if it's cool with you, thanx! :)

11:30 should be fine.  that gives everyone a short interlude to get crackers and milk.   8)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 28, 2015, 02:02:26 pm
[member=602]fuzzy[/member] - Please let me know what time our mumble this friday will be if it's cool with you, thanx! :)

11:30 should be fine.  that gives everyone a short interlude to get crackers and milk.   8)

GMT? Sorry, I'm not sure what timezone you're in.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: eagleeye on December 28, 2015, 03:56:22 pm
Hi,

Since I were not able to find BitShares-Munich as registered Company it seems like you are doing this fundraiser as private individuals?!
If you are doing it as private individual I wonder if the 19k EURO you want to raise are really reliable developer costs or if you just want to stay in the 20k EURO taxfree crowdfunding zone?
Or are you doing the fundraiser as Small Business? Then you would have to pay tax if you raise more than 17.500 EURO?!

If this is a private show how can Chris be the CEO/CMO/CFO of anything?
Why is CCEDK the issuer of the Token and you are "only" the seller?
* What is the difference between creating/issuing the token and just selling it?

I suggest you to create a legal business entity because you are:
* Doing a crowdfund of ~19.000 €
* You are offering a 50% rewarding program which is basically recurring buyback of OPENPOS that is very likely affected by the KWG (http://www.bafin.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/EN/Aufsichtsrecht/dl_kwg_en.pdf)
* You are offering a contract which is at least affected by $312b BGB (http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_bgb/englisch_bgb.html#p1070)

Wasn't there a call with Winheller from which you wanted to post the results here a while ago?
* I think the whole community would benefit from the knowledge you gained about bitassets and taxes.

Sorry for this littlebit pessimistic post but I fear I would not get back anything in return of my investment when you've found out how big the regulatory issues you'll face really are.

On the other hand you will become my personal heroes if this projects gets through all the regulatory instances successfully.

Have a google translate button on your website, I wouldn't mind reading your stuff.

I would have pmed you but not everyone looks at personal messages.

I also agree with you, if kenCode can pull this off, it will make bitshares huge.
Eagleeye, could you write me a worker proposal?

Go on skype and i can help you with it.  (I can write it but i would need to know what you want to do exactly). Msg me your skype I'd again and then we can do it.

Sorry for hijacking this thread.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 28, 2015, 04:09:38 pm
Hey guys, Chris is with family through the 7th so messages and orders will be processed once per day now so he can spend time with them. Just fyi :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on December 28, 2015, 10:20:40 pm
[member=602]fuzzy[/member] - Please let me know what time our mumble this friday will be if it's cool with you, thanx! :)

11:30 should be fine.  that gives everyone a short interlude to get crackers and milk.   8)

GMT? Sorry, I'm not sure what timezone you're in.
This Friday? Jan. 1?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 29, 2015, 07:21:12 am
Yes, this friday, but I need to know what time.
His time? My time? 11:30 GMT would be perfect for me actually. I am in Germany (GMT+1).
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Chris4210 on December 29, 2015, 08:43:12 am
Due to the Christmas Holidays and New Year Celebrations are we extending the OPENPOS discounts for you!!

Here is the new discount schedule.

Days   discount   bts price   
24.12.2015   35%      16
25.12.2015   35%      16
26.12.2015   35%      16
27.12.2015   20%      20
28.12.2015   20%      20
29.12.2015   20%      20
30.12.2015   20%      20
31.12.2015   20%      20
01.01.2016   10%      23
02.01.2016   10%      23
03.01.2016   10%      23
04.01.2016   10%      23
05.01.2016   10%      23
06.01.2016   5%      24
07.01.2016   5%      24
08.01.2016   5%      24
09.01.2016   5%      24
10.01.2016   5%      24

Please support us with the future development of the Smartcoins Point of Sales System and the BitShares Wallet!

Special thanks goes to our first round of Early Bird Investors for their outstanding support of up to 700 Euro !!

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Thank you all for your great support!

Cheers from Rom!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 29, 2015, 11:40:15 am
OPENPOS is now on the Rich List :)
http://richlist.btsgame.org
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 29, 2015, 04:53:45 pm
Tonight I am researching f-droid app store stuff, Blackphone support and open map api's (for the v2 Finder) so that ultimately we'll never have to rely on google. If you guys have any experience with these 3 things please advise, thanx! 
 
edit: Leafletjs looks awesome (good idea??)
edit2: After wallet v1.0 is launched, I'll need some help with the f-droid submission, metadata, etc. My Devs have never submitted to f-droid before.
edit3: Who here has a Blackphone2 that we can test on??
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: julian1 on December 30, 2015, 12:19:37 pm
Screenshots look really impressive - very clean and functional design. Great job!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on December 30, 2015, 12:47:21 pm
Imo the Market fee of OPENPOS is a bit too high.
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Market fee   2%

Isn't the fee for payment terminals or whatever their called, like 3%? I understand you have a business but the difference might not be worth it for merchants.
I mean the market fee for OPENPOS token in the DEX.
Now the market fee is set to 2%, which means if you buy 100 OPENPOS from the market, 2 OPENPOS will go to CCEDK.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on December 30, 2015, 01:28:15 pm
Fyi, I am going to try to shoot an amateur video of the wallet in action tonight once my wife gets home and can watch my girls. Will try to upload it to our youtube channel tonight or tomorrow.
 
edit: making some UI tweaks tonight, will shoot the video tomorrow afternoon
 
edit2: here is alpha 6: https://youtu.be/c5y76XGFKwM - will have the new UI loaded up in a few days and will run a new install on my wifes phone too. when you wash out red it looks like frign pink, she loves it but i hate it.. i am hard to please. ok anyway, will have another video uploaded for ya in a few days.
thanx to everyone who has been helping out with the translations too!! :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 03, 2016, 10:10:47 pm
My wife and I shot another video tonight, this time of the alpha 7 release. The file is 881MB though, so have to let it upload overnight to youtube. Will post link to it and the apk tomorrow, goin to bed now :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Chris4210 on January 03, 2016, 10:33:01 pm
Please support us with the future development of the Smartcoins Point of Sales System and the BitShares Wallet!

I want to thank all new Early Bird Investors for their outstanding support!!  +5%

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Thank you all for your great support!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 04, 2016, 09:13:03 am
Here is a 2 part video of the alpha 7 release:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1GSbJ7fG3Q&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0&index=2
 
I am uploading the Android apk now for anyone who wants to start playing around with it. Downloads, roadmap, bug reports, FAQ, etc will always be accessible from this post:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20762.msg268174.html#msg268174
 
Some features have not been enabled yet like the share with a friend button, editing an existing contact, brainkey, tons of little UI tweaks and other small things.
 
My mobile guy worked right through the holidays as per my request, so now he is taking a 1 week break. He will return to work next monday the 11th.
 
Please keep in mind this is not even a beta yet, it is still in alpha stage of development. Just register a new account with it, and do not use this wallet with more than you can afford to lose.
 
Please help support this OPENPOS project by getting the token itself or by just donating as much as you can to account:
 
bitshares-munich
 
Thank you so much, with your help we can make it awesome!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on January 04, 2016, 10:09:46 am
Outstanding ken!

I'm downloading the apk and running some tests on a google-free android, will let you know of any relevant findings.

Two questions:

- How is the f-droid.org integration going? Can we expect to see the app available there soon? (don't forget to brand it as alpha!)

- Has the OPENPOS team considered that having 0 privacy might hinder adoption at the POS ? As privacy concerns mount worldwide, many (not enough, if you ask me  >:() people are mindful of location privacy as well. If the same account is always used on the wallet, well then, it's trivial to dig up who this person is, where they have been, and what they've been buying.

The only way I can see to mitigate the point above is sending stealth to the mobile wallet (which probably doesn't even support that yet), and have the wallet also send via stealth transfer to the merchant. What do you think?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: xeroc on January 04, 2016, 10:17:22 am
I am uploading the Android apk now for anyone who wants to start playing around with it. Downloads, roadmap, bug reports, FAQ, etc will always be accessible from this post:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20762.msg268174.html#msg268174

I would recommend to not use large amounts of funds until the code has
been published and some review could be made!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on January 04, 2016, 10:29:40 am
1. In Settings, when scrolling, the text goes over the bitshares (with the logo, upper left) corner.
2. In Settings, there should be a way of selecting None as the taxable country.
3. In Settings, it would make more sense to allow the user to select how many minutes until the wallet is closed, rather than hardcode it to 3.
4. Trying to set a security pin (000000) always returns "Invalid PIN".
5. The FAQ probably shouldn't live at "Settings".
6. While adding a contact, the input of each individual letter only works exactly 50% of the time.
 6.a. Also, it doesn't seem to find even valid accounts at all.
7. When I click "RECEIVE", all it shows is a blank screen. Such poverty!  ;D
8. When I click "SEND", all it shows is a blank screen. Such lock-in!  ;D
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 04, 2016, 10:51:59 am
I would recommend to not use large amounts of funds
Just register a new account with it, and do not use this wallet with more than you can afford to lose.

 
..until the code has been published and some review could be made!

The code was published this morning:
https://github.com/kenCode-de/bitshares-wallet
 
- How is the f-droid.org integration going? Can we expect to see the app available there soon? (don't forget to brand it as alpha!)
- Has the OPENPOS team considered that having 0 privacy might hinder adoption at the POS ? As privacy concerns mount worldwide, many (not enough, if you ask me  >:() people are mindful of location privacy as well. If the same account is always used on the wallet, well then, it's trivial to dig up who this person is, where they have been, and what they've been buying.
The only way I can see to mitigate the point above is sending stealth to the mobile wallet (which probably doesn't even support that yet), and have the wallet also send via stealth transfer to the merchant. What do you think?

I'm not going to work on the f-droid thing yet. I have to stay focused on standard droids and iphones for now. Once we get outta beta then I will look to publish on f-droid as well.
Smartcoins POS transactions will always show up on the blockchain. At this point I think the mainstream media (and merchant's Accountants of course) will appreciate this technology much better when they can clearly see all of the transactions being sent and received at their POS. Stealth will be available in the wallet future versions as you can see from the roadmap, but the POS software I am going to leave that out for now and see how this goes over with the media after launch. We have to roll this out to the world in a way that shows that merchants are not trying to hide anything.
 
Thank you karnal for the issues list. We are WELL aware of the issues you mentioned and when we resume after the 11th (see my post just above) those will all be addressed as well. Keep in mind, we are not even at a beta stage yet. 
 
Everyone, please help support this project with the OPENPOS token!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: xeroc on January 04, 2016, 10:53:49 am
The code was published this morning:
https://github.com/kenCode-de/bitshares-wallet
That's great news!!

// edit: great to see another use of the graphene-ui/dl library .. +5%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on January 04, 2016, 11:31:50 am
Perhaps consider adding to f-droid when you get out of alpha and the wallet is usable. For us enthusiasts it's no problem to install the APK directly (would be nice if you can offer a GPG signature of the apk, or failing at, at least SHA256 checksums), but for people who don't know bitshares, they could become aware of it by seeing the app appearing in the "What's new" section of the f-droid app.

See, the people who use f-droid are also probably interested in all this crypto stuff..


Regarding the merchants having nothing to hide, that's only half the equation .. I don't want the whole internet to know I bought coffee in City_A today and one week later in City_B, for instance.

Now, if you say this shouldn't be a priority *right now* then we're in full agreement, it's more important to have a working wallet and a working POS system and people transacting with it; what I'm saying is, unless you're a proponent of a fully transparent society where mass surveillance is facilitated, expected and encouraged, then at some level there is an obligation to develop this app in a direction that helps people being free from mass surveillance; the whole internet doesn't need to know I bought a coffee here and a book there, the merchant doesn't need to know all my past purchases as well as future ones as s/he now knows who I am and can follow any future blockchain activity, and I don't need to know who else the merchant transacts with, and the amounts involved.

Don't get me wrong, I think you guys are doing an awesome job, just freestyling some philosophy and making suggestions.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 04, 2016, 12:36:13 pm
We are definitely on the same page karnal :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on January 04, 2016, 04:07:58 pm
Great work  +5%
Downloading.
A post in General Discussion board will be more attractive.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on January 04, 2016, 04:40:21 pm
* click on the "please make backup to continue" link -> a "no translation for" message on the button
* click on the button -> a "download" button and a "missing translation" button
* main page -> 2 "missing translation" message on the list below
* the "5KPX..." displayed near the bar-code is the private key of the account or what, why does it change every time reloading the page?
* lots of "missing translation" in the "send" page.

//Edit: language was set to Chinese by default on my phone. It looks better after set language to English.
//Edit2: if language set to Chinese, it shows only spaces at where should be some words. But the date/time displayed in Chinese is fine.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 04, 2016, 05:57:53 pm
Known issues mainly, thanx abit!
When my mobile guy gets back on the 11th, these and a lot more are on the todo list :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 05, 2016, 10:42:33 pm
i am making the contacts screen a bit different. with this redesign, it allows you to do all tasks (crud) from one screen and one tap:
http://bitshares-munich.de/docs/BitShares-Wallet-v1-beta1-contactsscreen-NEW.pdf
 
tapping on an avatar or anywhere in the middle column it will take you right to the existing send screen with the contact's info pre-filled for you.
 
the edit and delete buttons i added to the main contacts screen too so that you no longer have to go to a sub-screen.
 
the new contact button stays where it is up in the top right corner.
 
IMO, the less taps you have to go thru, the better.
colors help the eyes, lower the learning curve and really help the tech support people who want to walk someone thru it too.
 
midnight, goin to bed now..
 
edit: the yellow and red buttons are a good idea, but they're overbearing. Gonna simplify them a bit...
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Chris4210 on January 06, 2016, 08:37:39 am
Please support us with the future development of the Smartcoins Point of Sales System and the BitShares Wallet!

Special thanks goes to our two Gold Investors !! Thank you for your support  +5%

Quote
srndd         Gold
riverhead       Gold
make-tacos-not-war      Silver


Thank you all for your great support!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on January 06, 2016, 10:26:28 am
Please support us with the future development of the Smartcoins Point of Sales System and the BitShares Wallet!

Special thanks goes to our two Gold Investors !! Thank you for your support  +5%

Quote
srndd         Gold
riverhead       Gold
make-tacos-not-war      Silver


Thank you all for your great support!
How much fund have you raised?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 06, 2016, 10:43:42 am
added to roadmap:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20762.msg268174.html#msg268174
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Chris4210 on January 06, 2016, 10:54:42 am
Please support us with the future development of the Smartcoins Point of Sales System and the BitShares Wallet!

Special thanks goes to our two Gold Investors !! Thank you for your support  +5%

Quote
srndd         Gold
riverhead       Gold
make-tacos-not-war      Silver


Thank you all for your great support!
How much fund have you raised?

We raised a bit more than 8k EUR in the first two weeks. We reached 42% percent of our goal already!! Thanks to the great support of the community.

If we can raise the full 19k EUR in the next couple of days we can have the Smartcoins POS finished by March 2016!!

best regards,

Chris
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on January 06, 2016, 02:39:27 pm
Please support us with the future development of the Smartcoins Point of Sales System and the BitShares Wallet!

Special thanks goes to our two Gold Investors !! Thank you for your support  +5%

Quote
srndd         Gold
riverhead       Gold
make-tacos-not-war      Silver


Thank you all for your great support!
How much fund have you raised?

We raised a bit more than 8k EUR in the first two weeks. We reached 42% percent of our goal already!! Thanks to the great support of the community.

If we can raise the full 19k EUR in the next couple of days we can have the Smartcoins POS finished by March 2016!!

best regards,

Chris

Any articles on ccedk / yahoo finance / forbes / etc planned?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Chris4210 on January 07, 2016, 02:14:14 pm
HAPPY NEW YEAR BITSHARES!!
 
TOMORROW, FOR THREE HOURS ONLY!!
OPENPOS WILL BE OFFERED ONE LAST TIME AT DISCOUNT:

 
Starting at 1500(3pm) GMT until 1800(6pm) GMT.
Please join us tomorrow during the Beyond Bitcoin mumble to get the discount code! How? Just send BTS to account: bitshares-munich
..or send BTC (uses the Blocktrades Bridge) to: 1JoBEMa5YwCtmcxMneVQqWDaTaHH8k5VBK
Just PM me [member=38926]Chris4210X[/member] so that I know who sent what (please show proof) and where to send it. I will send you OPENPOS back within 24 hours.
 
Roughly $8k has been raised already in just the first days!
With only ~$11k remaining, let's make the BitShares mobile wallets and Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) systems a reality!!
We can have these systems rolling out to over 50K businesses by March!
 
Thank you for supporting the OPENPOS project! :D
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on January 08, 2016, 08:30:28 am
Some suggestions from Chinese community:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20919.msg270858.html#msg270858
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on January 08, 2016, 08:50:14 am
Some suggestions from Chinese community:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20919.msg270858.html#msg270858

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitsharestalk.org%2Findex.php%2Ftopic%2C20919.msg270858.html%23msg270858&edit-text=
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 08, 2016, 09:23:18 am
The google translation is terrible. Can you summarize what is being said or asked?
Thanx :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on January 09, 2016, 12:30:27 am
Hmm.. I missed last mumble session. Could someone please tell me is there anything new? Thanks.

The google translation is terrible. Can you summarize what is being said or asked?
Thanx :)
My English is not as good as google.. let me try:
* use your own faucet instead of the one provided by openledger for account registration, so you can earn more referral income
* market page: ask UIA issuers to pay for listing on a "recommended markets" page
* withdraw/deposit page: ask bridges/gateways to pay periodically for listing, sort the list in descending order by the amount of payment.

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就手机钱包而言,可以在钱包里固化新账户注册权,这样可以提成,然后还可以把默认交易市场进行招标,默认充值网关排序推广
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 09, 2016, 09:31:37 am
Once i get the website setup for the mobile wallets download, i will then look into becoming a registrar/faucet, but for now, using openledger is fine. 
 
A recommended markets page is a great idea, maybe [member=6]Stan[/member] could coordinate that? After the 10th when the OPENPOS token goes live on the dex, we really NEED as much help with marketing as possible. Please.
 
That third idea is brilliant. It would be almost like a paid advertising for them. Blocktrades and Metaexchange are really the only bridge choices right now though.. that I know of. Smartcoins POS will use the bridge too, not just the mobile wallets.
 
Thanx! :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on January 09, 2016, 02:11:40 pm
A recommended markets page is a great idea, maybe [member=6]Stan[/member] could coordinate that? After the 10th when the OPENPOS token goes live on the dex, we really NEED as much help with marketing as possible. Please.
The one is already in OpenLedger, the "favorite markets" page. For you who are developing a mobile wallet, you can have your own page inside the app.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: lil_jay890 on January 09, 2016, 02:31:45 pm
So I have been thinking about investing, but I am concerned with how much bitshares will actually be used by odoo terminals.  Is there any data on how many transactions per day in bitcoin are done on odoo?  Also, what is the typical profit generated per transaction on odoo? Are there any plans to promote bts use on odoo or is the goal just to get it on the terminals? Also can you break down how the 19k will be spent? Is it licensing fees to odoo or is it more for paying programmers for integration?  How difficult is the integration and what are some of the biggest challenges?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 09, 2016, 03:35:51 pm
So I have been thinking about investing, but I am concerned with how much bitshares will actually be used by odoo terminals.  Is there any data on how many transactions per day in bitcoin are done on odoo?  Also, what is the typical profit generated per transaction on odoo? Are there any plans to promote bts use on odoo or is the goal just to get it on the terminals? Also can you break down how the 19k will be spent? Is it licensing fees to odoo or is it more for paying programmers for integration?  How difficult is the integration and what are some of the biggest challenges?

Bitcoin is available as an add-on App with Revel (a competitor to Odoo (https://revelsystems.com/ipad-pos/bitcoin-integration)), but has received little fanfare in the research that I did when I was finding the best systems to get us integrated with.
 
I want Revel to wait a bit more before I approach them with our Smartcoins POS solution which will also support the Blocktrades bridge (which allows the merchant to accept Bitcoin, LTC, Doge, Dash, PPC, etc) - (That is a huge community who would love for our POS systems to also offer their coins!) Once we have the first 3 case studies rolling, we will use them as the example to close the deal for all of Odoo's competitors. Odoo will be first to market with this which is huge. Once Revel and others see that the volatility issue has been taken care of with Smartcoins, our "sell" is going to become much easier over the coming months.
 
As for transactions per day, their profit etc, I do not have access to that data. I do foresee us beating Visa and Mastercards fees substantially however, which after a while will make it much more attractive than credit cards. Smartcoins are the shit, the bees knees, it's a no-brainer for merchants once they see the benefits to offering them, ie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZw950LCifY&index=3&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7T2LvQ5VQVm5zbiXYXsEsbp
 
As for promoting Bitshares use on Odoo, we have a 3 part plan for that:
 
The 19K is the exact number that we need to finish the mobile wallets (android, iOS, windows, and hopefully Blackphone 2) and get the Smartcoins POS for Odoo finished (hopefully by March). As it looks right now, we are at about 10K of that 19K just in the first couple weeks so we are nearly there. We took quite a hit when that whale pulled out the other day but it is recovering again nicely now. 
 
All of my Devs are strategically located around the world. I keep a decentralized team for a number of reasons. I always use escrow and they must meet specific milestones before they are paid. I have been working with some of my Devs for many many years and they always strive for more work from me, so rest assured I have the best team money can buy. They don't whine about vacation time, or benefits, they just work their asses off and get the jobs done on time and on budget.
 
Difficulty? In over 20 years of outsourcing, I have never been confronted with a job that I could not complete on time or within budget. POS integrations and mobile wallets are no different.
 
Please help support us with the OPENPOS token if you can. Thank You!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: lil_jay890 on January 09, 2016, 03:49:21 pm
Thanks for the quick reply ken,

So to get this straight:

-the 19k is to develope a module for odoo and a mobile wallet... What sort of ROI am I going to get on the funds spent on the wallet?
-Odoo will not default their applications to support bts. It will be on a per install basis.
-since the main benefit of holding openpos is the fee collection, it is critical to know what the cost per transaction is, or at least what the total fees would be from say 1 month with 100 transactions.
-who gets the other 50% of fees and where are the collected fees stored prior to the buyback?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on January 09, 2016, 03:56:55 pm
Quote
What sort of ROI am I going to get on the funds spent on the wallet?

This is a funny question. The term of ROI is irrelevant to such way of raising capital. This is a loan with 0 interest at best, and more likely a donation. This is useful donation, but expecting any return of it is silly.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 09, 2016, 05:16:30 pm
Thanks for the quick reply ken,

So to get this straight:

-the 19k is to develope a module for odoo and a mobile wallet... What sort of ROI am I going to get on the funds spent on the wallet?
-Odoo will not default their applications to support bts. It will be on a per install basis.
-since the main benefit of holding openpos is the fee collection, it is critical to know what the cost per transaction is, or at least what the total fees would be from say 1 month with 100 transactions.
-who gets the other 50% of fees and where are the collected fees stored prior to the buyback?

All of the mobile wallets have an "Invite a Friend" button in the top right corner of the Contacts screen. From there, if you share the wallet with a friend you get Referrals. There's a lot of people in the Bitshares community who are not getting any referrals right now so I want to leverage that network effect.
 
The conversations that we have had with Odoo would imply that they are open to the idea of including cryptocurrency support in their default install, but these Case Studies I mentioned are imperative to sell them on the idea completely. Either way, the App will still be a free, and promoted install from their App store.
 
As for fees, the per-transaction fee will be in the range of .5 to 1%. So, if the customer buys an apple for $1 and there is 1% being taken as the OPENPOS fee for that transaction, then that 1% is split among the OPENPOS holders each month. I think people will buy more than 1 apple though. As I mentioned in mumble, Cox Communications uses Odoo as well, so this could essentially become a major value-add for a lot of different kinds of companies, not just supermarkets. Home shopping network could now allow their tv watchers to pay with Smartcoins to their account, ie: homeshopping88 - I think 1% is plenty.
 
Collected fees will be stored with the OPENPOS account and right now [member=38926]Chris4210X[/member] will be distributing them on a monthly basis just like Obits does it. (although we hope to have a script developed so that the process can be automated and Chris can have his life back).
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on January 09, 2016, 05:40:25 pm
So we'll get merchants. How about users?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Akado on January 09, 2016, 05:50:24 pm
So we'll get merchants. How about users?

Merchants can be the users, immediately converting to bitAssets, however I wouldn't bet much on that. It's awesome they can accept that as a form of payment but for that, someone must be willing to pay using those bitassets. To get people to use them would cost a fortune in marketing and education
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 09, 2016, 06:21:52 pm
So we'll get merchants. How about users?

Merchants can be the users, immediately converting to bitAssets, however I wouldn't bet much on that. It's awesome they can accept that as a form of payment but for that, someone must be willing to pay using those bitassets. To get people to use them would cost a fortune in marketing and education

I think the mobile wallets will help most with getting more users.
 
The biggest thing that concerns me is the smartcoins' pegs. But, with btsbots and what Blocktrades is working on right now, I have high hopes that In the coming weeks our smartcoins will get much tighter. I really don't know of any other way to make our smartcoins any better.
 
Smartcoins and POS go hand in hand IMO, it's the main thing Smartcoins should be used for. Buying stuff and not worrying so much about volatility.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Akado on January 09, 2016, 06:28:10 pm
So we'll get merchants. How about users?

Merchants can be the users, immediately converting to bitAssets, however I wouldn't bet much on that. It's awesome they can accept that as a form of payment but for that, someone must be willing to pay using those bitassets. To get people to use them would cost a fortune in marketing and education

I think the mobile wallets will help most with getting more users.
 
The biggest thing that concerns me is the smartcoins' pegs. But, with btsbots and what Blocktrades is working on right now, I have high hopes that In the coming weeks our smartcoins will get much tighter. I really don't know of any other way to make our smartcoins any better.
 
Smartcoins and POS go hand in hand IMO, it's the main thing Smartcoins should be used for. Buying stuff and not worrying so much about volatility.

It just needs to get rolling and the peg will (or should) naturally form. It's like you said, at the beggining we just need to buy some stuff here and there and try not to worry much about the peg. As soon as they have utility which they will have now, thing should go into place. btw check your pms
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on January 09, 2016, 09:43:24 pm
So we'll get merchants. How about users?

Merchants can be the users, immediately converting to bitAssets, however I wouldn't bet much on that. It's awesome they can accept that as a form of payment but for that, someone must be willing to pay using those bitassets. To get people to use them would cost a fortune in marketing and education

I think the mobile wallets will help most with getting more users.
 
The biggest thing that concerns me is the smartcoins' pegs. But, with btsbots and what Blocktrades is working on right now, I have high hopes that In the coming weeks our smartcoins will get much tighter. I really don't know of any other way to make our smartcoins any better.
 
Smartcoins and POS go hand in hand IMO, it's the main thing Smartcoins should be used for. Buying stuff and not worrying so much about volatility.

I would not worry about "smart"coin on place of merchant. I would issue my own coin, which is fully backed by my business.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 10, 2016, 09:04:41 am
I would not worry about "smart"coin on place of merchant. I would issue my own coin, which is fully backed by my business.

..which the Smartcoins POS supports by default. I have it set so that the code just loops through all of the (active) Smartcoins that have Holders >0 and Feed Price >0 and NOT “Settled” and sort them by name ascending.
 
In the POS settings, the merchant can also select a UIA that they would like to issue and accept (great for "rewards cards"). We loop through all of the (active) User-Issued Assets (UIA’s) that have Holders >3 and sort them by name ascending. For example:
 
(  ) OPENBTC (asset['options']['description'])
(  ) OPENDASH (asset['options']['description'])
(  ) MARRIOT.REWARDS (asset['options']['description'])
(x) STARBUCKS.REWARD (Cash in your Starbucks rewards for discounts!)
     [    ] STARBUCKS.REWARD for every $[           ] spent (over any timeframe).
 
This way, each time a customer buys something, the code can automatically issue some of their UIA to the customer after their purchase has been completed. The merchant can set how many to send and base it on amounts spent.
 
The mobile wallets of course incorporate this into the send and receive screens as you can see.
 
Please help support the OPENPOS token, I would really like to have these POS systems done by March!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on January 10, 2016, 04:15:10 pm
I would not worry about "smart"coin on place of merchant. I would issue my own coin, which is fully backed by my business.

..which the Smartcoins POS supports by default. I have it set so that the code just loops through all of the (active) Smartcoins that have Holders >0 and Feed Price >0 and NOT “Settled” and sort them by name ascending.
 
In the POS settings, the merchant can also select a UIA that they would like to issue and accept (great for "rewards cards"). We loop through all of the (active) User-Issued Assets (UIA’s) that have Holders >3 and sort them by name ascending. For example:
 
(  ) OPENBTC (asset['options']['description'])
(  ) OPENDASH (asset['options']['description'])
(  ) MARRIOT.REWARDS (asset['options']['description'])
(x) STARBUCKS.REWARD (Cash in your Starbucks rewards for discounts!)
     [    ] STARBUCKS.REWARD for every $[           ] spent (over any timeframe).
 
This way, each time a customer buys something, the code can automatically issue some of their UIA to the customer after their purchase has been completed. The merchant can set how many to send and base it on amounts spent.
 
The mobile wallets of course incorporate this into the send and receive screens as you can see.
 
Please help support the OPENPOS token, I would really like to have these POS systems done by March!

This is an extremely good job, I admit.  +5%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 10, 2016, 07:49:35 pm
This is an extremely good job, I admit.  +5%

Thank you [member=40079]yvv[/member] :)
 
also...
 
OPENPOS is now live on the DEx!! 8)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 13, 2016, 04:24:30 pm
The old delete button was bugging me so I moved it and a new edit button to the main contacts screen to reduce the number of taps needed. Tapping the trash can of course pops up a confirmation dialog first.
(http://i.imgur.com/QMkxkbR.png)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Akado on January 13, 2016, 04:37:19 pm
We're on the contacts section so it's black and underlined. Finder and Exchange are other sections that we're currently not seeing so they're grey. Why is "balances" black too? I think it should be grey as well?

I'm by no means any expert but since I studied it I always try to do a quick evaluation with the 10 Heuristics of Nielson
https://www.nngroup.com/articles/ten-usability-heuristics/
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 13, 2016, 05:17:20 pm
Grey links indicate a feature that is not yet enabled. 
LOTS of UI work still be done. I will release alpha 8 version on friday.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 15, 2016, 08:59:11 pm
To upgrade:
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on January 15, 2016, 09:17:41 pm
To upgrade:
  • Download alpha 8 release: http://bitshares-munich.de/bitshares-wallet/BitSharesWallet-v1-alpha8.apk
  • Install it right over the top of alpha 7 release
  • Write down your Brainkey (in Settings screen) and TRIPLE CHECK you wrote it down correctly!!
  • Uninstall the wallet completely (not really necessary, but right now it's the easiest way to clean up unused files)
  • Install alpha 8 again from scratch
  • Tap on Existing accounts and then tap on the first link in the following screen to type in your brainkey
  • Give it a few minutes to sync up and bring in all your balances and transactions
  • Done. This week we are doing even more UI work, upgrading the Contacts screen, etc :)

Translations ?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 15, 2016, 09:23:26 pm

Translations ?

Yep. Some, but not all. Still copying them out of the spreadsheet and into the json files. Will have more of them done this week too.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: onceuponatime on January 15, 2016, 09:49:06 pm
To upgrade:
  • Download alpha 8 release: http://bitshares-munich.de/bitshares-wallet/BitSharesWallet-v1-alpha8.apk
  • Install it right over the top of alpha 7 release
  • Write down your Brainkey (in Settings screen) and TRIPLE CHECK you wrote it down correctly!!
  • Uninstall the wallet completely (not really necessary, but right now it's the easiest way to clean up unused files)
  • Install alpha 8 again from scratch
  • Tap on Existing accounts and then tap on the first link in the following screen to type in your brainkey
  • Give it a few minutes to sync up and bring in all your balances and transactions
  • Done. This week we are doing even more UI work, upgrading the Contacts screen, etc :)

I'm not trying to be deliberately obtuse, but I can't find a "Settings scree" in my wallet.

Where to look?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 16, 2016, 07:26:56 am
I'm not trying to be deliberately obtuse, but I can't find a "Settings scree" in my wallet.
Where to look?

Bottom right corner, the gear icon.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 20, 2016, 06:53:05 pm
Just received the Smartcoins POS window decals today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTZSKaV9gvA&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0&index=4
 
This friday the 22nd I will try to upload the alpha 9 release of the mobile wallet for you guys too.
 
Please support the OPENPOS token guys, we need all the support we can get, please and thank you! :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: onceuponatime on January 20, 2016, 07:08:07 pm
Just received the Smartcoins POS window decals today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTZSKaV9gvA&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0&index=4
 
This friday the 22nd I will try to upload the alpha 9 release of the mobile wallet for you guys too.
 
Please support the OPENPOS token guys, we need all the support we can get, please and thank you! :)

How do I order some window decals?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 20, 2016, 07:16:11 pm
Once our new site is done, then yes, i will try to get them discounted via a vistaprint pro account and sell them online, but i also want them to be free for download as they are now on the forum:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20776.msg273323.html#msg273323
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Riverhead on January 20, 2016, 08:19:48 pm



Sweet! I will put the small one in the back window of my car :). Do you have any with a URL?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 20, 2016, 09:43:42 pm
Sweet! I will put the small one in the back window of my car :). Do you have any with a URL?

For cars too lol ok, never thought of that one but right on. These are the only ones i have designed right now, maybe after we get the first pos systems out there then i will do some bumper stickers and stuff too but i have to stay focused on the core project right now. Great idea though! :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on January 20, 2016, 09:53:51 pm
Sweet! I will put the small one in the back window of my car :). Do you have any with a URL?

For cars too lol ok, never thought of that one but right on. These are the only ones i have designed right now, maybe after we get the first pos systems out there then i will do some bumper stickers and stuff too but i have to stay focused on the core project right now. Great idea though! :)

"Excuse me Mr Officer, but can I pay the fine with BitGold instead?"
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 22, 2016, 05:49:07 pm
Friday's update: I hired an additional dev "Igor" to assist with the mobile wallets. Getting him up to speed since wednesday, so it pushed the mobile wallets alpha 9 release back by about 3 days. I will get alpha 9 out next week though. Adding this additional dev however now allows me to diversify our team a bit more and get more stuff built even faster than before.
 
oh, and Smartcoins POS is still on track for March. 8)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: jakub on January 23, 2016, 11:50:51 pm
[member=30868]kenCode[/member]
Are you going to release the source code for you mobile wallet?
(sorry if this question has already been answered)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 24, 2016, 06:57:01 am
[member=30868]kenCode[/member]
Are you going to release the source code for you mobile wallet?
(sorry if this question has already been answered)

Mornin [member=19939]jakub[/member] - yep, I upload it to my github page. Will do another upload of everything this friday after the alpha 9 build.
https://github.com/kenCode-de/bitshares-wallet
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 24, 2016, 07:43:14 am
I'm not a rich guy, but I too fyi am putting everything I can into this:
http://cryptofresh.com/u/kencode
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on January 24, 2016, 04:23:34 pm
How about the fund raising?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 24, 2016, 05:17:27 pm
If Chris and I are putting our personal money on the line too, it sets an example.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on January 24, 2016, 05:25:53 pm
You invest into obits more than into your own project. This looks irrational.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 24, 2016, 05:35:29 pm
I had more money then too.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 26, 2016, 12:40:46 pm
I will be uploading the alpha 9 release of the mobile wallet by this friday. Tons of UI stuff, qr code fixes are done now, making some tweaks to the send screen too, to allow for ideas that i had the odoo team add into the pos systems. "Overdraft Protection" will have to come in v1.1 or v1.2 as it was just too much code to cram into v1.0.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: mike623317 on January 26, 2016, 05:05:59 pm
Excellent ken
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 27, 2016, 01:41:28 pm
Thanx guys. :)
 
Question: Ok, so it has come to my attention that the mobile app will suck up over 400MB if left open for 20+ minutes, this is not good. The nice thing is that this is a real-time wallet, no refresh is needed- Watch the block number in the bottom right corner. When someone sends you some money it shows up in the normal 3 seconds. Thing is, that real-time connection is sucking up my data plan! This friday (2 more days) I will be uploading the alpha 9 release and it has the 3 minute auto-close feature working. That will help *limit* data usage, but leaving your mobile wallet open for even 3 minutes might STILL suck up around 60MB grrrr - anybody have any idea why the socket is eating so much data? Is it downloading a frign movie or something? wtf
 
[member=11456]svk[/member] [member=12639]valzav[/member] [member=120]xeroc[/member] Any ideas on how I can limit the data usage?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: ebit on January 27, 2016, 01:46:09 pm
 +5%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: svk on January 27, 2016, 02:10:55 pm
Thanx guys. :)
 
Question: Ok, so it has come to my attention that the mobile app will suck up over 400MB if left open for 20+ minutes, this is not good. The nice thing is that this is a real-time wallet, no refresh is needed- Watch the block number in the bottom right corner. When someone sends you some money it shows up in the normal 3 seconds. Thing is, that real-time connection is sucking up my data plan! This friday (2 more days) I will be uploading the alpha 9 release and it has the 3 minute auto-close feature working. That will help *limit* data usage, but leaving your mobile wallet open for even 3 minutes might STILL suck up around 60MB grrrr - anybody have any idea why the socket is eating so much data? Is it downloading a frign movie or something? wtf
 
[member=11456]svk[/member] [member=12639]valzav[/member] [member=120]xeroc[/member] Any ideas on how I can limit the data usage?

If you're using the websocket connection as is from the witness_node you'll get spammed with loads of object updates that you have no interest in. Your best bet would be to implement a data layer that would filter the objects coming from the witness node and then only send out updates to items that actually interest you.

For some reason on every new block the 2.4.33 or 2.4.34 objects get pushed from the witness_node, and it's a HUGE object containing feed data for every single asset. If you can filter out that you should be fine...

Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 27, 2016, 02:44:32 pm
Thanx guys. :)
 
Question: Ok, so it has come to my attention that the mobile app will suck up over 400MB if left open for 20+ minutes, this is not good. The nice thing is that this is a real-time wallet, no refresh is needed- Watch the block number in the bottom right corner. When someone sends you some money it shows up in the normal 3 seconds. Thing is, that real-time connection is sucking up my data plan! This friday (2 more days) I will be uploading the alpha 9 release and it has the 3 minute auto-close feature working. That will help *limit* data usage, but leaving your mobile wallet open for even 3 minutes might STILL suck up around 60MB grrrr - anybody have any idea why the socket is eating so much data? Is it downloading a frign movie or something? wtf
 
[member=11456]svk[/member] [member=12639]valzav[/member] [member=120]xeroc[/member] Any ideas on how I can limit the data usage?

If you're using the websocket connection as is from the witness_node you'll get spammed with loads of object updates that you have no interest in. Your best bet would be to implement a data layer that would filter the objects coming from the witness node and then only send out updates to items that actually interest you.

For some reason on every new block the 2.4.33 or 2.4.34 objects get pushed from the witness_node, and it's a HUGE object containing feed data for every single asset. If you can filter out that you should be fine...

Ok, so I'm not crazy, this is good stuff :)
Do you guys have any code examples of how we might implement these filters so we can keep data usage at a bare minimum? Thanx!
 
edit: i'm thinkin that in part this is also a reason why the responsiveness seems sluggish to me. the footprint is massive with all these objects you mentioned getting processed.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: xeroc on January 27, 2016, 03:28:18 pm
nothing you can do on your end since you have to receive the data before you can filter it ..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 27, 2016, 03:44:08 pm
ah snap, so then maybe we need to add something to the settings screen that forces wifi conn first, then if enabled, will try for mobile conn as a backup.
 
seriously there's no way to reduce the data usage at all then? :-X
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 27, 2016, 04:57:15 pm
Smartcoins POS for Odoo - Milestone 1 of 5 completed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMECm8bqKaE&index=5&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0
 
I'll try to have Milestone 2 of 5 done in the next couple weeks.
 
In the meantime, mobile wallets alpha 9 release will be out this friday (in 2 days), see comments above for details.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: svk on January 27, 2016, 06:15:26 pm
nothing you can do on your end since you have to receive the data before you can filter it ..
No there is, what I'm saying is he needs to filter the outgoing data from the witness node using a proxy server. A node websocket server using socket.io should do the trick. He would need to host his own witness_node then obviously.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 27, 2016, 07:11:21 pm
nothing you can do on your end since you have to receive the data before you can filter it ..
No there is, what I'm saying is he needs to filter the outgoing data from the witness node using a proxy server. A node websocket server using socket.io should do the trick. He would need to host his own witness_node then obviously.

So, I would need to have the mobile wallets all connect to one dedicated witness node? Could we just have a few/all of the Witnesses provide this as an option to their service? So, for mobile clients, the Witnesses will only serve up just the filtered stuff? Heck, this might be a great value-add for all Witnesses, no? Many more mobile wallets will be released after our I'm sure. Thoughts?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on January 27, 2016, 10:46:46 pm
nothing you can do on your end since you have to receive the data before you can filter it ..
No there is, what I'm saying is he needs to filter the outgoing data from the witness node using a proxy server. A node websocket server using socket.io should do the trick. He would need to host his own witness_node then obviously.

So, I would need to have the mobile wallets all connect to one dedicated witness node? Could we just have a few/all of the Witnesses provide this as an option to their service? So, for mobile clients, the Witnesses will only serve up just the filtered stuff? Heck, this might be a great value-add for all Witnesses, no? Many more mobile wallets will be released after our I'm sure. Thoughts?
Sounds like a paid service? Interesting..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: svk on January 28, 2016, 07:19:56 am
nothing you can do on your end since you have to receive the data before you can filter it ..
No there is, what I'm saying is he needs to filter the outgoing data from the witness node using a proxy server. A node websocket server using socket.io should do the trick. He would need to host his own witness_node then obviously.

So, I would need to have the mobile wallets all connect to one dedicated witness node? Could we just have a few/all of the Witnesses provide this as an option to their service? So, for mobile clients, the Witnesses will only serve up just the filtered stuff? Heck, this might be a great value-add for all Witnesses, no? Many more mobile wallets will be released after our I'm sure. Thoughts?

You don't connect to Witnesses, you connect to servers running the witness_node executable, such as wss://bitshares.openledger.info/ws. If you're serious about this mobile wallet you should probably provide such an API server yourself. If on the other hand you want to pay for that service you could probably find someone to do it for you..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 28, 2016, 07:28:31 am
right, but many more mobile wallets will be released after ours I'm sure.
 
how hard would it be to get the Witnesses to offer this level of service. i could code it so that the mobile wallets send a flag to the Witnesses saying "hey, i'm a mobile device, please filter out the big shit so my data plan isn't exhausted!" thoughts..?
 
let's encourage some other devs to make mobile wallets too...
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 29, 2016, 08:09:32 pm
We got the connection to Blocktrades working tonight so that now all POS systems can also accept Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dogecoin, Dash and the other top cryptos. This weekend will be doing a lot of UI cleanup. Will get the eReceipts and QR codes going next week and begin the customer/shopper screens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHOYG408ohg&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0&index=6
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: lil_jay890 on January 29, 2016, 08:21:31 pm
We got the connection to Blocktrades working tonight so that now all POS systems can also accept Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dogecoin, Dash and the other top cryptos. This weekend will be doing a lot of UI cleanup. Will get the eReceipts and QR codes going next week and begin the customer/shopper screens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHOYG408ohg&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0&index=6

Great job Ken.  I'm glad I'm invested in this project.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 29, 2016, 08:55:18 pm
Thanx so much [member=23744]lil_jay890[/member] :)
I'll try to get the alpha10 release of the mobile wallet uploaded here in an hour or so too before I go to bed.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: mf-tzo on January 29, 2016, 09:03:29 pm
[member=30868]kenCode[/member] probably this has been answered already...Buying OPENPOS token is what? a donation to the project or there is a business plan whereby OpenPOS holders earn future revenue from the transactions? If there is a business plan can you elaborate more?
thanks
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 29, 2016, 09:49:27 pm
The cleanest way to upgrade in these alpha stages:
goin to bed now..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: lil_jay890 on January 29, 2016, 09:55:19 pm
[member=30868]kenCode[/member] probably this has been answered already...Buying OPENPOS token is what? a donation to the project or there is a business plan whereby OpenPOS holders earn future revenue from the transactions? If there is a business plan can you elaborate more?
thanks

OPENPOS tokens are for the developement of a mobile wallet and integration of smartcoins in Odoo merchant terminals.  Odoo users will then be able to download the smartcoin app and start accepting smart coins.  Everytime Odoo does a smartcoin transaction, a 0.5% to 1% fee is charged.  50% of these fee's are used to buyback OPENPOS tokens.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Riverhead on January 29, 2016, 10:03:12 pm
Installed and running! Looks great! Now to send it some funds.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on January 29, 2016, 11:17:45 pm
[member=30868]kenCode[/member] probably this has been answered already...Buying OPENPOS token is what? a donation to the project or there is a business plan whereby OpenPOS holders earn future revenue from the transactions? If there is a business plan can you elaborate more?
thanks

They promise to buy back their tokens if they will ever make any profit. It is safe to think of it as of donation. Unlike some other crowdfunding tokens, this one is worth to support, since they are doing very important things for BTS echosystem. Will this project be successful or not, we will see soon.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on January 30, 2016, 01:51:28 pm
right, but many more mobile wallets will be released after ours I'm sure.
 
how hard would it be to get the Witnesses to offer this level of service. i could code it so that the mobile wallets send a flag to the Witnesses saying "hey, i'm a mobile device, please filter out the big shit so my data plan isn't exhausted!" thoughts..?
 
let's encourage some other devs to make mobile wallets too...
Anyone can run a full node to provide the service you need.
Responsibilities of "the witnesses" (if you mean the block producers) don't include providing API services to clients for sure. Hosted wallet service provider (E.G. OpenLedger) is most likely to provide such API service.
I see this service a business opportunity.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: konelectric on January 30, 2016, 10:18:56 pm
right, but many more mobile wallets will be released after ours I'm sure.
 
how hard would it be to get the Witnesses to offer this level of service. i could code it so that the mobile wallets send a flag to the Witnesses saying "hey, i'm a mobile device, please filter out the big shit so my data plan isn't exhausted!" thoughts..?
 
let's encourage some other devs to make mobile wallets too...

Hay ken,  I'm looking to buy some OPENPOS and testing out your wallet.  Any updates on solving this problem?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 31, 2016, 08:06:24 am
right, but many more mobile wallets will be released after ours I'm sure.
 
how hard would it be to get the Witnesses to offer this level of service. i could code it so that the mobile wallets send a flag to the Witnesses saying "hey, i'm a mobile device, please filter out the big shit so my data plan isn't exhausted!" thoughts..?
 
let's encourage some other devs to make mobile wallets too...

Hay ken,  I'm looking to buy some OPENPOS and testing out your wallet.  Any updates on solving this problem?

Of course and thanx for the interest! :)
OPENPOS is traded on the dex, but if you can do a large purchase then drop [member=38926]Chris4210[/member] a PM as he might be able to work a deal with you.
As for the mobile wallet, it is still just in alpha stages, lots of UI to clean up still:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20762.msg275600.html#msg275600
 
Thanx so much! :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 31, 2016, 04:52:24 pm
it has come to my attention that the mobile app will suck up over 400MB if left open for 20+ minutes, this is not good. The nice thing is that this is a real-time wallet, no refresh is needed- Watch the block number in the bottom right corner. When someone sends you some money it shows up in the normal 3 seconds. Thing is, that real-time connection is sucking up my data plan! This friday (2 more days) I will be uploading the alpha 9 release and it has the 3 minute auto-close feature working. That will help *limit* data usage, but leaving your mobile wallet open for even 3 minutes might STILL suck up around 60MB grrrr - anybody have any idea why the socket is eating so much data? Is it downloading a frign movie or something? wtf
[member=11456]svk[/member] [member=12639]valzav[/member] [member=120]xeroc[/member] Any ideas on how I can limit the data usage?
If you're using the websocket connection as is from the witness_node you'll get spammed with loads of object updates that you have no interest in. Your best bet would be to implement a data layer that would filter the objects coming from the witness node and then only send out updates to items that actually interest you.
For some reason on every new block the 2.4.33 or 2.4.34 objects get pushed from the witness_node, and it's a HUGE object containing feed data for every single asset. If you can filter out that you should be fine...

Anyone can run a full node to provide the service you need.
Responsibilities of "the witnesses" (if you mean the block producers) don't include providing API services to clients for sure. Hosted wallet service provider (E.G. OpenLedger) is most likely to provide such API service.
I see this service a business opportunity.

nothing you can do on your end since you have to receive the data before you can filter it ..
No there is, what I'm saying is he needs to filter the outgoing data from the witness node using a proxy server. A node websocket server using socket.io should do the trick. He would need to host his own witness_node then obviously.

So, I would need to have the mobile wallets all connect to one dedicated witness node? Could we just have a few/all of the Witnesses provide this as an option to their service? So, for mobile clients, the Witnesses will only serve up just the filtered stuff? Heck, this might be a great value-add for all Witnesses, no? Many more mobile wallets will be released after our I'm sure. Thoughts?
Sounds like a paid service? Interesting..

[member=11456]svk[/member] [member=18687]abit[/member] [member=120]xeroc[/member] [member=5]bytemaster[/member] As more mobile wallets get out there (well, and regular wallets too), I can see the bandwidth requirements at the Witness nodes going up substantially. Witness pay is low enough as it is, so we'd better address this bandwidth issue sooner than later. Better to fix these issues now rather than wait until thousands of people have their wallets all open at the same time and Witnesses become inaccessible, can't afford to serve it up, etc. Thanx for any attention you can give to this issue soon guys please :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on January 31, 2016, 05:08:44 pm
it has come to my attention that the mobile app will suck up over 400MB if left open for 20+ minutes, this is not good. The nice thing is that this is a real-time wallet, no refresh is needed- Watch the block number in the bottom right corner. When someone sends you some money it shows up in the normal 3 seconds. Thing is, that real-time connection is sucking up my data plan! This friday (2 more days) I will be uploading the alpha 9 release and it has the 3 minute auto-close feature working. That will help *limit* data usage, but leaving your mobile wallet open for even 3 minutes might STILL suck up around 60MB grrrr - anybody have any idea why the socket is eating so much data? Is it downloading a frign movie or something? wtf
[member=11456]svk[/member] [member=12639]valzav[/member] [member=120]xeroc[/member] Any ideas on how I can limit the data usage?
If you're using the websocket connection as is from the witness_node you'll get spammed with loads of object updates that you have no interest in. Your best bet would be to implement a data layer that would filter the objects coming from the witness node and then only send out updates to items that actually interest you.
For some reason on every new block the 2.4.33 or 2.4.34 objects get pushed from the witness_node, and it's a HUGE object containing feed data for every single asset. If you can filter out that you should be fine...

Anyone can run a full node to provide the service you need.
Responsibilities of "the witnesses" (if you mean the block producers) don't include providing API services to clients for sure. Hosted wallet service provider (E.G. OpenLedger) is most likely to provide such API service.
I see this service a business opportunity.

nothing you can do on your end since you have to receive the data before you can filter it ..
No there is, what I'm saying is he needs to filter the outgoing data from the witness node using a proxy server. A node websocket server using socket.io should do the trick. He would need to host his own witness_node then obviously.

So, I would need to have the mobile wallets all connect to one dedicated witness node? Could we just have a few/all of the Witnesses provide this as an option to their service? So, for mobile clients, the Witnesses will only serve up just the filtered stuff? Heck, this might be a great value-add for all Witnesses, no? Many more mobile wallets will be released after our I'm sure. Thoughts?
Sounds like a paid service? Interesting..

[member=11456]svk[/member] [member=18687]abit[/member] [member=120]xeroc[/member] [member=5]bytemaster[/member] As more mobile wallets get out there (well, and regular wallets too), I can see the bandwidth requirements at the Witness nodes going up substantially. Witness pay is low enough as it is, so we'd better address this bandwidth issue sooner than later. Better to fix these issues now rather than wait until thousands of people have their wallets all open at the same time and Witnesses become inaccessible, can't afford to serve it up, etc. Thanx for any attention you can give to this issue soon guys please :)
Ken, you quoted my message but didn't understand it imo.

Witnesses have nothing to do with this bandwidth issue. It's up to online service providers for example OpenLedger to consider it. Witnesses don't provide a service to let your mobile wallet be able to connect to, but OpenLedger does.

Witnesses care more about bandwidth increasing caused by amount of transactions increasing though.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: xeroc on January 31, 2016, 06:12:52 pm
it has come to my attention that the mobile app will suck up over 400MB if left open for 20+ minutes, this is not good. The nice thing is that this is a real-time wallet, no refresh is needed- Watch the block number in the bottom right corner. When someone sends you some money it shows up in the normal 3 seconds. Thing is, that real-time connection is sucking up my data plan! This friday (2 more days) I will be uploading the alpha 9 release and it has the 3 minute auto-close feature working. That will help *limit* data usage, but leaving your mobile wallet open for even 3 minutes might STILL suck up around 60MB grrrr - anybody have any idea why the socket is eating so much data? Is it downloading a frign movie or something? wtf
[member=11456]svk[/member] [member=12639]valzav[/member] [member=120]xeroc[/member] Any ideas on how I can limit the data usage?
If you're using the websocket connection as is from the witness_node you'll get spammed with loads of object updates that you have no interest in. Your best bet would be to implement a data layer that would filter the objects coming from the witness node and then only send out updates to items that actually interest you.
For some reason on every new block the 2.4.33 or 2.4.34 objects get pushed from the witness_node, and it's a HUGE object containing feed data for every single asset. If you can filter out that you should be fine...

Anyone can run a full node to provide the service you need.
Responsibilities of "the witnesses" (if you mean the block producers) don't include providing API services to clients for sure. Hosted wallet service provider (E.G. OpenLedger) is most likely to provide such API service.
I see this service a business opportunity.

nothing you can do on your end since you have to receive the data before you can filter it ..
No there is, what I'm saying is he needs to filter the outgoing data from the witness node using a proxy server. A node websocket server using socket.io should do the trick. He would need to host his own witness_node then obviously.

So, I would need to have the mobile wallets all connect to one dedicated witness node? Could we just have a few/all of the Witnesses provide this as an option to their service? So, for mobile clients, the Witnesses will only serve up just the filtered stuff? Heck, this might be a great value-add for all Witnesses, no? Many more mobile wallets will be released after our I'm sure. Thoughts?
Sounds like a paid service? Interesting..

[member=11456]svk[/member] [member=18687]abit[/member] [member=120]xeroc[/member] [member=5]bytemaster[/member] As more mobile wallets get out there (well, and regular wallets too), I can see the bandwidth requirements at the Witness nodes going up substantially. Witness pay is low enough as it is, so we'd better address this bandwidth issue sooner than later. Better to fix these issues now rather than wait until thousands of people have their wallets all open at the same time and Witnesses become inaccessible, can't afford to serve it up, etc. Thanx for any attention you can give to this issue soon guys please :)
Block producing witnesses should be hidden from proxies and not be uses to run a web wallet ...

Instread most businesses in BTS have a reason to run their own witness node(s) to be more reliable and faster.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on January 31, 2016, 06:32:05 pm
I would think that most businesses (including my own) have no desire to run a Witness though. Nevermind the need to be tech savvy on it, have the time to manage it, and so on. Business owners other things to worry about.
 
[member=5]bytemaster[/member] mentioned that this was "a known issue" in the last mumble, is there any way we can get this issue on the table sooner rather than later? I can't afford to burn through hundreds of Megabytes in my data plan. Please and thanx guys
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: svk on January 31, 2016, 08:05:58 pm
I would think that most businesses (including my own) have no desire to run a Witness though. Nevermind the need to be tech savvy on it, have the time to manage it, and so on. Business owners other things to worry about.
 
[member=5]bytemaster[/member] mentioned that this was "a known issue" in the last mumble, is there any way we can get this issue on the table sooner rather than later? I can't afford to burn through hundreds of Megabytes in my data plan. Please and thanx guys

We're not saying you have to run a Witness, we're saying run a witness_node (which is simply the executable that lets you sync and interface with the blockchain).

That being said, I looked into this and identified a bug which is why BM said it's a known issue. I created an issue that theoretical made an initial commit for but that didn't do the trick, so hopefully he'll have another look. Track this to view the progress:

https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/issues/540
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 01, 2016, 06:39:15 am
Thanx! I just subscribed to it :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 05, 2016, 09:02:20 pm
The cleanest way to upgrade in these alpha stages:
I hope to have these (droid/iOS/Win) wallets out of alpha and into beta for the masses by end of next week. Wish us luck! :)
goin to bed now..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: bitacer on February 07, 2016, 12:17:24 pm
Ken , please check this out : http://148.88.67.49/barter/  they use pos system in local economies . very interesting
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 11, 2016, 04:20:28 pm
I know it's not pretty yet, but we are getting functionality in there first. Getting the QR codes running in Odoo now, streamlining the menu structure, encoding the eReceipts and getting the specific Smartcoin or Altcoin to show up on the paper receipt.. lots of work goin on :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4zeRuzeDGA&index=9&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 13, 2016, 08:31:37 am
The cleanest way to upgrade in these alpha stages:
This is basically the first "beta" release, but I do not want to put the word beta on it until we have the translations finished. I will upload a "beta 1" early next week, probably by wednesday, but if you do not need a language other than english, then this alpha 12 will work great for you.
 
Once we have all 22 translations in there, then I will upload the BitShares Wallet v1.0 beta 1, probably by wed or thu this week. 8)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on February 13, 2016, 02:46:08 pm
Ken, how is the f-droid publishing situation going?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 13, 2016, 06:17:08 pm
Ken, how is the f-droid publishing situation going?

Once we are out of beta, I will try to publish to f-droid on the same day I publish the mobile wallet to apple and google apps stores.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on February 15, 2016, 02:09:48 pm
Awesome +5%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 15, 2016, 07:53:18 pm
Bitshares is on a nice little pump again, please help support the OPENPOS token as much as you can.
There are four markets now available in the dex:

Please, Thank You and PLEASE HELP SPREAD THE WORD!! :)
 
Update: We're lookin good, still on track for the public beta launch this friday the 19th.
All 22 languages are completed/included.
Plus the packages for iOS/iPhones, Windows Phone, Android and F-Droid app stores!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Pheonike on February 16, 2016, 12:15:57 am
Maybe in the version are you to give the app a material design overhaul?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 16, 2016, 06:14:39 am
Maybe in the version are you to give the app a material design overhaul?

Yes. I am hoping by v2.0, as long as funds allow.
 
Please help spread the word of the OPENPOS token, thanx! :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 17, 2016, 06:56:59 pm
We now have all of the BitShares Smartcoins, Bitcoin, Dash, Dogecoin and a few others now running in the Point Of Sale (POS) systems. The eReceipts are being sent thru the QR codes too, but mycelium, dash and doge wallets don't seem to support eReceipts, oh well. It's not pretty yet, but it works. In Milestone 3 of 5 we will get the customer loyalty "Rewards Card" assets running to reward customers for their purchases at a store. These credits show up automatically in the BitShares wallet and allow the customer to get discounts on their subsequent visits. Milestone 3 will also have the Equivalent Value api running which will log the current fiat price at that moment for tax and accounting export/purposes. Then, on to the Overdraft Protection algo and so on... Busy busy busy :)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja9a_4Skt0k&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0&index=10
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 19, 2016, 07:29:08 pm
Quick update: We will launch the BitShares mobile wallet v1.0 beta 1 tomorrow (saturday).
 
The release of the Odoo POS will be pushed back by 1 week (till the end of this month basically).
 
The Rewards Card and Overdraft Protection stuff that I came up with for the POS systems was not something that I had invented in time for the v1.0 roadmap for the mobile wallets. So, what I decided to do was to push the Odoo POS back a week so that we can knock those 2 features out in a v1.1 release of the mobile wallets, then, have the ability to test it out on the POS systems. Yeah, it pushed things back a week but I think having overdraft protection in the wallet and the ability to reward loyal customers with some uia (ie: MARRIOT.REWARDS) is worth it. Sorry for the holdup guys but I think you're gonna really like this :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on February 20, 2016, 09:31:41 am
Ken, exciting news!

Out of curiosity, how many merchants do you know in Munich who use Odoo at the PoS?

Is it common at all? I never bothered investigating which software is being run there.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 20, 2016, 10:45:27 am
Smartcoins POS - "ACCEPTED HERE" stickers and window decals
 
Video that gives you an idea which size you should get:
Window Decals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTZSKaV9gvA&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0&index=4
 
Here is the link to Vistaprint (use Firefox!) where you can "Use your complete design", upload the pdf and have it printed:
Window Decals: http://www.vistaprint.co.uk/window-decals.aspx#design-options
Small Stickers: http://www.vistaprint.co.uk/studio.aspx?template=36349_AAX&ag=True
Large Stickers: http://www.vistaprint.co.uk/studio.aspx?template=279654_AB2&ag=True
 
Here are the originals in case you want to edit the text or create more languages:
http://BitShares-Munich.de/img/_masters/Smartcoins-POS-stickers/src/large.eps
http://BitShares-Munich.de/img/_masters/Smartcoins-POS-stickers/src/large.pdf
http://BitShares-Munich.de/img/_masters/Smartcoins-POS-stickers/src/large.svg
http://BitShares-Munich.de/img/_masters/Smartcoins-POS-stickers/src/small.eps
http://BitShares-Munich.de/img/_masters/Smartcoins-POS-stickers/src/small.pdf
http://BitShares-Munich.de/img/_masters/Smartcoins-POS-stickers/src/small.svg
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http://BitShares-Munich.de/img/_masters/Smartcoins-POS-window-decals/src/large.eps
http://BitShares-Munich.de/img/_masters/Smartcoins-POS-window-decals/src/large.pdf
http://BitShares-Munich.de/img/_masters/Smartcoins-POS-window-decals/src/large.svg
http://BitShares-Munich.de/img/_masters/Smartcoins-POS-window-decals/src/small.eps
http://BitShares-Munich.de/img/_masters/Smartcoins-POS-window-decals/src/small.pdf
http://BitShares-Munich.de/img/_masters/Smartcoins-POS-window-decals/src/small.svg
 
LARGE and SMALL stickers: LARGE (horizontal) and SMALL window decals: Example:
(http://i.imgur.com/s5yJQKW.jpg)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 20, 2016, 08:45:43 pm
THIS IS IT!!
This is the official beta of the BitShares Wallet for Android. I am going to leave the word "beta" on here even though we have not had a single problem with it, even across all the alpha releases, just minor UI stuff which we cleaned up.
 
I created my AppleID today and enrolled in the Apple Developer Program, paid the 99€ so that we can upload the wallet and get it to the masses (IN 22 LANGUAGES TOO!). I hear it can take a couple of months for them to approve new apps for their app stores but nonetheless, you will now see the BitShares Wallet in the google play, apple, windows and f-droid app stores very soon.
 
This is the final version that you will see for a while. All of the alphas have worked great, no losses or bugs have been found (but of course only keep funds in a wallet that you can afford to lose). Nonetheless, I think you'll like it, we have not had a single issue.
What's next?
v1.1 will come in a few weeks. We are going to try to improve reading of the (very dense) QR codes, implement a callback feature so that the POS systems are notified the moment a payment is received, implement Rewards Card functionality with the POS systems, the new Overdraft Protection feature will be implemented (in case you don't have enough funds, you can set the wallet to auto-draw from other balances (thanks to Blocktrades!)) and a few more translations, etc.
v1.2 will give you the ability to set preferred API Connection (wss) in App Settings, allow upsizing your account to LTM, and run MUCH faster (right now each block is around 200K I think, eating cpu and bandwidth).
 
If funds allow (please support the OPENPOS token!)...
v2.0 will implement the Finder screen, local trading, maps api, Meetups api, etc.
v3.0 will implement the basic Exchange screen (will probably use highcharts or metatrader style for mobile)
 
Please spread the word, this is it!!
 
Distribute the file, link to it, email it to your friends overseas, Tweet it, host a local Meetup... IT'S TIME!! :D
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: sudo on February 21, 2016, 02:39:27 am
font is too small for phone
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 21, 2016, 09:02:56 am
font is too small for phone

funny, I was just thinking the same thing last night. In v1.1 I will definitely enlarge things a bit and make the layout a bit cleaner. If OPENPOS funds allow, I would like to implement google material design principles too. The screen you are looking at right now is the one that I designed and obviously I am no designer, so I want to get my ui/ux people busy on that.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on February 21, 2016, 06:29:49 pm
Hey, nice job! Put a link to download on front page at bitshares-munich.de.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 21, 2016, 08:08:34 pm
Hey, nice job! Put a link to download on front page at bitshares-munich.de.

Thanx! 
We'll get our new site up in a couple weeks with that and a lot more... :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: tbone on February 21, 2016, 09:09:49 pm
font is too small for phone

funny, I was just thinking the same thing last night. In v1.1 I will definitely enlarge things a bit and make the layout a bit cleaner. If OPENPOS funds allow, I would like to implement google material design principles too. The screen you are looking at right now is the one that I designed and obviously I am no designer, so I want to get my ui/ux people busy on that.

[member=30868]kenCode[/member] - The important thing is that you have made tremendous progress and the wallet works!   As I'm sure you know, having someone polish up the UI is the relatively easy part, but of course will go a long way toward turning this into a very professional looking product that can attract new users and generally have a very additive effect on the ecosystem. 

Speaking of the interface, what is your timeline for providing a simple UI for your wallet users to convert BTS to BitAssets and vice versa?  I'm thinking something along the lines of coinbase where they enable the user to either a) enter how much bitcoin they want to to buy and then it shows them how much it would cost them at the current price, or b) enter how much they would like to spend on bitcoin, and then it shows them how much bitcoin they can buy with that budget at the current price. 

Having such a simplified interface to exchange assets within your mobile wallet would be absolutely killer.  Although of course for it to be completely useful to both your wallet users and merchants alike, we need to have A LOT more BitAssets created.  With that in mind, what are your thoughts about [member=32211]Empirical1.2[/member]'s very interesting ideas to incentivize the creation of large quantities of BitAssets?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 22, 2016, 06:20:56 am
font is too small for phone

funny, I was just thinking the same thing last night. In v1.1 I will definitely enlarge things a bit and make the layout a bit cleaner. If OPENPOS funds allow, I would like to implement google material design principles too. The screen you are looking at right now is the one that I designed and obviously I am no designer, so I want to get my ui/ux people busy on that.

[member=30868]kenCode[/member] - The important thing is that you have made tremendous progress and the wallet works!   As I'm sure you know, having someone polish up the UI is the relatively easy part, but of course will go a long way toward turning this into a very professional looking product that can attract new users and generally have a very additive effect on the ecosystem. 

Speaking of the interface, what is your timeline for providing a simple UI for your wallet users to convert BTS to BitAssets and vice versa?  I'm thinking something along the lines of coinbase where they enable the user to either a) enter how much bitcoin they want to to buy and then it shows them how much it would cost them at the current price, or b) enter how much they would like to spend on bitcoin, and then it shows them how much bitcoin they can buy with that budget at the current price. 

Having such a simplified interface to exchange assets within your mobile wallet would be absolutely killer.  Although of course for it to be completely useful to both your wallet users and merchants alike, we need to have A LOT more BitAssets created.  With that in mind, what are your thoughts about [member=32211]Empirical1.2[/member]'s very interesting ideas to incentivize the creation of large quantities of BitAssets?

Thanx tbone, yeah I admit, I am no UI guy. If funding will allow then I will have a professional material design ui replace the one I have in there now. The layout can stay pretty much the same, but make it look a LOT cleaner. We also need to get those block sizes down so the wallet will speed up. Right now it's slow as shit and bugs the hell out of me. Anyway, I have plenty of gripes, just see my post above in the whats next section.
 
The Exchange screen will cover your second question, but we do not have the funding for that. I am hoping our market cap will go up a bit to give us the money we need for v2.0, v3.0 and beyond. Right now, my biggest focus is to get the wallet to v1.1 and v1.2 (we do have the funding for that) and get the POS systems launched. The way it looks right now, we can launch both in just a couple more weeks. Odoo is just about done, but I want to add a couple features to the wallet and POS before I release those apps. Again, see my whats next section above.
 
As for Empirical's ideas for bitassets, I have not had time to read every post here, so let's hope Smartcoins take off. These POS systems and mobile wallet are just the start for bringing in real utility for the masses.
 
PLEASE HELP SUPPORT THE OPENPOS TOKEN THANK YOU :) 
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: tonyk on February 22, 2016, 06:55:04 am
We also need to get those block sizes down so the wallet will speed up. Right now it's slow as shit and bugs the hell out of me.

wait, how, no...
It is the 100,000 tps network  working at 0.0001tps
no... this is just fud.

Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 22, 2016, 07:19:16 am
We also need to get those block sizes down so the wallet will speed up. Right now it's slow as shit and bugs the hell out of me.

wait, how, no...
It is the 100,000 tps network  working at 0.0001tps
no... this is just fud.

I can't remember which core dev told me that, but it's true. Each block is around 200K. That is a lot of bandwidth needed and cpu power to process each of them. BM himself said it was a known issue and it's already on github somewhere too, so they are working on it.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: jernau on February 22, 2016, 04:43:20 pm
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/issues/540 is the issue in question
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 22, 2016, 05:33:17 pm
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/issues/540 is the issue in question

yep, that's the one :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: pam2 on February 24, 2016, 01:34:43 am
THIS IS IT!!
This is the official beta of the BitShares Wallet for Android. I am going to leave the word "beta" on here even though we have not had a single problem with it, even across all the alpha releases, just minor UI stuff which we cleaned up.
 
I created my AppleID today and enrolled in the Apple Developer Program, paid the 99€ so that we can upload the wallet and get it to the masses (IN 22 LANGUAGES TOO!). I hear it can take a couple of months for them to approve new apps for their app stores but nonetheless, you will now see the BitShares Wallet in the google play, apple, windows and f-droid app stores very soon.
 
This is the final version that you will see for a while. All of the alphas have worked great, no losses or bugs have been found (but of course only keep funds in a wallet that you can afford to lose). Nonetheless, I think you'll like it, we have not had a single issue.
  • If applicable: Write down your Brainkey (in Settings screen) and TRIPLE CHECK you wrote it down correctly!!
  • If applicable: Do a fresh Backup to bin file as well.
  • If applicable: Uninstall any alpha releases completely (MANDATORY)
  • Download the BitShares Wallet: http://bitshares-munich.de/bitshares-wallet/BitSharesWallet-v1.0-beta.apk
  • Install it (check out AJ's video! https://youtu.be/lqEJejg-k1I?list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0)
  • If applicable: Tap on Existing accounts and then tap on the first link in the following screen to type in your brainkey
  • Give it a few minutes to sync up (and (if applicable) bring in all your balances and transactions)
  • Done.

What's next?
v1.1 will come in a few weeks. We are going to try to improve reading of the (very dense) QR codes, implement a callback feature so that the POS systems are notified the moment a payment is received, implement Rewards Card functionality with the POS systems, the new Overdraft Protection feature will be implemented (in case you don't have enough funds, you can set the wallet to auto-draw from other balances (thanks to Blocktrades!)) and a few more translations, etc.
v1.2 will give you the ability to set preferred API Connection (wss) in App Settings, allow upsizing your account to LTM, and run MUCH faster (right now each block is around 200K I think, eating cpu and bandwidth).
 
If funds allow (please support the OPENPOS token!)...
v2.0 will implement the Finder screen, local trading, maps api, Meetups api, etc.
v3.0 will implement the basic Exchange screen (will probably use highcharts or metatrader style for mobile)
 
Please spread the word, this is it!!
 
Distribute the file, link to it, email it to your friends overseas, Tweet it, host a local Meetup... IT'S TIME!! :D

Great job to kencode and his team. I'm new in the forum and I've been following the development of Bitshares Wallet & POS. This will bring Bitshares to another level.  I'm from Montreal (Canada) and I'm planning to start a Bitshares meetup group here in 2 weeks.  I found  that some stores, small businesses and not for profit organization have Odoo and at times request volunteers at universities to help customize or develop some features using python.  I'will be getting in contact with those organization and share the idea of Smartcoins/Crypto payment and get them discover BitShares POS .
 This is very exciting! Bitshares platform brings solutions to small businesses.   As ByteMaster use to say, it's not about trading, it's about solving real issues small businesses and in people face daily.  This is were Bitshares protocol wins.  I've gone through it for a while and get to know how businesses can quickly build on it (small business, start-up, NGO, cooperatives etc.). Bitshares blockchain with UIA and Reward base system are well align with cooperative laws here in Quebec. More than 60% of Canadian Co-op companies are base in Quebec province and I'm looking forward to develop strong relationships that would bring some in Bitshares BlockChain.
Great work guys!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 24, 2016, 07:21:02 am

Great job to kencode and his team. I'm new in the forum and I've been following the development of Bitshares Wallet & POS. This will bring Bitshares to another level.  I'm from Montreal (Canada) and I'm planning to start a Bitshares meetup group here in 2 weeks.  I found  that some stores, small businesses and not for profit organization have Odoo and at times request volunteers at universities to help customize or develop some features using python.  I'will be getting in contact with those organization and share the idea of Smartcoins/Crypto payment and get them discover BitShares POS .
 This is very exciting! Bitshares platform brings solutions to small businesses.   As ByteMaster use to say, it's not about trading, it's about solving real issues small businesses and in people face daily.  This is were Bitshares protocol wins.  I've gone through it for a while and get to know how businesses can quickly build on it (small business, start-up, NGO, cooperatives etc.). Bitshares blockchain with UIA and Reward base system are well align with cooperative laws here in Quebec. More than 60% of Canadian Co-op companies are base in Quebec province and I'm looking forward to develop strong relationships that would bring some in Bitshares BlockChain.
Great work guys!

Hi [member=41636]pam2[/member] and welcome to BitShares! :)
 
BitShares Montreal sounds awesome!!! Here are a couple others that are now forming:
http://bitshares.meetup.com - These may give you an idea of how to set yours up. I have a graphics guy that could make your header graphic for the page too if you like, no charge, just let me know.
 
Thanx for the compliment on the mobile wallet. It is a start, but I have a lot on the roadmap for it over the coming weeks.
 
As for the Smartcoins POS for Odoo, that is another one of our projects (it is still being funded via the OPENPOS token that you will see in the dex). Odoo is a great Point Of Sale system and we are working on milestone 3 of 5 right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHOYG408ohg&index=6&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0
 
If you ever have questions about any BitShares products, you can also skype or telegram me at:
kenCode_de
 
Thanx so much pam2 and again, Welcome!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Akado on February 24, 2016, 09:22:52 am
Is there a way to confirm the software on Google play is the right one, Made by you? At the moment there is only one but in the future other similar wallets with malicious code could appear. Recently polo had an app there but it was a fake one

Also, on the portuguese translation. Smartcoins is plural, it can be "aceites", bitcoin is singular and should be "aceite" instead of "aceites"
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 24, 2016, 10:27:51 am
Is there a way to confirm the software on Google play is the right one, Made by you? At the moment there is only one but in the future other similar wallets with malicious code could appear. Recently polo had an app there but it was a fake one

Also, on the portuguese translation. Smartcoins is plural, it can be "aceites", bitcoin is singular and should be "aceite" instead of "aceites"

Well, we are going to link to the app from our website, plus in the app storedescription itself we will link toourwebsite. Thank u for the help with the Portuguese too! :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: chryspano on February 24, 2016, 06:07:03 pm
We also need to get those block sizes down so the wallet will speed up. Right now it's slow as shit and bugs the hell out of me.

wait, how, no...
It is the 100,000 tps network  working at 0.0001tps


0,36 transactions per hour??

no... this is just fud

Yes, I fully agree!

Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 24, 2016, 06:13:16 pm
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/issues/540 is the issue in question

yep, that's the one :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: pam2 on February 25, 2016, 02:55:03 am

Great job to kencode and his team. I'm new in the forum and I've been following the development of Bitshares Wallet & POS. This will bring Bitshares to another level.  I'm from Montreal (Canada) and I'm planning to start a Bitshares meetup group here in 2 weeks.  I found  that some stores, small businesses and not for profit organization have Odoo and at times request volunteers at universities to help customize or develop some features using python.  I'will be getting in contact with those organization and share the idea of Smartcoins/Crypto payment and get them discover BitShares POS .
 This is very exciting! Bitshares platform brings solutions to small businesses.   As ByteMaster use to say, it's not about trading, it's about solving real issues small businesses and in people face daily.  This is were Bitshares protocol wins.  I've gone through it for a while and get to know how businesses can quickly build on it (small business, start-up, NGO, cooperatives etc.). Bitshares blockchain with UIA and Reward base system are well align with cooperative laws here in Quebec. More than 60% of Canadian Co-op companies are base in Quebec province and I'm looking forward to develop strong relationships that would bring some in Bitshares BlockChain.
Great work guys!

Hi [member=41636]pam2[/member] and welcome to BitShares! :)
 
BitShares Montreal sounds awesome!!! Here are a couple others that are now forming:
http://bitshares.meetup.com - These may give you an idea of how to set yours up. I have a graphics guy that could make your header graphic for the page too if you like, no charge, just let me know.
 
Thanx for the compliment on the mobile wallet. It is a start, but I have a lot on the roadmap for it over the coming weeks.
 
As for the Smartcoins POS for Odoo, that is another one of our projects (it is still being funded via the OPENPOS token that you will see in the dex). Odoo is a great Point Of Sale system and we are working on milestone 3 of 5 right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHOYG408ohg&index=6&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0
 
If you ever have questions about any BitShares products, you can also skype or telegram me at:
kenCode_de
 
Thanx so much pam2 and again, Welcome!

Thks Kencode, will keep u inform on how things are moving. Will also get some OPENPOS to support the project.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 25, 2016, 06:31:50 am

Great job to kencode and his team. I'm new in the forum and I've been following the development of Bitshares Wallet & POS. This will bring Bitshares to another level.  I'm from Montreal (Canada) and I'm planning to start a Bitshares meetup group here in 2 weeks.  I found  that some stores, small businesses and not for profit organization have Odoo and at times request volunteers at universities to help customize or develop some features using python.  I'will be getting in contact with those organization and share the idea of Smartcoins/Crypto payment and get them discover BitShares POS .
 This is very exciting! Bitshares platform brings solutions to small businesses.   As ByteMaster use to say, it's not about trading, it's about solving real issues small businesses and in people face daily.  This is were Bitshares protocol wins.  I've gone through it for a while and get to know how businesses can quickly build on it (small business, start-up, NGO, cooperatives etc.). Bitshares blockchain with UIA and Reward base system are well align with cooperative laws here in Quebec. More than 60% of Canadian Co-op companies are base in Quebec province and I'm looking forward to develop strong relationships that would bring some in Bitshares BlockChain.
Great work guys!

Hi [member=41636]pam2[/member] and welcome to BitShares! :)
 
BitShares Montreal sounds awesome!!! Here are a couple others that are now forming:
http://bitshares.meetup.com - These may give you an idea of how to set yours up. I have a graphics guy that could make your header graphic for the page too if you like, no charge, just let me know.
 
Thanx for the compliment on the mobile wallet. It is a start, but I have a lot on the roadmap for it over the coming weeks.
 
As for the Smartcoins POS for Odoo, that is another one of our projects (it is still being funded via the OPENPOS token that you will see in the dex). Odoo is a great Point Of Sale system and we are working on milestone 3 of 5 right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHOYG408ohg&index=6&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0
 
If you ever have questions about any BitShares products, you can also skype or telegram me at:
kenCode_de
 
Thanx so much pam2 and again, Welcome!

Thks Kencode, will keep u inform on how things are moving. Will also get some OPENPOS to support the project.

Thanx so much pam2 much appreciated :)
You'll see the OPENPOS token in the wallet trade screens (the "dex") in 4 different markets:
OPENPOS : USD
OPENPOS : BTS
OPENPOS : CNY
OPENPOS : BTC
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 27, 2016, 10:10:12 am
The BitShares Wallet is now live in these App Stores: Google Play, Apple App Store, and Windows Phone Store are in progress, they just need to approve the app before they will publish it for download from there, but at least we are now on F-Droid and Aptoide so far..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: liondani on February 27, 2016, 12:37:37 pm
The BitShares Wallet is now live in these App Stores:
  • F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=bitshares&fdid=de.bitsharesmunich.wallet
  • Aptoide: http://bitsharesmunich.store.aptoide.com/app/market/de.bitsharesmunich.wallet/10000/17942434/BitShares+Wallet
Google Play, Apple App Store, and Windows Phone Store are in progress, they just need to approve the app before they will publish it for download from there, but at least we are now on F-Droid and Aptoide so far..

when I go to https://bitsharesmunich.store.aptoide.com/account/login
I get this annoying message:

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fJU1sQ21B1Y/VtGYY7yBJiI/AAAAAAAADik/d-SZyc_ft-s/s1600/kencode.png)


please fix ASAP!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 27, 2016, 01:10:07 pm
That website is not ours, it belongs to aptoide.com and we have no way to fix it.
Their android app is sure nice though.
 
On a positive note, I hope to also get our apps published in a few of these other stores in the coming weeks too:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-app-stores/
 
edit: added digitaltrends link
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: pc on February 27, 2016, 02:31:15 pm
Hi guys,

I installed the mobile wallet on my phone this morning and wanted to give some feedback.

* When I launched it for the first time after installing I got an error message about some file not being found. Didn't write down what it was. Subsequent launches worked.
* It's sloooow. Network connection is my home WLAN, so that shouldn't be a problem. Right after starting it syncs quickly, but then the block count falls behind.
* Why can't I use a longer PIN?
* On the main page beside / below my account name there's a QR code and something that looks suspiciously like a private key. Is that my actual wallet private key? Meaning anyone who can see me using the app can potentially copy it?
* Small mistranslation in the German version: in the tx list from/to should be translated as Von/An, not Von/Bis.

That's about it for my first impression. Thanks a lot, and keep up the good work!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 27, 2016, 02:45:22 pm
Thanx pc, I will try to cram most of that into v1.1 in a few weeks after we get the Odoo POS  stuff finished up.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on February 28, 2016, 11:55:26 am
The BitShares Wallet is now live in these App Stores:
  • F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=bitshares&fdid=de.bitsharesmunich.wallet

If you were a woman I'd KISS you!

:D

Well done ken, well done!!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on February 28, 2016, 12:07:35 pm
Ok, spoke too soon :P

I installed from f-droid, it doesn't go past the splash screen, been there for 5 minutes, no network activity that I could detect. It's just.. there.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on February 28, 2016, 01:00:56 pm
F-Droid builds directly from the github repo, not sure what they are doing wrong. All the files are in the repo too.
I have contacted them, hopefully they will resolve it asap. Just use the apk for now.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 01, 2016, 03:09:18 pm
Ok, we figured out the problem with the F-Droid and Aptoide app stores. Only part of the repo was accessible so the plugins, app.js and a few other tidbits were missing, so the apk that they were distributing was only half of what should have been there. Anyway, we just got the github repo updated with everything a couple hours ago, and we are now re-publishing to those 2 app stores and a few others this week..... :)
https://github.com/kenCode-de/bitshares-wallet
 
edit: https://github.com/kenCode-de/bitshares-wallet/releases
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 01, 2016, 09:15:53 pm
The BitShares Wallet v1.0.1 for Android (~28MB) has now been submitted successfully to:
The BitShares Wallet v1.0.1 for iPhone:
We are currently finishing the Apple build and already managed to build the app and run it on iPhone simulator. When we get completed (with incessant issues which is inevitable when dealing with Apple) then we are going to deploy it to the AppStore for so-called test-flight by this friday the 4th. Once it is tested internally, it's then submitted for final approval.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on March 03, 2016, 03:52:25 pm
I'll install 1.0.1 from fdroid asap ken, and let you know if it progresses past the splash now.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 04, 2016, 06:22:42 am
Well, we were rejected for the Amazon app store, so need to resubmit there. Totally unsure why too, as they do not provide a reason other than this: 
 
Thank you for your recent submission of BitShares Wallet (package: de.bitsharesmunich.wallet). It requires your immediate attention due to the following reason(s):

Hello,
We are contacting you regarding an application that you have submitted for sale through the Amazon Mobile App Distribution Program.

Your application contains content that violates our content guidelines or your Mobile App Distribution Agreement with us. You can find our content guidelines here: https://developer.amazon.com/help/faq.html#Approval. As a result, we have rejected your application.

If we find future instances where submitted content does not comply with our content guidelines or your App Distribution and Services Agreement with us, we may terminate your Amazon Mobile App Distribution Program account.

Title Rejected: <Bitshares Wallet>

Please do not resubmit this app or similar apps in the future.

Best regards, Amazon Apps Team

-----------------------------------

Please correct the issue(s) we found with your app submission.

After you have made the updates, you may re-submit a new version of the app, along with any metadata updates (small icon, large icon, screenshots, descriptions, etc.) using the Amazon Mobile App Distribution Portal.

If you have any questions about your app, please use the Contact Us link in your Distribution Portal account: https://developer.amazon.com/help/contact-us.html.

Sincerely,

Your Amazon Mobile App Distribution Team

 
I will spend some time today and try to find out what they want us to change. I think it's worth it to get listed in Amazon.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: konelectric on March 04, 2016, 06:56:23 pm
Well, we were rejected for the Amazon app store, so need to resubmit there. Totally unsure why too, as they do not provide a reason other than this: 
 
Thank you for your recent submission of BitShares Wallet (package: de.bitsharesmunich.wallet). It requires your immediate attention due to the following reason(s):

Hello,
We are contacting you regarding an application that you have submitted for sale through the Amazon Mobile App Distribution Program.

Your application contains content that violates our content guidelines or your Mobile App Distribution Agreement with us. You can find our content guidelines here: https://developer.amazon.com/help/faq.html#Approval. As a result, we have rejected your application.

If we find future instances where submitted content does not comply with our content guidelines or your App Distribution and Services Agreement with us, we may terminate your Amazon Mobile App Distribution Program account.

Title Rejected: <Bitshares Wallet>

Please do not resubmit this app or similar apps in the future.

Best regards, Amazon Apps Team

-----------------------------------

Please correct the issue(s) we found with your app submission.

After you have made the updates, you may re-submit a new version of the app, along with any metadata updates (small icon, large icon, screenshots, descriptions, etc.) using the Amazon Mobile App Distribution Portal.

If you have any questions about your app, please use the Contact Us link in your Distribution Portal account: https://developer.amazon.com/help/contact-us.html.

Sincerely,

Your Amazon Mobile App Distribution Team

 
I will spend some time today and try to find out what they want us to change. I think it's worth it to get listed in Amazon.

[member=7312]ElMato[/member]
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 04, 2016, 07:03:04 pm
The BitShares Wallet v1.0.1 for Android (~25MB) has now been submitted successfully to:
The BitShares Wallet v1.0.1 for iPhone:
We are currently finishing the Apple build and already managed to build the app and run it on iPhone simulator. When we get completed (with incessant issues which is inevitable when dealing with Apple) then we are going to deploy it to the AppStore for so-called test-flight tomorrow (saturday the 5th). Once it is tested internally, it's then submitted for final approval.
 
edit: and if Apple gives us a hard time, there might be some alternatives (just like the above sites):
https://www.google.de/search?q=alternative+iOS+iPhone+iPad+app+stores+jailbreak
 
edit2: Apparently, Amazon rejected our mobile wallet because they do not allow any cryptocurrency apps:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmobile-apps&field-keywords=bitcoin
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmobile-apps&field-keywords=litecoin
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmobile-apps&field-keywords=dogecoin
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Erlich Bachman on March 04, 2016, 08:28:25 pm
Get Gems pulled off an iPhone APP, so it's definitely precidented
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on March 05, 2016, 02:41:02 pm
Well, we were rejected for the Amazon app store, so need to resubmit there. Totally unsure why too, as they do not provide a reason other than this: 
 
Thank you for your recent submission of BitShares Wallet (package: de.bitsharesmunich.wallet). It requires your immediate attention due to the following reason(s):

Hello,
We are contacting you regarding an application that you have submitted for sale through the Amazon Mobile App Distribution Program.

Your application contains content that violates our content guidelines or your Mobile App Distribution Agreement with us. You can find our content guidelines here: https://developer.amazon.com/help/faq.html#Approval. As a result, we have rejected your application.

If we find future instances where submitted content does not comply with our content guidelines or your App Distribution and Services Agreement with us, we may terminate your Amazon Mobile App Distribution Program account.

Title Rejected: <Bitshares Wallet>

Please do not resubmit this app or similar apps in the future.

Best regards, Amazon Apps Team

-----------------------------------

Please correct the issue(s) we found with your app submission.

After you have made the updates, you may re-submit a new version of the app, along with any metadata updates (small icon, large icon, screenshots, descriptions, etc.) using the Amazon Mobile App Distribution Portal.

If you have any questions about your app, please use the Contact Us link in your Distribution Portal account: https://developer.amazon.com/help/contact-us.html.

Sincerely,

Your Amazon Mobile App Distribution Team

 
I will spend some time today and try to find out what they want us to change. I think it's worth it to get listed in Amazon.
WTF is this? No any useful info attached. Even "Please do not resubmit this app or similar apps in the future."

Anyway, to ken: great job!  +5%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode on March 05, 2016, 03:12:21 pm
Ah well... go into the fine print.. make sure you checkbox all the necessary points and go at it again.

Good luck!  +5%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 06, 2016, 07:53:17 am
thanx guys :)
 
hey could i get our Android wallet (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bitsharesmunich.wallet) listed on this page?? https://bitshares.org/download/ - from what i hear, IOS will take a couple of months to be approved by Apple, but at least we can get the android wallet posted there.. not sure who to ask
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: xeroc on March 06, 2016, 10:28:15 am
hey could i get our Android wallet (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bitsharesmunich.wallet) listed on this page?? https://bitshares.org/download/ - from what i hear, IOS will take a couple of months to be approved by Apple, but at least we can get the android wallet posted there.. not sure who to ask
The mobile wallet is a 3rd party software .. I'd be happy to add a link to the bts-munich page and let people know that you have a mobile wallet ..
But we need to make very clear somehow that this piece of software is provided by bts-munich and not bitshares.org ..

Do you have a distinct page for it already?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 06, 2016, 10:54:07 am
hey could i get our Android wallet (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bitsharesmunich.wallet) listed on this page?? https://bitshares.org/download/ - from what i hear, IOS will take a couple of months to be approved by Apple, but at least we can get the android wallet posted there.. not sure who to ask
The mobile wallet is a 3rd party software .. I'd be happy to add a link to the bts-munich page and let people know that you have a mobile wallet ..
But we need to make very clear somehow that this piece of software is provided by bts-munich and not bitshares.org ..

Do you have a distinct page for it already?

Cool, I'll try to get a new btsmuc page up this week then that you can link to, thanx [member=120]xeroc[/member] :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: pc on March 06, 2016, 01:49:04 pm
  • Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bitsharesmunich.wallet

I re-installed and got an error message again.Wrote it down this time:

Quote
The connection to the server was unsuccessful. (file:///android_asset/www/index.html)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 06, 2016, 03:27:17 pm
  • Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bitsharesmunich.wallet

I re-installed and got an error message again.Wrote it down this time:

Quote
The connection to the server was unsuccessful. (file:///android_asset/www/index.html)

hmm, looks like a net issue. in v1.2 we are adding a feature in the settings screen that allows you to set a different wss address.
for now, turn off mobile data and just use wifi. we need to see why the connection was unsuccessful.. mobile connection? your local wifi/isp issue? websockets are blocked? a specific port range is blocked? if that doesn't connect you to the network, then this must be something deeper than just your net connection.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on March 06, 2016, 03:29:46 pm
When I try to import my wallet, it asks me for pin code. What is this? I did not set up no pin code.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 06, 2016, 03:35:07 pm
When I try to import my wallet, it asks me for pin code. What is this? I did not set up no pin code.

yeah, i'm thinking of changing that, and just stick with the passphrase standard.
keep in mind, mobile wallets should be thought of as hot wallets, don't use a hot wallet for your net worth, just use it for local trades. it's best to register a separate account just for your mobile stuff. mobile wallets are great for meetup groups and soon points of sale too :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on March 06, 2016, 03:40:13 pm
When I try to import my wallet, it asks me for pin code. What is this? I did not set up no pin code.

yeah, i'm thinking of changing that, and just stick with the passphrase standard.
keep in mind, mobile wallets should be thought of as hot wallets, don't use a hot wallet for your net worth, just use it for local trades. it's best to register a separate account just for your mobile stuff. mobile wallets are great for meetup groups and soon points of sale too :)

Yes, I understand this. Thanks for reminder. This should be clearly written in product description.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 07, 2016, 05:57:06 pm
In case you want some Smartcoin stickers or window decals, I just received a few in the mail and they look pretty good :)
 
In the marketing thread:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21754.0.html
 
and a couple videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTS8ACTDHro&index=11&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0
 
In the next day or two I will demo the new rewards card features for you guys with the wallet and pos :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: mf-tzo on March 07, 2016, 06:03:03 pm
[member=30868]kenCode[/member] unless I missed it somewhere the mobile wallet is not yet available in windows phones right? I can't find anything when I search for the app from my mobile. Do you know when this will be available?
thanks!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 07, 2016, 06:12:04 pm
[member=30868]kenCode[/member] unless I missed it somewhere the mobile wallet is not yet available in windows phones right? I can't find anything when I search for the app from my mobile. Do you know when this will be available?
thanks!

This wednesday or thursday we will have the final details hammered out for those 2 app stores, both.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: mf-tzo on March 07, 2016, 06:13:20 pm
you are the Man!  +5% +5%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 07, 2016, 06:28:43 pm
The BitShares Wallet v1.0.1 for Android (~25MB) has now been submitted successfully to:
The BitShares Wallet v1.0.1 for iOS and Windows Mobile:
We hit some snags with the code for iOS but have coded some traps to help it along. This wednesday or thursday we should have it out of the simulators and ready to go for all current versions of those platforms and will then be submitted to them for approval the same day.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: pc on March 07, 2016, 07:39:17 pm
Quote
The connection to the server was unsuccessful. (file:///android_asset/www/index.html)

hmm, looks like a net issue. in v1.2 we are adding a feature in the settings screen that allows you to set a different wss address.
for now, turn off mobile data and just use wifi. we need to see why the connection was unsuccessful.. mobile connection? your local wifi/isp issue? websockets are blocked? a specific port range is blocked? if that doesn't connect you to the network, then this must be something deeper than just your net connection.

I was on my home WLAN. Mobile data connection not enabled. I don't have problems accessing any other sites from the same network, including openledger.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Erlich Bachman on March 07, 2016, 08:56:24 pm
kick ass Ken Code!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: konelectric on March 07, 2016, 11:41:53 pm
In case you want some Smartcoin stickers or window decals, I just received a few in the mail and they look pretty good :)
 
In the marketing thread:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21754.0.html
 
and a couple videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTS8ACTDHro&index=11&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0
 
In the next day or two I will demo the new rewards card features for you guys with the wallet and pos :)

Awesome, I watch your video and posted a comment.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 08, 2016, 06:40:51 am
Thanx guys :)
 
[member=94]pc[/member] the only thing I can think of that would deny your connection then if it's not a port, ip block, lan or wan issue is the Witness node itself that is giving you the conn issue. In v1.2 we will have the ability in the settings screen to choose a different Witness node though. I hope that helps and am sorry to hear that you can't connect. I have mentioned it to my devs too.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 08, 2016, 01:17:46 pm
Getting some more work done on wallet v1.1, gonna speed up the qr code reading, testing out the rewards card feature, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENobIc3dCZ4&index=12&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0
 
Will try to post another video this week too demonstrating the new overdraft protection feature in v1.1.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 11, 2016, 07:54:07 pm
iOS/iPhone work going on all weekend..
(http://i.imgur.com/cLVpR8Z.jpg)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 13, 2016, 07:21:13 am
The BitShares Wallet v1.0.1 for Android (~25MB) has now been submitted successfully to:
The BitShares Wallet v1.0.1 for iOS and Windows Mobile (as you can see above) is in progress, just need to get the brainkey and UI done for those platforms now. We're getting close..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on March 13, 2016, 12:20:16 pm
Ken, any idea why the f-droid version is (still) at 1.0.0 presently?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 13, 2016, 12:30:15 pm
Ken, any idea why the f-droid version is (still) at 1.0.0 presently?

yeah, i asked them the same thing. they are not crawling the repo. the repo is pushing 1.0.1.
i will email them again later this week if i don't get a reply. I'd say check it again this friday, they will probably update again by then.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on March 13, 2016, 01:23:52 pm
Ken, any idea why the f-droid version is (still) at 1.0.0 presently?

yeah, i asked them the same thing. they are not crawling the repo. the repo is pushing 1.0.1.
i will email them again later this week if i don't get a reply. I'd say check it again this friday, they will probably update again by then.

Awesome K, thanks for the update.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: tbone on March 13, 2016, 03:04:42 pm
The BitShares Wallet v1.0.1 for Android (~25MB) has now been submitted successfully to:
  • Amazon: Rejected (they do not allow cryptocurrency apps)
  • AppsZoom: http://www.appszoom.com/android-app/bitshares-wallet-tzumj.html
  • App Annie stats: https://www.appannie.com/apps/google-play/app/de.bitsharesmunich.wallet/
  • Aptoid: http://bitsharesmunich.store.aptoide.com/app/market/de.bitsharesmunich.wallet/100012
  • F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=bitshares&fdid=de.bitsharesmunich.wallet
  • Fossdroid: https://fossdroid.com/a/bitshares-wallet.html
  • Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bitsharesmunich.wallet
  • Slide.me: http://slideme.org/application/bitshares-wallet
  • Yandex: https://store.yandex.com
The BitShares Wallet v1.0.1 for iOS and Windows Mobile (as you can see above) is in progress, just need to get the brainkey and UI done for those platforms now. We're getting close..

Hey [member=30868]kenCode[/member], I thought the version you submitted on 3/7 was 1.0.1. 
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 13, 2016, 05:45:30 pm
The first beta, and the first upload to f-droid were all 1.0.0. Every upload since then has been 1.0.1.
I'm hoping when we release v1.1 to google play that most users will be able to just get the update automatically after it is approved. This will make all of our releases from here on out a hell of a lot easier. I think I still have some old beta links floating around the forum here still too, tried to find them with the forum search thing at the top but not having not much luck with that, so not sure.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on March 14, 2016, 10:09:34 am
An user complained that unable to transfer more than 1000 BTS with mobile wallet.  On the confirmation page, it shows amount = 0.00000.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 14, 2016, 01:36:11 pm
An user complained that unable to transfer more than 1000 BTS with mobile wallet.  On the confirmation page, it shows amount = 0.00000.

Known issue, and already on the roadmap for v1.1. The wallet does not let you send more than 999 of an asset at a time. Should be a couple weeks and I'll release v1.1, have crammed a bunch more stuff into this release with it and hopefully the speed issue will be fixed by then too :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 16, 2016, 09:48:09 am
Rewards card functionality is now done, it works in v1.1 of the mobile wallet, the standalone pos and also Odoo POS. This way when you buy something at a store with your mobile wallet, the merchant can automatically send you some of their chosen/created UIA to reward you based on your purchases at that store. The merchant can also set how much to send, how much can be redeemed and even set amounts that you have to spend to qualify for certain rewards.
 
Lots of UI work being worked on right now.
 
The core code for mobile wallet Overdraft Protection is now done too. It allows your wallet to draw from your other desired balances should you not have enough to pay when you are being billed at a store. This will also be released with mobile wallet v1.1 in a few weeks (i know i know i said a couple weeks but I keep cramming more stuff into v1.1, i figured what the hell we might as well make the update worthwhile for as many people as possible).

The ability to spend more than 999 of a given asset or coin has also been fixed.
 
We have also doubled the speed of QR code reading, as it's taking like 10 seconds right now which will never work at any POS. I think once that "Witness spamming too much data" issue on github is fixed too, that will dramatically speed up the mobile wallets as well, cut down on cpu and bandwidth usage etc.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Stan on March 16, 2016, 12:07:45 pm
Rewards card functionality is now done, it works in v1.1 of the mobile wallet, the standalone pos and also Odoo POS. This way when you buy something at a store with your mobile wallet, the merchant can automatically send you some of their chosen/created UIA to reward you based on your purchases at that store. The merchant can also set how much to send, how much can be redeemed and even set amounts that you have to spend to qualify for certain rewards.
 
Lots of UI work being worked on right now.
 
The core code for mobile wallet Overdraft Protection is now done too. It allows your wallet to draw from your other desired balances should you not have enough to pay when you are being billed at a store. This will also be released with mobile wallet v1.1 in a few weeks (i know i know i said a couple weeks but I keep cramming more stuff into v1.1, i figured what the hell we might as well make the update worthwhile for as many people as possible).

The ability to spend more than 999 of a given asset or coin has also been fixed.
 
We have also doubled the speed of QR code reading, as it's taking like 10 seconds right now which will never work at any POS. I think once that "Witness spamming too much data" issue on github is fixed too, that will dramatically speed up the mobile wallets as well, cut down on cpu and bandwidth usage etc.

[member=30868]kenCode[/member],

You are blowing me away with your productivity and innovation.  +1

What features of the blockchain did you use to implement this
... or is it all code in the app on the individual's phone or is some of it on your web server?

Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on March 16, 2016, 12:45:10 pm
+5%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 16, 2016, 01:21:38 pm
Rewards card functionality is now done, it works in v1.1 of the mobile wallet, the standalone pos and also Odoo POS. This way when you buy something at a store with your mobile wallet, the merchant can automatically send you some of their chosen/created UIA to reward you based on your purchases at that store. The merchant can also set how much to send, how much can be redeemed and even set amounts that you have to spend to qualify for certain rewards.
 
Lots of UI work being worked on right now.
 
The core code for mobile wallet Overdraft Protection is now done too. It allows your wallet to draw from your other desired balances should you not have enough to pay when you are being billed at a store. This will also be released with mobile wallet v1.1 in a few weeks (i know i know i said a couple weeks but I keep cramming more stuff into v1.1, i figured what the hell we might as well make the update worthwhile for as many people as possible).

The ability to spend more than 999 of a given asset or coin has also been fixed.
 
We have also doubled the speed of QR code reading, as it's taking like 10 seconds right now which will never work at any POS. I think once that "Witness spamming too much data" issue on github is fixed too, that will dramatically speed up the mobile wallets as well, cut down on cpu and bandwidth usage etc.

[member=30868]kenCode[/member],

You are blowing me away with your productivity and innovation.  +1

What features of the blockchain did you use to implement this
... or is it all code in the app on the individual's phone or is some of it on your web server?

thanx guys
 
[member=6]Stan[/member] - all of it. check out my github, we will be committing a buncha more stuff over the coming week too (https://github.com/kenCode-de?tab=repositories). as for the code, everything is run locally so there is no server to trust. we got our new website ready for launch today too, but since it is in 44 languages i want to get a few of the translations finished up before i upload everything and redirect the dns to evennode.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: lil_jay890 on March 16, 2016, 02:32:48 pm
Rewards card functionality is now done, it works in v1.1 of the mobile wallet, the standalone pos and also Odoo POS. This way when you buy something at a store with your mobile wallet, the merchant can automatically send you some of their chosen/created UIA to reward you based on your purchases at that store. The merchant can also set how much to send, how much can be redeemed and even set amounts that you have to spend to qualify for certain rewards.
 
Lots of UI work being worked on right now.
 
The core code for mobile wallet Overdraft Protection is now done too. It allows your wallet to draw from your other desired balances should you not have enough to pay when you are being billed at a store. This will also be released with mobile wallet v1.1 in a few weeks (i know i know i said a couple weeks but I keep cramming more stuff into v1.1, i figured what the hell we might as well make the update worthwhile for as many people as possible).

The ability to spend more than 999 of a given asset or coin has also been fixed.
 
We have also doubled the speed of QR code reading, as it's taking like 10 seconds right now which will never work at any POS. I think once that "Witness spamming too much data" issue on github is fixed too, that will dramatically speed up the mobile wallets as well, cut down on cpu and bandwidth usage etc.

[member=30868]kenCode[/member],

You are blowing me away with your productivity and innovation.  +1

What features of the blockchain did you use to implement this
... or is it all code in the app on the individual's phone or is some of it on your web server?

thanx guys
 
[member=6]Stan[/member] - all of it. check out my github, we will be committing a buncha more stuff over the coming week too (https://github.com/kenCode-de?tab=repositories). as for the code, everything is run locally so there is no server to trust. we got our new website ready for launch today too, but since it is in 44 languages i want to get a few of the translations finished up before i upload everything and redirect the dns to evennode.

Ken is the man!  I feel very confident investing in OPENPOS
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 16, 2016, 06:31:37 pm
The BitShares Wallet v1.0.1 for Android (~25MB) has now been submitted successfully to:
The BitShares Wallet v1.0.1 for iOS and Windows Mobile is in progress, just need to get the brainkey and UI done for those platforms now. We're getting close..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on March 16, 2016, 07:38:30 pm
Outstanding Ken. Looking forward for when fdroid updates and give this a test spin again +5%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: pam2 on March 16, 2016, 09:01:53 pm
Rewards card functionality is now done, it works in v1.1 of the mobile wallet, the standalone pos and also Odoo POS. This way when you buy something at a store with your mobile wallet, the merchant can automatically send you some of their chosen/created UIA to reward you based on your purchases at that store. The merchant can also set how much to send, how much can be redeemed and even set amounts that you have to spend to qualify for certain rewards.
 
Lots of UI work being worked on right now.
 
The core code for mobile wallet Overdraft Protection is now done too. It allows your wallet to draw from your other desired balances should you not have enough to pay when you are being billed at a store. This will also be released with mobile wallet v1.1 in a few weeks (i know i know i said a couple weeks but I keep cramming more stuff into v1.1, i figured what the hell we might as well make the update worthwhile for as many people as possible).

The ability to spend more than 999 of a given asset or coin has also been fixed.
 
We have also doubled the speed of QR code reading, as it's taking like 10 seconds right now which will never work at any POS. I think once that "Witness spamming too much data" issue on github is fixed too, that will dramatically speed up the mobile wallets as well, cut down on cpu and bandwidth usage etc.

Wow!  +5% +5% +5%
Together with OpenLedger, PeerTracks & Identabit; our POS project is one of Bitshare's Horsemen in the Decentralize Economy. Next week I will be joining a crypto-enthusiast meetup here at in Montreal (Bitcoin Embassy). BitShares is in agenda. Will demo our DEX & Mobile Wallet. Just need to make work on my phone. Last week I got my first Bitshares meetup at Bitcoin Embassy with 6 crypto-enthusiats. They were really surprise to hear about Bitshares and all the projects going on.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 17, 2016, 06:22:10 am
Thanx [member=41636]pam2[/member] - just be forewarned, the mobile wallet is REEEEALLY slow right now. In v1.1 it should be at least double that speed though, so we are well aware of the speed issues and huge amount of data that it uses right now (so use wifi when using the mobile wallet). After the upcoming hardfork I will release v1.1 about a week after that.
 
[member=33020]karnal[/member] - F-Droid *should* build the 1.0.1 version now "within the next 72 hours" and make it available for download.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on March 17, 2016, 07:41:56 am
Cool Ken, so safe to say the slowness issue should be resolved around early April?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 17, 2016, 10:14:59 am
Cool Ken, so safe to say the slowness issue should be resolved around early April?

No promises, but with the witness spamming too much data issue fixed soon, and with the slightly improved qr code reading (my ultimate goal is to get it under 1 second, but those version 10 qr codes are fukn dense man so it's very hard to "speed" up a camera and it's underlying scanner software) , and the barebones ui it should certainly help. As soon as I can grab some more gains from a BTS pump, I am starting immediately on a second mobile wallet too, all material design principles in it, which will run native on iOS (high priority) and droids.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 19, 2016, 07:18:38 am
I think we got our first iPhone beta released this morning. Maurits is testing out the ipa file right now and should have a report for me on it by monday or tuesday. Our Apple account is just waiting for the file, so should be any day now we have an iOS release. Tomas is getting the github page all squared away this weekend too, we have like 5 projects being posted there right now from different teams. Oh yeah, I should have another video ready for you guys by this evening, demonstrating the new qr code reading, callbacks to the POS systems, Overdraft Protection, faster UI, and the Rewards Card features integrated with both the mobile wallets and POS systems.

edit: we'll have the next video uploaded monday night. the weather is REALLY nice this weekend, gotta get away from the screens for a bit.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 22, 2016, 08:36:56 pm
Here's some screenshots of the iPhone version 1.0.1 and a HUGE thanx and shout out for Maurits ([member=221]mauritso[/member]) who helped us get it out of the alpha releases!
 
(http://i.imgur.com/biQHjXt.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/WXKNwFz.jpg)
 
..and soon Smartcoins POS:
 
(http://i.imgur.com/5aRowPK.png)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Erlich Bachman on March 23, 2016, 08:59:42 am
Its that bar from Back to the Future!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: ncinic on March 23, 2016, 10:59:03 am
Last one to go is windows mobile, any updates?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 23, 2016, 11:20:06 am
Last one to go is windows mobile, any updates?

I wish we could have done windows mobile too, but the problems with Apache Cordova and Phonegap are now very apparent. The code is totally open source like I want, so I encourage people to copy it and make it better: https://github.com/kenCode-de/bitshares-wallet
 
Now that we have a working mobile wallet for both of the main platforms I am pouring all of my energy into the different POS systems now. BM has stated that building liquidity is high priority, so with these free apps available to merchants as either a standalone system or an integrated system such as Odoo (to be released in another week or so), this will definitely give people thousands of places to spend their Smartcoins and altcoins (such as btc, ltc, doge, etc).
 
I will also have stealth features built into the wallets with the v1.2 release. Oh and v1.1 is due in a week or so.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on March 23, 2016, 10:08:37 pm
Ken, can you upload binaries to Github, like those in https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-2/releases ?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 24, 2016, 07:19:12 am
Ken, can you upload binaries to Github, like those in https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-2/releases ?

I have asked the crew to upload absolutely everything to github once we release v1.1.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: konelectric on March 25, 2016, 10:57:36 pm
$106 bar bill, good times. Can't wait to try try the iPhone app.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: testz on March 26, 2016, 07:53:29 am
$106 bar bill, good times. Can't wait to try try the iPhone app.

Same  :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 26, 2016, 08:05:20 am
Yep, this is the first time I have ever "submitted" to Apple so god only knows how long it takes for them to approve an app like this. Amazon just outright rejected it, no cryptocurrency apps there whatsoever. Let's hope Apple plays nice. I've heard that it can take a couple of months for them to approve new apps.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on March 27, 2016, 11:30:22 pm
Yep, this is the first time I have ever "submitted" to Apple so god only knows how long it takes for them to approve an app like this. Amazon just outright rejected it, no cryptocurrency apps there whatsoever. Let's hope Apple plays nice. I've heard that it can take a couple of months for them to approve new apps.
Is somewhere a download link for rooted IOS devices? Sorry I didn't find it.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 28, 2016, 07:17:19 am
Yep, this is the first time I have ever "submitted" to Apple so god only knows how long it takes for them to approve an app like this. Amazon just outright rejected it, no cryptocurrency apps there whatsoever. Let's hope Apple plays nice. I've heard that it can take a couple of months for them to approve new apps.
Is somewhere a download link for rooted IOS devices? Sorry I didn't find it.

None, sorry.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on March 28, 2016, 12:31:58 pm
Still no updates on f-droid ken. Que pasa?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 28, 2016, 05:43:09 pm
Still no updates on f-droid ken. Que pasa?

Tomas and I have both contacted them and they still have not pulled the latest update from the repo, so no idea wtf they're doing. It's out of our hands how often f-droid does the pulls. Aptoide finally published us though too, and they got v1.0.1. Karnal maybe you could contact f-droid as well and maybe the extra pressure will get them to pull more often?
 
edit: [member=33020]karnal[/member] - i just found their gitlab issues page and submitted a ticket there as well:
https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/issues/429
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on March 31, 2016, 11:57:19 am
Sounds like your team is working on getting it sorted ken, hope to see it working soon!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on March 31, 2016, 12:23:09 pm
Sounds like your team is working on getting it sorted ken, hope to see it working soon!

gradle tests have worked perfectly too, so not sure what's going on. Daniel Martí (gitlab) is looking into it too. Here is the repo they just need to build from:
https://github.com/kenCode-de/bitshares-wallet/releases *fingers crossed*
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: emailtooaj on April 02, 2016, 03:07:32 am
[member=30868]kenCode[/member] [member=38926]Chris4210[/member]
I received a question on the YouTube "Walk Through" video from Simon Feay and wasn't sure how to correctly answer it, so I'm going to paste it here in hope you could provide an answer.
Thank you!!

Can you tell me (in the app) where is the address for my account. I don't want the qr code to receive bitshares. I just want the actual alphanumeric walled address. Thanks
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 02, 2016, 06:13:23 am
[member=30868]kenCode[/member] [member=38926]Chris4210[/member]
I received a question on the YouTube "Walk Through" video from Simon Feay and wasn't sure how to correctly answer it, so I'm going to paste it here in hope you could provide an answer.
Thank you!!

Can you tell me (in the app) where is the address for my account. I don't want the qr code to receive bitshares. I just want the actual alphanumeric walled address. Thanks

if you give me the url to his comment, i can reply to comments like this. thanx AJ :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: emailtooaj on April 03, 2016, 03:51:44 am
[member=30868]kenCode[/member] [member=38926]Chris4210[/member]
I received a question on the YouTube "Walk Through" video from Simon Feay and wasn't sure how to correctly answer it, so I'm going to paste it here in hope you could provide an answer.
Thank you!!

Can you tell me (in the app) where is the address for my account. I don't want the qr code to receive bitshares. I just want the actual alphanumeric walled address. Thanks

if you give me the url to his comment, i can reply to comments like this. thanx AJ :)

Here's the link to page with comment...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9zWBKOGj0A&feature=gp-n-y&google_comment_id=z12puxoh4lzuzlgw004chdahnz20g5nzqs00k

Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 03, 2016, 06:13:34 am
Done. Thanx AJ :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 08, 2016, 07:20:49 pm
Two more videos have been posted demonstrating the UI/UX of the Smartcoins POS standalone system for iOS and Androids.
More videos coming next week demonstrating how the wallets "Overdraft Protection" features work and we also finished up the "Rewards Card" (loyalty) features too with both POS systems and the mobile wallets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLObFOPIzIM&index=13&list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on April 09, 2016, 07:33:34 am
Ken, any updates on the fdroid situation?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 09, 2016, 09:30:59 am
Ken, any updates on the fdroid situation?

i will post here as soon as we have more news from them.
Tomas (one of the devs i am paying for this) is beating the drum hard on f-droid.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: efundz1 on April 11, 2016, 08:35:58 pm
looking forward to continued updates on the android wallet, having created an account I am unable to do much with it at present, but its understandable
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 12, 2016, 05:09:45 am
Lots of stuff being released today too :)
http://www.meetup.com/bitshares-munich/
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 15, 2016, 02:19:02 pm
Our public demo of the Smartcoins POS standalone system (at our Meetup a few nights ago) went really well. The Bitcoin transactions ran a bit slow, but that is understandable.
 
Here are some screen shots from the latest alpha release (not available for public download yet):
(http://i.imgur.com/yykSn4h.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/oQEXjyO.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/epExuCE.png)
 
Rewards Card (loyalty points) features are working great, and we just finished the Overdraft Protection feature in the mobile wallets today too.
I might release a v1.0.2 to google play next week sometime with these things as they appear to be running quite well all around. I will release the full-on v1.1 shortly thereafter after I feel comfortable with it's integration with all of the Smartcoins POS features. I've crammed a LOT in there and don't want to rush it. I will also upload a couple more videos next week so you guys can see the flow.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 16, 2016, 02:43:03 pm
We have been invited by the Bitcoin community to present the Smartcoins POS at the Wayra Academy this wednesday at 2100 with Rodrigo Crespo (works with BitShares Munich). Chris will be presenting simultaneously at another location across town. Come out and see us!
http://www.meetup.com/Bitcoin-Munich/events/230075526/
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 19, 2016, 05:16:25 pm
Wow, we will have 31 people it looks like at our 2nd public demo of Smartcoins POS at Wayra Academy tomorrow:
http://www.meetup.com/BitShares-Munich/events/230288716/
plus:
http://www.meetup.com/Bitcoin-Munich/events/230075526/ (the same meetup was posted in 2 diff groups)
 
RSVP if you can join us! :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 20, 2016, 12:59:22 pm
I just received som BAD news for iOS users. The BitShares Wallet for iOS was denied by Apple.
 
They denied it because (apparently) it transmits a "virtual currency" that is not approved for the App Store. Secondly, they will not allow our app because it uses encryption to which they do not hold the keys (at least guess this is what they are trying to say).
 
Anybody have any idea what we should do next? Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
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From Apple
11.17 - Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies provided that they do so in compliance with all state and federal laws for the territories in which the app functions
Program License Agreement
11.17 Details

Your app facilitates the transmission of a virtual currency that is not approved for the App Store.

Next Steps

We encourage you to review your app concept and incorporate different content and features that are in compliance with the App Store Review Guidelines.

PLA 2.3

Additionally, we found that your Application Description states:

"Secured by the encrypted, fraud-proof BitShares blockchain."

However, your app does not have Export Compliance, which does not comply with the Apple Developer Program License Agreement, as required by the App Store Review Guidelines.

Section 2.3 of the Apple Developer Program License Agreement specifies,

"You certify that (i) none of the Licensed Applications contains, uses or supports any data encryption or cryptographic functions; or (ii) in the event that any Licensed Application contains, uses or supports any such data encryption or cryptographic functionality, You will, upon request, provide Apple with a PDF copy of Your Encryption Registration Number (ERN), or export classification ruling (CCATS) issued by the United States Commerce Department, Bureau of Industry and Security and PDF copies of appropriate authorizations from other countries that mandate import authorizations for that Licensed Application, as required."

Please review your app's encryption ability, and when resubmitting your binary, check the appropriate answers to the questions in the Export Compliance section of iTunes Connect. You may be asked some follow-on questions to determine the level of encryption in your app; you may also be asked to provide a copy of your CCATS.

If you have questions related to export compliance and your app's use of encryption, please contact the App Store Export Compliance team at appstore.ec[member=3065]apple[/member].com.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: lil_jay890 on April 20, 2016, 02:07:20 pm
I just received som BAD news for iOS users. The BitShares Wallet for iOS was denied by Apple.
 
They denied it because (apparently) it transmits a "virtual currency" that is not approved for the App Store. Secondly, they will not allow our app because it uses encryption to which they do not hold the keys (at least guess this is what they are trying to say).
 
Anybody have any idea what we should do next? Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
Code: [Select]

From Apple
11.17 - Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies provided that they do so in compliance with all state and federal laws for the territories in which the app functions
Program License Agreement
11.17 Details

Your app facilitates the transmission of a virtual currency that is not approved for the App Store.

Next Steps

We encourage you to review your app concept and incorporate different content and features that are in compliance with the App Store Review Guidelines.

PLA 2.3

Additionally, we found that your Application Description states:

"Secured by the encrypted, fraud-proof BitShares blockchain."

However, your app does not have Export Compliance, which does not comply with the Apple Developer Program License Agreement, as required by the App Store Review Guidelines.

Section 2.3 of the Apple Developer Program License Agreement specifies,

"You certify that (i) none of the Licensed Applications contains, uses or supports any data encryption or cryptographic functions; or (ii) in the event that any Licensed Application contains, uses or supports any such data encryption or cryptographic functionality, You will, upon request, provide Apple with a PDF copy of Your Encryption Registration Number (ERN), or export classification ruling (CCATS) issued by the United States Commerce Department, Bureau of Industry and Security and PDF copies of appropriate authorizations from other countries that mandate import authorizations for that Licensed Application, as required."

Please review your app's encryption ability, and when resubmitting your binary, check the appropriate answers to the questions in the Export Compliance section of iTunes Connect. You may be asked some follow-on questions to determine the level of encryption in your app; you may also be asked to provide a copy of your CCATS.

If you have questions related to export compliance and your app's use of encryption, please contact the App Store Export Compliance team at appstore.ec[member=3065]apple[/member].com.

Ken,

I'm kind of confused by this.  Did your team read the terms of service prior to working on the iOS App?  Getting bitcoin wallets on iOS has been extremely difficult for the last several years and I wouldn't expect a bitshares app to be any easier.  Granted coinbase got their app on iOS, but i'm sure they followed the terms.  There are some other wallets as well on iOS, so maybe ask Apple why they were allowed in.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Pheonike on April 20, 2016, 02:46:58 pm

Coinbase has relationships with banks and regulators.

Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk

Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on April 20, 2016, 02:48:35 pm
I just received som BAD news for iOS users. The BitShares Wallet for iOS was denied by Apple.
 
They denied it because (apparently) it transmits a "virtual currency" that is not approved for the App Store. Secondly, they will not allow our app because it uses encryption to which they do not hold the keys (at least guess this is what they are trying to say).
 
Anybody have any idea what we should do next? Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
Code: [Select]

From Apple
11.17 - Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies provided that they do so in compliance with all state and federal laws for the territories in which the app functions
Program License Agreement
11.17 Details

Your app facilitates the transmission of a virtual currency that is not approved for the App Store.

Next Steps

We encourage you to review your app concept and incorporate different content and features that are in compliance with the App Store Review Guidelines.

PLA 2.3

Additionally, we found that your Application Description states:

"Secured by the encrypted, fraud-proof BitShares blockchain."

However, your app does not have Export Compliance, which does not comply with the Apple Developer Program License Agreement, as required by the App Store Review Guidelines.

Section 2.3 of the Apple Developer Program License Agreement specifies,

"You certify that (i) none of the Licensed Applications contains, uses or supports any data encryption or cryptographic functions; or (ii) in the event that any Licensed Application contains, uses or supports any such data encryption or cryptographic functionality, You will, upon request, provide Apple with a PDF copy of Your Encryption Registration Number (ERN), or export classification ruling (CCATS) issued by the United States Commerce Department, Bureau of Industry and Security and PDF copies of appropriate authorizations from other countries that mandate import authorizations for that Licensed Application, as required."

Please review your app's encryption ability, and when resubmitting your binary, check the appropriate answers to the questions in the Export Compliance section of iTunes Connect. You may be asked some follow-on questions to determine the level of encryption in your app; you may also be asked to provide a copy of your CCATS.

If you have questions related to export compliance and your app's use of encryption, please contact the App Store Export Compliance team at appstore.ec[member=3065]apple[/member].com.

Ken,

I'm kind of confused by this.  Did your team read the terms of service prior to working on the iOS App?  Getting bitcoin wallets on iOS has been extremely difficult for the last several years and I wouldn't expect a bitshares app to be any easier.  Granted coinbase got their app on iOS, but i'm sure they followed the terms.  There are some other wallets as well on iOS, so maybe ask Apple why they were allowed in.

lol, my opinion of apple had gone up with the whole apple vs fbi ordeal, it's plummeted right back down after reading this.

-5%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 20, 2016, 02:50:23 pm
I just received som BAD news for iOS users. The BitShares Wallet for iOS was denied by Apple.
 
They denied it because (apparently) it transmits a "virtual currency" that is not approved for the App Store. Secondly, they will not allow our app because it uses encryption to which they do not hold the keys (at least guess this is what they are trying to say).
 
Anybody have any idea what we should do next? Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
Code: [Select]

From Apple
11.17 - Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies provided that they do so in compliance with all state and federal laws for the territories in which the app functions
Program License Agreement
11.17 Details

Your app facilitates the transmission of a virtual currency that is not approved for the App Store.

Next Steps

We encourage you to review your app concept and incorporate different content and features that are in compliance with the App Store Review Guidelines.

PLA 2.3

Additionally, we found that your Application Description states:

"Secured by the encrypted, fraud-proof BitShares blockchain."

However, your app does not have Export Compliance, which does not comply with the Apple Developer Program License Agreement, as required by the App Store Review Guidelines.

Section 2.3 of the Apple Developer Program License Agreement specifies,

"You certify that (i) none of the Licensed Applications contains, uses or supports any data encryption or cryptographic functions; or (ii) in the event that any Licensed Application contains, uses or supports any such data encryption or cryptographic functionality, You will, upon request, provide Apple with a PDF copy of Your Encryption Registration Number (ERN), or export classification ruling (CCATS) issued by the United States Commerce Department, Bureau of Industry and Security and PDF copies of appropriate authorizations from other countries that mandate import authorizations for that Licensed Application, as required."

Please review your app's encryption ability, and when resubmitting your binary, check the appropriate answers to the questions in the Export Compliance section of iTunes Connect. You may be asked some follow-on questions to determine the level of encryption in your app; you may also be asked to provide a copy of your CCATS.

If you have questions related to export compliance and your app's use of encryption, please contact the App Store Export Compliance team at appstore.ec[member=3065]apple[/member].com.

Ken,

I'm kind of confused by this.  Did your team read the terms of service prior to working on the iOS App?  Getting bitcoin wallets on iOS has been extremely difficult for the last several years and I wouldn't expect a bitshares app to be any easier.  Granted coinbase got their app on iOS, but i'm sure they followed the terms.  There are some other wallets as well on iOS, so maybe ask Apple why they were allowed in.

If they did it, and our technology in essence works the exact same way (encryption, blockchains, wallet transfers the tokens, etc) then why would they deny us? Yes, it might be difficult for them, but they must have said something or done something to help Apple to see the light.
 
I have contacted Apple directly via their Appeal process with that exact inquiry. A friendly message just asking what else we should do to get published in the App store just like all the other Bitcoin wallets out there. I will keep posting my progress with them here on the forum..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Erlich Bachman on April 20, 2016, 04:13:03 pm
The GETGEMZ team got an IOS app, and they send bitcoin and GEMZ!

They should be our template.  Maybe we can contact them or ask them.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 21, 2016, 02:10:52 pm
Smartcoins POS beta1 now complete, but lots of UI to do still. Overdraft Protection in the BitShares Wallet is working great now (allows your wallet to draw from a pre-defined alternate balance if you do not have enough to cover your bill at the cash register). Rewards Card (loyalty points) feature is working great now too (the merchant can automatically reward their customers with their own token which can be redeemed (partial, or in full) upon the customers next visit). The callbacks are working great (and in under 3 seconds!) so the moment you receive your eReceipt from the merchant and approve the payment, the POS system verifies your payment and you're on your way. That's faster and safer than using cash!
 
We will probably be happy with the UI within the next 2 weeks, and then we can quickly do the same fluffy stuff to the Odoo POS system as well (it's also in beta1, but just needs some beautification).
 
The Smartcoins POS systems allow a merchant of any size to accept nearly any cryptocurrency (even the price-stable market-pegged Smartcoins themselves) at ZERO cost. All a merchant needs to do is install the free app into their existing POS system and they are ready to roll.
 
a 1 minute video showing the flow of the Smartcoins POS standalone system:
https://youtu.be/EV7BGBKwDIw
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: tbone on April 21, 2016, 02:36:42 pm
I just received som BAD news for iOS users. The BitShares Wallet for iOS was denied by Apple.
 
They denied it because (apparently) it transmits a "virtual currency" that is not approved for the App Store. Secondly, they will not allow our app because it uses encryption to which they do not hold the keys (at least guess this is what they are trying to say).
 
Anybody have any idea what we should do next? Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
Code: [Select]

From Apple
11.17 - Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies provided that they do so in compliance with all state and federal laws for the territories in which the app functions
Program License Agreement
11.17 Details

Your app facilitates the transmission of a virtual currency that is not approved for the App Store.

Next Steps

We encourage you to review your app concept and incorporate different content and features that are in compliance with the App Store Review Guidelines.

PLA 2.3

Additionally, we found that your Application Description states:

"Secured by the encrypted, fraud-proof BitShares blockchain."

However, your app does not have Export Compliance, which does not comply with the Apple Developer Program License Agreement, as required by the App Store Review Guidelines.

Section 2.3 of the Apple Developer Program License Agreement specifies,

"You certify that (i) none of the Licensed Applications contains, uses or supports any data encryption or cryptographic functions; or (ii) in the event that any Licensed Application contains, uses or supports any such data encryption or cryptographic functionality, You will, upon request, provide Apple with a PDF copy of Your Encryption Registration Number (ERN), or export classification ruling (CCATS) issued by the United States Commerce Department, Bureau of Industry and Security and PDF copies of appropriate authorizations from other countries that mandate import authorizations for that Licensed Application, as required."

Please review your app's encryption ability, and when resubmitting your binary, check the appropriate answers to the questions in the Export Compliance section of iTunes Connect. You may be asked some follow-on questions to determine the level of encryption in your app; you may also be asked to provide a copy of your CCATS.

If you have questions related to export compliance and your app's use of encryption, please contact the App Store Export Compliance team at appstore.ec[member=3065]apple[/member].com.

Ken,

I'm kind of confused by this.  Did your team read the terms of service prior to working on the iOS App?  Getting bitcoin wallets on iOS has been extremely difficult for the last several years and I wouldn't expect a bitshares app to be any easier.  Granted coinbase got their app on iOS, but i'm sure they followed the terms.  There are some other wallets as well on iOS, so maybe ask Apple why they were allowed in.

If they did it, and our technology in essence works the exact same way (encryption, blockchains, wallet transfers the tokens, etc) then why would they deny us? Yes, it might be difficult for them, but they must have said something or done something to help Apple to see the light.
 
I have contacted Apple directly via their Appeal process with that exact inquiry. A friendly message just asking what else we should do to get published in the App store just like all the other Bitcoin wallets out there. I will keep posting my progress with them here on the forum..

When it comes to getting approved by Apple, you might consider trying to bill your app more as a Bitcoin app than anything else.  Also, why do you need to mention encryption?  I would avoid that.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 21, 2016, 03:01:20 pm

When it comes to getting approved by Apple, you might consider trying to bill your app more as a Bitcoin app than anything else.  Also, why do you need to mention encryption?  I would avoid that.

It's too late for that now since they have already read our app description, but when I originally researched all the other crypto apps in their store, a good majority of them mention how their funds are encrypted, so that can't be it. Their comment that states "approved virtual currencies" and the ERN and CCATS crap though is what really pisses me off. Our Smartcoins POS systems (above) are all native to iOS and Android as well, so is Apple going to deny all of those apps we are producing now too? wtf
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 21, 2016, 03:13:39 pm
This just in:
 
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From Apple
11.17 - Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies provided that they do so in compliance with all state and federal laws for the territories in which the app functions
Program License Agreement
 
-----------------------------------------------
Hello,

We are writing to let you know the results of your appeal for your app, BitShares wallet.

The App Review Board evaluated your app and determined that the original rejection feedback was partially accurate.

Your app is no longer in violation of PLA 2.3.

However, your app is still in violation of:

11.17: Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies provided that they do so in compliance with all state and federal laws for the territories in which the app functions

The app facilitates the transmission of a BitShares, which is not approved for the App Store.

Additionally, the following issue was discovered during our evaluation:

2.9: Apps that are “beta”, “demo”, “trial”, or “test” versions will be rejected

The app claims to be in beta. Please remove all references to "beta" from your binary. If you would like to conduct a beta trial for your app, you may wish to review the TestFlight Beta Testing Guide. A screenshot has been attached for your reference.

We hope you will consider making the necessary changes to be in compliance with the App Store Review Guidelines and will resubmit your revised binary.

Best regards,
Erin
App Review Board

I am replying to her now with another friendly inquiry. We will remove the word beta from the bottom left corner of the wallet screen if they allow the word BitShares to be used. Let's see... (for the record, this is fukn ridiculous IMO grrrrrrrr)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Erlich Bachman on April 21, 2016, 03:51:39 pm
Thanks for trying Ken.  I know, this does suck.

How did GetGemz get an IOS app, and we can't?

From what I understand, you can send both BTC and GEMZ with their app.  Not sure what their capabilities are exactly, but I know they had an IOS app approved last winter.

good luck
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: . on April 21, 2016, 04:27:47 pm
 +5% Just go along, these companies have to stick to their policies,
it's only Half as Wild as it could get, as the Germans sometimes say ;)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 22, 2016, 06:26:50 am
So, here is Apple's latest email to me:
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From Apple
11.17 - Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies provided that they do so in compliance with all state and federal laws for the territories in which the app functions
Program License Agreement
 
---------------------
Hello,

Thank you for your response. We understand that you are unable to change the name of the currency, however this currency is not approved for the App Store and cannot be distributed using an app on the App Store.

We encourage you to review your app concept and incorporate different content and features that are in compliance with the App Store Review Guidelines.

Best regards,
Erin
App Review Board

It's getting almost comedic at this point, jeez
 
edit: i sent her another friendly inquiry, will post updates here as we go
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: . on April 22, 2016, 10:58:16 am
" BitShares are not a currency, BTS are crypto-equity tokens.

However, some people do use BTS as if it were a currency.

We cannot change the way people see it but our definition is clear. "
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 23, 2016, 11:39:06 am
I just got another reply to my latest Appeal:
Code: [Select]

From Apple
11.17 - Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies provided that they do so in compliance with all state and federal laws for the territories in which the app functions
Program License Agreement
Hello,

Thank you for your response. At this time BitShares is not an approved currency for the App Store and so the BitShares Wallet app cannot be approved for distribution on the App Store. Should you wish to revise the currency used by the app, you may do so and resubmit.

Best regards,
Erin
App Review Board

and my reply to it:
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Hi Erin, thank you again for your time, it is much appreciated :) You are stating that "BitShares is not an approved currency". Bitcoin also was not an approved currency. The token name cannot be changed, that is impossible. Both of these technologies use the blockchain, and both are just tokens upon it. If "BitShares is not an approved currency" yet, then what is the process to get it this additional token approved just like Bitcoin?
Thank you again :)
  ken
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: . on April 24, 2016, 06:36:50 pm
Is there another way to get apps running on IOS or must they be on their appstore?

I don't have an iPhone, just curious, I prefer Android phones — for various reasons
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 25, 2016, 06:37:09 pm
Is there another way to get apps running on IOS or must they be on their appstore?
I don't have an iPhone, just curious, I prefer Android phones — for various reasons

I think those iOS users will have to "jailbreak" their phone if we just can't win Apple over. I think Apple is getting concerned that we might be competing with their Apple Pay service now, hence the denial of our Wallet apps.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 25, 2016, 06:38:19 pm
Three more milestones completed. More videos posted:
https://youtu.be/5op6PPlU3Ug?list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 25, 2016, 06:59:19 pm
The latest reply from Apple:
Code: [Select]

From Apple
11.17 - Apps may facilitate transmission of approved virtual currencies provided that they do so in compliance with all state and federal laws for the territories in which the app functions
Program License Agreement
 
Hello,

Thank you for contacting the App Review Board. We have scheduled a call with an Apple representative in order to discuss the results of your appeal. We anticipate calling within 3 business days.

To help ensure we have the correct contact information, please reply to this message to provide a contact name and phone number for this call.

Best regards,
Erin
App Review Board

..and of course I replied with a very kiss-ass, friendly reply with my phone number. Wow, I wonder if I get to talk to the infamous Erin now :) Awaiting her call... 
edit: removed my phone number from the code box above for privacy.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Erlich Bachman on April 25, 2016, 07:14:22 pm
Tell her, we are no different then GEMZ

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.0

They got an Iphone app
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on April 25, 2016, 07:18:14 pm
Tell her, we are no different then GEMZ

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.0

They got an Iphone app

+5%
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: tbone on April 25, 2016, 07:34:37 pm
Tell her, we are no different then GEMZ

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.0

They got an Iphone app

I agree, I would tell her that Bitshares is no different than GEMS.  And I would also try to further blur the lines by saying both Bitshares and GEMS are based on Bitcoin blockchain.  Good luck, Ken!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Erlich Bachman on April 25, 2016, 07:51:33 pm
That is true
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on April 27, 2016, 06:27:46 am
Well, this quip from Mycelium sure doesn't give me much hope. It looks like Mycelium has the same problems with Apple that we are having right now...
 
"forgiving us the geeky UI, the nerdy UX and the missing iOS version"
https://wallet.mycelium.com/Mycelium_Crowdsale_PR.pdf
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 02, 2016, 04:27:43 pm
Smartcoins POS for Odoo now has the rewards card features complete, just need to do some more UI tweaks to it now:
https://youtu.be/sOiKmYqrm-c?list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0
 
Apple finally called me today, I kept them on the phone for nearly 30 minutes, but alas I could not convince them that the name Bitshares was just a token on a blockchain like Bitcoin, Litecoin, etc. They are standing firm that Bitshares is "not an approved currency", so, I said since we are not able to change the name of our token to anything else and the blockchain cannot be modified, I have asked to speak with the manager of the department so that our tokens can "be approved" by Apple. Awaiting that guy's call next. This sucks man cuz I have another wallet, and the smartcoins pos standalone app that I want to get into the apple app store, so will they deny all 3 now? If I do not get anywhere with this manager guy, then I will have to hire a professional to get our apps into the apple app store.
 
soooo... Please check out our OPENPOS token....
Thank you for your patience guys, I am doing everything I can to get us in their app store.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: karnal on May 02, 2016, 04:30:49 pm
^^ I applaud you ken, for staying strong (and serious) in the face of such idiocy ...
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: lil_jay890 on May 02, 2016, 04:51:52 pm
Smartcoins POS for Odoo now has the rewards card features complete, just need to do some more UI tweaks to it now:
https://youtu.be/sOiKmYqrm-c?list=PLjbx3qSmDe7RYkRMIEuFyYyG7_vvKgou0
 
Apple finally called me today, I kept them on the phone for nearly 30 minutes, but alas I could not convince them that the name Bitshares was just a token on a blockchain like Bitcoin, Litecoin, etc. They are standing firm that Bitshares is "not an approved currency", so, I said since we are not able to change the name of our token to anything else and the blockchain cannot be modified, I have asked to speak with the manager of the department so that our tokens can "be approved" by Apple. Awaiting that guy's call next. This sucks man cuz I have another wallet, and the smartcoins pos standalone app that I want to get into the apple app store, so will they deny all 3 now? If I do not get anywhere with this manager guy, then I will have to hire a professional to get our apps into the apple app store.
 
soooo... Please check out our OPENPOS token....
Thank you for your patience guys, I am doing everything I can to get us in their app store.

FTFY - Please BUY the OPENPOS token to gain exposure to the profits generated from ODOO 
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 02, 2016, 08:19:51 pm
Exaaaaaactly, thanx guys :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Fox on May 02, 2016, 09:12:59 pm
[...]
Apple finally called me today, I kept them on the phone for nearly 30 minutes, but alas I could not convince them that the name Bitshares was just a token on a blockchain like Bitcoin, Litecoin, etc. They are standing firm that Bitshares is "not an approved currency", so, I said since we are not able to change the name of our token to anything else and the blockchain cannot be modified, I have asked to speak with the manager of the department so that our tokens can "be approved" by Apple.
[...]

I'll offer the following guidance for your upcoming conversation with with the Apple manager: BitShares is the name of the Blockchain that the app connects to. The native token of BitShares is BTS. There are many bitcoin wallets on offer in the App Store. This offering is not any different.

I'm not sure how you are naming the app, but you may consider a product name with the description BitShares wallet: "Foo - BitShares Wallet"

Best,
Fox
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 03, 2016, 05:35:55 am
yep, I already offered to change the name of the wallet, but they are standing firm on that the remaining problem with the denial is that Bitshares (regardless of which blockchain or token name we are on/using) is not an "approved currency" of Apple. this is why after the half an hour of back and forth with the guy I asked to please escalate this to the manager approval person. from my understanding, even Mycelium was removed for some reason, so I seriously doubt this has anything to do with Bitshares being an approved currency as they say. I am guessing this has everything to do with perceived competition. Apple Pay really should take a look at what we have to offer instead of fighting what we offer. Hmmm, this gives me an idea..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 03, 2016, 04:03:57 pm
ok, so Apple's app store approvals manager just called me. no name given.
Bitshares is not an "approved currency" and will never be looked at until our "market cap is in the tens of millions" he said. Seriously, those were his exact words, verbatim. I said but but but... I see little po-dunk race car games in the app store that will never see a download in their lifetime and yet those are all being approved, I am very curious as to why we have to be valued in the "tens of millions" before we will be "considered".
 
Honestly guys, I am very sorry, but I have had it with Apple for a while. I have spent way too many hours trying to appease these people and must move on to our other projects. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: pc on May 03, 2016, 04:14:02 pm
Thanks for trying!

I hate these stupid gatekeepers. Apple users get what they deserve - only they aren't even aware of it... :-(
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on May 03, 2016, 04:15:26 pm
What a stupid platform it is if you need an approval of some idiots to put your program onto it!!!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: lil_jay890 on May 03, 2016, 04:53:31 pm
ok, so Apple's app store approvals manager just called me. no name given.
Bitshares is not an "approved currency" and will never be looked at until our "market cap is in the tens of millions" he said. Seriously, those were his exact words, verbatim. I said but but but... I see little po-dunk race car games in the app store that will never see a download in their lifetime and yet those are all being approved, I am very curious as to why we have to be valued in the "tens of millions" before we will be "considered".
 
Honestly guys, I am very sorry, but I have had it with Apple for a while. I have spent way too many hours trying to appease these people and must move on to our other projects. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Isn't bitshares market cap in the "tens of millions"?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 03, 2016, 05:42:16 pm
ok, so Apple's app store approvals manager just called me. no name given.
Bitshares is not an "approved currency" and will never be looked at until our "market cap is in the tens of millions" he said. Seriously, those were his exact words, verbatim. I said but but but... I see little po-dunk race car games in the app store that will never see a download in their lifetime and yet those are all being approved, I am very curious as to why we have to be valued in the "tens of millions" before we will be "considered".
 
Honestly guys, I am very sorry, but I have had it with Apple for a while. I have spent way too many hours trying to appease these people and must move on to our other projects. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Isn't bitshares market cap in the "tens of millions"?

i seriously doubt this bs has anything to do with us being an approved currency, or having the proper legal rights, or having enough market cap blah blah blah whatever they can think up next. i think this has everything to do with competition and their damn apple pay crap.
 
even Mycelium got pulled from their App Store I think:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/genre/ios-finance/id6015?mt=8&letter=M&page=20#page
and from Mycelium themselves:
"forgiving us the geeky UI, the nerdy UX and the missing iOS version"
https://wallet.mycelium.com/Mycelium_Crowdsale_PR.pdf
 
something's up. maybe we have encryption (like they mentioned) that they can't control. maybe they want a stake in the bts blockchain. maybe they only go through Agents to get new apps like ours approved. maybe.. maybe.. maybe... ~tin foil hat~
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 03, 2016, 05:54:35 pm
aaaaand their latest reply via email just now:
Code: [Select]

Hello Ken,

Thanks for your time on the phone today.

As we discussed, your app facilitates the transmission of a virtual currency that is not approved for the App Store. In order for your currency to be considered the market cap would need to be very large.

You may submit an appeal to the App Review Board. Please allow up to one business day for an initial response from the App Review Board.

Please feel free to contact me at +1-408-974-2992 between 8AM-5PM Pacific Daylight Time if you need further clarification.

Best regards,
Bill
App Store Review

same old blah blah blah, back to square 1 in other words, a run-around.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: lil_jay890 on May 03, 2016, 06:16:05 pm
aaaaand their latest reply via email just now:
Code: [Select]

Hello Ken,

Thanks for your time on the phone today.

As we discussed, your app facilitates the transmission of a virtual currency that is not approved for the App Store. In order for your currency to be considered the market cap would need to be very large.

You may submit an appeal to the App Review Board. Please allow up to one business day for an initial response from the App Review Board.

Please feel free to contact me at +1-408-974-2992 between 8AM-5PM Pacific Daylight Time if you need further clarification.

Best regards,
Bill
App Store Review

same old blah blah blah, back to square 1 in other words, a run-around.

I understand where Apple is coming from.  There are hundreds of coins out there and I'm guessing they do not have the man power to vet all of them.  Perhaps you could supply them with a short report that address's some of their concerns.

-Use cryptofresh to demonstrate the amount of transactions being made and orders being filled.  Show them people use this already and would use it even more if the app was available to apple customers.
-Talk about how long bitshares has been around with 0 security issues.  Talk about the stability and decentralization that bts has achieved.

What Apple is worried about is that a customer uses the wallet and then somehow loses their money or virtual currency due to an unsecure blockchain or bug.  It's a valid reason for them not to approve the currency.

Also you need to consider that Apple makes money from in app purchases.  This gives them an incentive to allow the apps.  Does the bts wallet offer anything like this?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 04, 2016, 05:17:33 am
Done.
I also included the links and info to cryptofresh. Let's see what the big cheese says now, as usual I'll keep you guys filled in.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 04, 2016, 01:48:21 pm
The (lightning fast) Smartcoins Wallet v1.0.0 (android native) will be done by June 1st. Please lmk your thoughts.. Here is a sneak peek:
 
(http://i.imgur.com/shnl7dd.png)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: Fox on May 05, 2016, 01:16:20 pm
Done.
I also included the links and info to cryptofresh. Let's see what the big cheese says now, as usual I'll keep you guys filled in.
I can understand how demoralizing and time consuming this has been with Apple. Thanks for continuing to push it.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: maemon on May 05, 2016, 01:34:20 pm
Hey Ken, great work!

As a potential user, I think there are 3 main features which are a must.
The first is the ability to request or 'recieve' User Issued Asset, currently, it only shows option to request BTS, USD, CNY & EUR.
The second feature is the ability to set a default asset you would like to request (with support for UIA) So you dont have to toggle it every time.
The third feature is the ability to use your finger print instead of a pin for ease of use; I understand there may be some security concern, so it might be an opt in feature rather than a deault option.

Looking forward to the full release, good luck!
Thanks.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 05, 2016, 01:57:38 pm
Hey Ken, great work!

As a potential user, I think there are 3 main features which are a must.
The first is the ability to request or 'recieve' User Issued Asset, currently, it only shows option to request BTS, USD, CNY & EUR.
The second feature is the ability to set a default asset you would like to request (with support for UIA) So you dont have to toggle it every time.
The third feature is the ability to use your finger print instead of a pin for ease of use; I understand there may be some security concern, so it might be an opt in feature rather than a deault option.

Looking forward to the full release, good luck!
Thanks.

Thanx for the kind words [member=42396]maemon[/member] :)
 
Ability to req or recv UIA's is already built-in, along with every Smartcoin and BTS core too.
 
Setting default asset, inluding UIA's and even a backup asset (in case you run out of the primary) is built-in too.
 
Finger-print.. We won't put that in there just yet, gotta research it's ramifications a bit more, BUT, it's funny you mentioned that though, I have been whining a lot lately about all the damn logins I have to remember for the many digital tools that I use these days. So, whether it be fingerprint scanning, or voice, or draw-patterns (my preference) rest assured, it will be considered for a future version.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: maemon on May 05, 2016, 02:56:30 pm
[member=30868]kenCode[/member]

(http://i.imgur.com/I9jm685.png?1)
Oh, is mine like this cause I have an older version of the app? (got it from the playstore)
While I do agree that further research has to be conducted regarding fingerprint scanning, having to enter a 6 digit pin every time you have to pay for something is definitely not ideal for the end user.
BTW when's the standalone POS app getting released? :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: onceuponatime on May 05, 2016, 05:38:00 pm
Ken's latest info is now on steemit.com       

https://steemit.com/crypto-news/[member=30868]kenCode[/member]/smartcoins-pos-the-free-way-for-companies-to-accept-crypto-currencies
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 05, 2016, 07:53:02 pm
Oh, is mine like this cause I have an older version of the app? (got it from the playstore)
While I do agree that further research has to be conducted regarding fingerprint scanning, having to enter a 6 digit pin every time you have to pay for something is definitely not ideal for the end user.
BTW when's the standalone POS app getting released? :)

Aaah, yes I was talking about the new Smartcoins Wallet v1.0 we will be releasing on or before June 1st. I totally agree with you on the annoying PIN entry too, gonna get that fix into BitShares Wallet v1.1.
 
The Smartcoins POS standalone app will be released on or before June 1st as well. Thanx for trying our stuff out and providing the feedback! :)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 07, 2016, 08:50:23 am
pffft Apple.. https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=05042016a
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 10, 2016, 06:41:37 am
The new (android-native) Smartcoins Wallet will be done by June 1st. The most complex screen is the send screen since it has to support merchants who have issued you some of their loyalty points (their uia), plus the backup asset (overdraft protection) and the ability to instantly cash out one of your other assets if you want to hold on to the currency that the merchant is requiring from you. Anyway, here is the basic layout of that screen:
(http://i.imgur.com/clJ5tkl.png)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: ebit on May 10, 2016, 07:00:13 am
 +5% good
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: yvv on May 10, 2016, 11:43:43 pm
Ok, I gave up trying. It can't import my wallet. Each time I ask to import wallet file, nothing happens.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: tbone on May 11, 2016, 01:21:12 am
The new (android-native) Smartcoins Wallet will be done by June 1st. The most complex screen is the send screen since it has to support merchants who have issued you some of their loyalty points (their uia), plus the backup asset (overdraft protection) and the ability to instantly cash out one of your other assets if you want to hold on to the currency that the merchant is requiring from you. Anyway, here is the basic layout of that screen:
(http://i.imgur.com/clJ5tkl.png)

Maybe I'm missing something obvious...but why is there a "From" field on the send screen?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 11, 2016, 06:45:14 am
Ok, I gave up trying. It can't import my wallet. Each time I ask to import wallet file, nothing happens.

The mobile wallet will import the bin file that it created, or your brainkey that it created.
It will not import account data from any other wallet yet.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 11, 2016, 06:46:09 am
Maybe I'm missing something obvious...but why is there a "From" field on the send screen?

Because this new wallet will let you import and/create multiple accounts.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: maemon on May 11, 2016, 01:22:05 pm
While It is nice having the option to send from multiple accounts, I think it should be an op in option in the settings menu rather than the default. Again this is to save on actual day to day transaction time.
Think DoughWallet (Dogecoin wallet) on IOS, where its simplicity was literally its killer feature!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 11, 2016, 01:40:19 pm
While It is nice having the option to send from multiple accounts, I think it should be an op in option in the settings menu rather than the default. Again this is to save on actual day to day transaction time.
Think DoughWallet (Dogecoin wallet) on IOS, where its simplicity was literally its killer feature!

Putting the accounts you have created into that nice slim field with the little down area.. I don't think it can get any cleaner than that. Having multiple accounts was a highly requested feature, so using that little down area for something so major keeps it nice and simple IMO. I couldn't think of a better place to keep your access to those accounts other than in a select menu like that. Having to leave the app and go into the settings screen just to switch accounts seemed like it might tick some people off.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: abit on May 11, 2016, 05:14:09 pm
If there is only one account in wallet, just hide the "from" label and selection?
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 11, 2016, 05:18:45 pm
If there is only one account in wallet, just hide the "from" label and selection?

No, I want to encourage people to import accounts so that the mobile wallet (and hence our POS systems) will get used more often.
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: tbone on May 12, 2016, 04:07:05 am
Maybe I'm missing something obvious...but why is there a "From" field on the send screen?

Because this new wallet will let you import and/create multiple accounts.

Ah, I see.  Nice!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: tbone on May 12, 2016, 04:13:17 am
While It is nice having the option to send from multiple accounts, I think it should be an op in option in the settings menu rather than the default. Again this is to save on actual day to day transaction time.
Think DoughWallet (Dogecoin wallet) on IOS, where its simplicity was literally its killer feature!

Putting the accounts you have created into that nice slim field with the little down area.. I don't think it can get any cleaner than that. Having multiple accounts was a highly requested feature, so using that little down area for something so major keeps it nice and simple IMO. I couldn't think of a better place to keep your access to those accounts other than in a select menu like that. Having to leave the app and go into the settings screen just to switch accounts seemed like it might tick some people off.

I agree.  With multiple account support, choosing which account to send from should be as simple as selecting it from the list.  Of course, in the settings, one should be able to indicate which account is the default. 
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 12, 2016, 04:40:07 am
Good idea, will add that option in the settings (hopefully with the v1.0.0 release).
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 16, 2016, 06:30:59 am
We will be competing for the Blockchain Innovation Award (a 5min pitch of our ECHO projects) and will be back here in Munich by tuesday night (most likely).
 
From the GTEC.Berlin website:
€50,000 in prizes to be awarded to 12 shortlisted blockchain startups selected from over 100 applications from every corner of the globe.
 
We are delighted to invite you to the GTEC Blockchain Innovation Award Ceremony on Tuesday 17th May, held in the Auditorium Maximum at ESMT Berlin (Schlossplatz 1, 10178 Berlin) from 16:00 – 20:00.
 
The first of its kind, the Blockchain Innovation Award is supported by GTEC founding partners RWE and Globumbus and will present a total of €50,000 (€20,000 Gold; €15,000 Silver; €10,000 Bronze, plus a €5,000 Community Prize) to startups and founders working on the best innovation using blockchain technology.
 
The contest has attracted more than 100 impressive applications from across the globe, including startups from Ghana, the US, and Russia, from which the 12 shortlisted startups have been selected.
 
At the Award Ceremony on the 17th May, the 12 shortlisted startups will have the chance to pitch their ideas to investors, academics, and Berlin’s startup community, before the prizes are awarded.
 
There will be keynotes from Trent McConaghy, founder of ascribe and BigchainDB, Thomas Birr, Head of Strategy & Innovation, RWE AG, and Jens Hewald and Thomas Hessler, founders of Globumbus.
 
http://gtec.berlin/announcing-the-shortlist-for-the-gtec-blockchain-innovation-award/
 
Chris4210, Rodrigo10 and I are leaving for the GTEC.Berlin event today, so please wish us luck!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: pc on May 16, 2016, 07:28:53 am
Good luck! (And have fun in Berlin... :-)
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 16, 2016, 07:31:01 am
Thanx [member=94]pc[/member] :) - and here is a link if you can Upvote it may help pay some of our expenses:
https://steemit.com/crypto-news/[member=30868]kenCode[/member]/bitshares-munich-demonstrates-at-blockchain-innovation-awards
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: testz on May 16, 2016, 08:08:25 am
Thanx [member=94]pc[/member] :) - and here is a link if you can Upvote it may help pay some of our expenses:
https://steemit.com/crypto-news/[member=30868]kenCode[/member]/bitshares-munich-demonstrates-at-blockchain-innovation-awards

Done. Good luck!!!

PS: Correct link is https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@ kencode/bitshares-munich-demonstrates-at-blockchain-innovation-awards
Without space before kencode
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 19, 2016, 11:41:53 am
BitShares Wallet users, please backup your Brainkey now, and also a .bin file.
Remove the mobile wallet completely (we upgraded a lot of the files and db).
 
THEN, feel free to download the latest version (v1.0.5):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bitsharesmunich.wallet
 
WHAT'S NEW
Improved QR code reading, added Overdraft Protection (select a backup asset in Settings menu), added Rewards Card (loyalty points) feature, improved callbacks with Smartcoins POS systems (so the cashier does not sit there giving you a dirty look while waiting for your payment), small UI updates.
 
I hope you like it! :)
 
edit: PLEASE UPVOTE!
https://steemit.com/bitshares-munich/[member=30868]kenCode[/member]/bitshares-wallet-v1
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: maemon on May 24, 2016, 07:04:39 am
Great job once again Ken!

btw, whats the status on the "lightning fast" v 1.0 native android wallet?

Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 24, 2016, 12:39:19 pm
Great job once again Ken!

btw, whats the status on the "lightning fast" v 1.0 native android wallet?

Thanx maemon :)
I'm hoping to have the first alpha apk ready for testing ~June 1st. I probably won't give that apk to anyone here in the community though for a couple weeks after, once I feel comfortable enough to slap a beta1 onto it. We are already running the first test transactions through it now..
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: maemon on May 24, 2016, 12:59:28 pm
How would it actually differ from the current app? and will it be open source like the current wallet?

Thanks again!
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 24, 2016, 01:56:12 pm
How would it actually differ from the current app? and will it be open source like the current wallet?
Thanks again!

Open Source == Always :)
 
The new mobile wallet is so fast because I used android-native for this one instead of running apache cordova and shittons of overhead (although now there is a wallet on my github (/kenCode-de) that anyone can fork and brand, etc).
The new mobile wallet will not have a Finder or Exchange screens, nobody seemed to care about those features, so I moved that capital into this new wallet instead. 
The new mobile wallet will have these features:
https://steemit.com/crypto-news/[member=30868]kenCode[/member]/all-cryptocurrency-mobile-wallets-should-have-these-features
more screenshots:
https://steemit.com/crypto-news/[member=30868]kenCode[/member]/the-new-android-native-smartcoins-wallet
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on May 25, 2016, 07:49:33 pm
As per my mountain of comments above, I now see I am not the only one having a hard time trying to get into the apple app store...
https://news.bitcoin.com/apple-ban-ethereum-ios/
Title: Re: OPENPOS :: Smartcoins Point Of Sale (POS) & BitShares Wallet for Android/iPhone
Post by: kenCode on June 02, 2016, 06:57:54 pm
OPENPOS has been hugely successful! We managed to create 5 different products so far!

 
Smartcoins POS has been renamed to BlockPOS and that thread can be found here:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22576.0/all.html
 
..and on Steemit.com:
https://steemit.com/crypto-news/[member=30868]kenCode[/member]/ann-blockpos--the-app-that-allows-any-business-to-accept-any-crypto-currency-at-zero
 
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