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Just some example based on global traffic on websites according to alexa.


global rank

~4.700 Bittrex volume  $27 Million
~6.000 Poloniex volume  $29 Million
~7.300 Yobit volume  $15 Million
~13.000 kraken volume  $120 Million
~13.000 upbit volume  $151 Million
~28.000 gate.io volume  $36 Million
~34.000 livecoin volume  $10 Million
~46.000 btc alpha volume    $3 Million


Now have a look at the global traffic rank according to alexa of the proposed exchanges

~170.000 Sistemkoin $59 Million
~No Data IDAX  $282 Million
~46.000 LAToken  $63 Million
~399.000 RightBTC  $126 Million
~46.000 Cointiger $115 Million

Based on that Data you can clearly see that non of the bottom exchanges could even compete with Livecoin.I would even claim all would even lose the comparing against BTC-Alpha massivly which has Rank 87 and a trading volume of $3 Million.

Nice job. If we have option between livecoin and for example coinsuper, then I will support livecoin, but we don't. The question is, if we have an opportunity to have coinsuper to list bitCNY, should we accept it or refuse it?

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可以去搜一下见证人相关的教程。最便宜的机器,不做备份的话,100美元以内就可以了。

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我认为发展智能货币的方向没错,但是战术上犯了很严重的错误,整体都太激进了,导致大部分支持者都成了陪葬。如果能吸取教训,不要抵押加杠杆,而是拿bitCNY去做应用和支付,会慢慢恢复,但估计需要很久。
DEX和多签资产管理都是不错的特性,值得推广,但不够爆点。匿名交易似乎是个爆点,但是推广有风险。

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Would rather this worker proposal go towards paying listing fee + some bonus bounty for the person who lobbied it. This is how you get listed, yep most exchanges are fake volume but nobody cares when it can bring new actual users to Bitshares. I'd support this with our vote with the above change^.

I would like to support the change too. How do you think @bitcrab ?

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The offer's are a joke.
Give me any exchange and i will get it in next 7 days to top 50 on CMC and will take the easy bounty for it.
Instead of looking into the Top 50 CMC which majority is faked one you should create a list of serious exchanges we target.
However i can predict none of the serious exchanges will currently list any bitasset expecially being now riksed getting a global settlement.
Thats another effect of BSIP42 that reputated exchanges won't touch it as the amount of risk of losing own trust and reputation is way to high than the benefit of listing bitassets.
Thats simple business logic.
Instant of using these 9 million BTS for noname and novolume exchanges use it for marketing to get bitshares popular and the demand for bitassets will come itself instead of trying to add an undemanded asset with high risk on low reputation exchanges

To be qualified for the bounty, a top 50 exchange has to list bitCNY and BTS and keep their ranking for at least 2 months, that's much higher cost than the rewards. I doubt exchange would play tricks just for the bounty. Even 300K BTS is not a big number at current price. 
If I remember correctly, we spent millions of BTS for listing on binance.com and aex.com, when the BTS price was much higher than now.
BTW, I really agree that we should spend most of the money for top 5 exchanges.

Binance has real volume and getting listed there also increases reputation.However Binance would never list currently bitassets.You can trust me on that since i worked a lot with Binance in the past.AEX is also a legit exchange which had history even i don't like them much as they got many scam coins listed from early crypto times.
However they are working legit as exchange and prodviding a nice support for both chinese and international traders.

But the mentioned exchanges in this topic are just horrible.Have no real volume,no reputation their support sucks and will only lead to massiv complaints.
And you are wrong exchanges are creating fake volume to send out their so called representatives which contact projects via telegram and ask if a coin wants to get listed on a Top 50 CMC exchange where in reality they are not even in TOP 100.
They demand everything from 2-21 BTC for listing in hope a stupid project agrees on their terms.
What they do after listing is creating wash trading so the customer who spend on listing is happy to have some volume on CMC to make his project look legit.
However this kind of volume is not needed for bitshares and will only lead to massiv complaints and a lose of reputation.
Bitshares is mostly listed on top exchanges and thats why it has a good reputation.Starting listing its bitassets on scam exchanges will only lead to a reduction of bitshares positiv reputation.

Show me one legit exchange people offered here.
Bitcrab mentioned RightBTC.
Eric Gu the owner of RightBTC is being accused of scamming Zengold investors and has now enough trouble with ETP and its unnatural pump and dumps.
The exchange was created since he planned to move his company to Dubai from China but couldn't find any serious partner there so he decided to move his company to HK.
RightBTC is a project which gets no attention from him and was basicly created to create fake volume for ETP and ZGC which were excluded after a time from CMC as it was so obvious that the volume was manipulated by x1000
Thanks for your input, it seems you are really familiar with the exchanges stuff, I appreciate it because we do need an adviser for this and hope you can contribute somehow instead of complaining. Anyways, bitCNY/bitUSD is not exploited as base currency by any decent exchange yet.

Then how about coinsuper.com and idax.pro? both of them are top 20 exchanges, but I am not sure about their real volume. They ask for not much, 4-5 bitcoin. As I know coinsuper is a Hongkong exchange with license and fiat channel.


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中文(Chinese) / Re: 呼吁见证人重启BSIP42喂价
« on: November 29, 2018, 06:32:39 am »
在zb aex等交易所还没恢复bitCNY充提之前,目前黄单无法消化,我也建议暂时不要退出BSIP42

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中文(Chinese) / Re: 关于建立社区多签投票账户的提议
« on: November 29, 2018, 04:48:21 am »
有用吗?能不能先做事在拉票。小散提的建议一个都听不见去

BTS的特点就是有票才能做事。比如很多见证人目前不按照BSIP42喂价,而是喂现价,就是因为BSIP42反对票大于支持票了。

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我同意天籁的观点,连USDT都不承诺1比1兑换了。 5个点以内的波动是可以接受的,否则要牺牲的东西太多了。我们是抵押产生的稳定币,相对BTC这些已经算是稳定币了,没必要去跟GUSD USDT这些比。 稳定币在BTS市值达到一定高度之前,发行量都不足以成大事儿。现阶段应该大力发展交易所功能,同时在保证系统安全的前提下推动bitCNY多上交易所作为基础交易对。

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中文(Chinese) / 关于建立社区多签投票账户的提议
« on: November 27, 2018, 12:35:05 pm »
近期市场大跌,比特股也不能幸免,bitUSD甚至出现了黑天鹅。由于部分社区普通用户不能很好的理解BSIP42,负反馈喂价等等改革措施,将市场大跌跟近期一系列的改革联系到一起,认为跟理事会以及见证人群体操纵有关,甚至有不理性的用户做出发布谣言等过激行为。

为了体现BTS的去中心化治理的精神,将BTS的治理进一步交给社区,经过微信群内的充分讨论,本人代为发布该提议:

1、设置多签投票账户 cn-vote(#1148184),控制方为社区公认的意见领袖或者对理事会/见证人之前的决定有异议的用户。
2、社区意见领袖可以在社区内广泛拉票,特别是要争取中心化交易所的BTS回流内盘,并说服大家把投票权代理给该账户。
3、对重大升级或者发展提案进行投票,代表广大普通用户的意见。

第一批签名者为:国安(bts04),舞天非月(zmm00500),嘟嘟(fangli0755), 德森(aboy),东方的大鸟(bj13586273511),雨卦(yjl20170630),键盘敲很轻(bts-king110),凡阳(h15208255013), KUCCI(kkdskkds123),教授(bts0502)

其他多签者为观察员角色。

大家可以推荐或者自荐更多的愿意为社区做贡献的意见领袖或者布道者参与到多签投票中来,也欢迎大家将闲置的BTS利用起来,代理投票权给cn-vote.

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The offer's are a joke.
Give me any exchange and i will get it in next 7 days to top 50 on CMC and will take the easy bounty for it.
Instead of looking into the Top 50 CMC which majority is faked one you should create a list of serious exchanges we target.
However i can predict none of the serious exchanges will currently list any bitasset expecially being now riksed getting a global settlement.
Thats another effect of BSIP42 that reputated exchanges won't touch it as the amount of risk of losing own trust and reputation is way to high than the benefit of listing bitassets.
Thats simple business logic.
Instant of using these 9 million BTS for noname and novolume exchanges use it for marketing to get bitshares popular and the demand for bitassets will come itself instead of trying to add an undemanded asset with high risk on low reputation exchanges

To be qualified for the bounty, a top 50 exchange has to list bitCNY and BTS and keep their ranking for at least 2 months, that's much higher cost than the rewards. I doubt exchange would play tricks just for the bounty. Even 300K BTS is not a big number at current price. 
If I remember correctly, we spent millions of BTS for listing on binance.com and aex.com, when the BTS price was much higher than now.
BTW, I really agree that we should spend most of the money for top 5 exchanges.

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Just to note that bione.cc is going to list BTS and open the bitcny trading zone.

bione.cc is a new exchange but have top 20 trading volume, though some of the volume is not that reliable, but I feel like top 50 is their right place.

They ask for 7 ETH plus 300k BTS for listing fee and marketing.

How about pay 500K BTS in total for all cost including the compensation for lobbyists?

Do you have a link to them in CMC?

I am told that it's a new exchange therefore CMC hasn't listed them, but you can check their info from another website similar to CMC :https://www.feixiaohao.com/exchange/bione/

Anyway, I haven't made my mind to pay them yet, however, as they are showing interests in bitCNY and BTS, at least we can put this exchange on the watch list. After all, cointiger is the only exchange with bitcny trading zone, and we need more of them.

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Just to note that bione.cc is going to list BTS and open the bitcny trading zone.

bione.cc is a new exchange but have top 20 trading volume, though some of the volume is not that reliable, but I feel like top 50 is their right place.

They ask for 7 ETH plus 300k BTS for listing fee and marketing.

How about pay 500K BTS in total for all cost including the compensation for lobbyists? 

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喂价负反馈没失败,而是已经成功了。失败的是赌BTS价格上涨的赌徒们。

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不至于,价格就算跌到1毛,BTS还是交易所,还是资产管理平台,只是bitCNY可能会被废掉。

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cointiger azex 估计两到三个月内会有3家左右上。

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