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I can get us listed on any of these in the next 3-4 weeks for bitCNY and BTS if we can make arrangements for the account to pay the listing fee:

LATOKEN (number 20)
IDCM (number 25)
HotBit (number 42)
Exrates (number 34)

The above are reasonable/standard level fees with decent offers negotiated considering their ranking (in my view).

I can also get us listed on IDAX (number 8.) but the cost is higher and they were less willing to come down.

I share DLs view some are better than others so am not suggesting we go with all, I just think for sure one of those is just as worthy of listing/bounty as biki :)

I appreciate your work. Since the left fund is about 1.6 million. Personally I think it's still enough to cove the cost of a top exchange(top 10) and a medium exchange(top 40). what do you think?

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Once again the community has been excluded to voice their opinion on the proposed exchange even the worker clearly said it needs to be posted public before a request of funds can be made.

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People who want to work as lobbyists need to comment on the work proposal thread and leave the information of bts account, email and which exchanges he/she want to lobby, if finally the exchange open smartcoin market, the lobbyist need to provide evidence that it’s his/her work that make things happen.


Its a waste of BTS which will bring only wash trading and nothing more.
I'm tired of always these smart scammy moves to reach personal goals.

Please stop spamming with fabricated facts, thanks. I don't want to slap your face but everyone can check the time I announced that "will move on to another exchange having similar rank with coinsuper(Feb 19th)", the time I announce biki in the post (March 16th)and the time I proposal the fund transfer(March 18).

Also, you may check the transaction history, the fund didn't go to my account, instead, it goes to exchange to sell for listing fee, lobbyist, marketing, and the rest is reserved for marketing making. I have shared the listing/payment agreement within committee group. Those documents can not be shared publicly due to NDA with the exchange.

The bitCNY on biki will facilitate with the quantitative and hedging trading of bots, therefore, it's really important to have one exchange to list bitCNY ASAP.   

I would really suggest you stop wasting time complaining on other people's work but do something meaningful to the community, for example, contact a better exchange.

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7\ Get funded from account "smartcoin-marketing". This account is multisignatured by the committee.(two days)

I checked on-chain, the payout of that has already happen. The description of that worker is quite clear when bounty payments should happen.

@ripplexiaoshan and at all committee members: Can you please comment on that?

As the exchange will only list bitCNY after receiving fund, so we have to send money to them first. An improvised makeshift  is that the lobbyist covers the loss/pay it back if bitCNY got delisted or the exchange miss the criteria within 60 days.

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I have applied 436,406 BTS from smartcoin-marketing for the whole bitCNY&BTS listing work on biki.com. This fund includes the listing fee and bounty reward. Due to NDA with biki.com, the exact number can not be disclosed publicly, but I have shared it within the committee group, and you can estimate it through the total amount.

Other than the listing fee, the rest is used to reward the lobbyists, including @guoan(founder of "BTS 100 cities 100 shops plan", main contributor), gbac(Linda, Jademont, organizer and coordinator). Also, possible transaction fee for providing liquidity at the first month and marketing fee are also included.

By 'applied' do you mean requested? I can't see Biki on CMC.

I have listing options in top 50 but there is no clarity on how funds are applied for. I've messaged Bitcrab but no response.

Please excuse my English.


Here is the summary of my working flow with biki.com:

1\Guoan introduced this exchange to me, I did some basic research about its reputation, trading volume, rank, etc...(one-two weeks)

2\Then we contacted the exchange to get more details, including listing fee and conditions.(one week)

3\ Then we prepared and submitted the application form to the exchange, after the exchange confirmed, I asked for the comments from community and committee. (one week)

4\We then prepared the listing agreement(in English), and then contacted BitShares Foundation (one week)

5\ After the Foundation revised and confirmed the final agreement, get it back to the exchange. (two weeks)

6\ Both the Foundation and exchange signed the agreement.(One week)

7\ Get funded from account "smartcoin-marketing". This account is multisignatured by the committee.(two days)

8\Pay listing fee to the exchange, and help them with technical issues and marketing.(one week)

9\ Announce it to the community


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You can check my claims on the chinese weibo chat of zengold.

There is now a police report filled against Eric Gu in China.

There are big Investors who got scammed in Million's USD who are activly working to push the chinese government to take action.




About Biki why don't you post real facts about exchanges you wanna add bitcny ?Like real volume and what volume you expect to achieve on biki ?

Because i still keep saying its a waste of resources and nothing more.
How old is the mentioned exchange ?2 months ?

You want i can list bitcny on 10 shit exchanges which are top 50 on cmc.But i would be ashamed of myself for the results it would get for the amount spent.

Legit exchanges would be as example

hitbtc
bit-z


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BTW, one month has past, where is your solution?
I'm working on it with somebody from OL and some other programers.It will be avaibable after the hard fork.

Thanks for reminding, here are some facts about biki.com, you can also do the research from google/baidu.

1\biki.com, previously bikicoin.com was founded in Singapore in June of 2018, it is relatively new but fast growing.

2\ According to https://www.feixiaohao.com/exchange/, biki.com ranks 12, registered accounts are over 500,000, reported DAU is over tens of thousands. Personally I think it belongs to top 20 exchanges on all aspects.

3\ If you call biki.com shit exchange, hitbtc is absolutely more worthy of this name, most of coins on hitbtc have zero volume and withdraw/deposit often have problem.  I have already approached bit-z, they asks for 5 times the listing fee.  I know biki.com is not a top exchange, but we have to consider the cost at the same time, we have to start from one exchange anyways, right?

4\Hope to see your solution ASAP,, if it is related to marketing dividends, then I think I know what you mean, but it is another topic, nothing with the liquidity of bitCNY.

BTW, What the hell of Eric Gu? Isn't it off topic? We have given up rightbtc after evaluation.

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I have applied 436,406 BTS from smartcoin-marketing for the whole bitCNY&BTS listing work on biki.com. This fund includes the listing fee and bounty reward. Due to NDA with biki.com, the exact number can not be disclosed publicly, but I have shared it within the committee group, and you can estimate it through the total amount.

Other than the listing fee, the rest is used to reward the lobbyists, including @guoan(founder of "BTS 100 cities 100 shops plan", main contributor), gbac(Linda, Jademont, organizer and coordinator). Also, possible transaction fee for providing liquidity at the first month and marketing fee are also included.

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BTSPP钱包应该是唯一一个开源的APP钱包吧,如果core team能出人审一下代码没大问题,那么完全可以放到官网上供下载,成为官方钱包。体验上已经能实现轻钱包的大部分功能了,也很流畅。

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Just some example based on global traffic on websites according to alexa.


global rank

~4.700 Bittrex volume  $27 Million
~6.000 Poloniex volume  $29 Million
~7.300 Yobit volume  $15 Million
~13.000 kraken volume  $120 Million
~13.000 upbit volume  $151 Million
~28.000 gate.io volume  $36 Million
~34.000 livecoin volume  $10 Million
~46.000 btc alpha volume    $3 Million


Now have a look at the global traffic rank according to alexa of the proposed exchanges

~170.000 Sistemkoin $59 Million
~No Data IDAX  $282 Million
~46.000 LAToken  $63 Million
~399.000 RightBTC  $126 Million
~46.000 Cointiger $115 Million

Based on that Data you can clearly see that non of the bottom exchanges could even compete with Livecoin.I would even claim all would even lose the comparing against BTC-Alpha massivly which has Rank 87 and a trading volume of $3 Million.

LaToken has a fake volume generated by the exchange itself + numerous complaints through listings reported in Japan.

What is the number and what is the reality are 2 completely different things, and I suggest before anyone proceed with burning the funds based on Google research without a single interaction with mentioned exchange or at least account with some more experience to be proved - just forget about it.

Most important thing, this was about listing of BitUSD and BitCNY, where USD is currently under BS and not eligible for any listing at all.

Doing nothing is the easiest way also the laziest way, unless you have better solution to provide more liquidity for bitCNY/bitUSD.

Start proper marketing instead overpaying exchange listing.
I'm currently not much online because of some offline activity.I will be back next week and will be publishing my own proposals which i created before.


How does it come i never heard about coinsuper before ?

Ahh i know
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/coinsuper.com

One of the smallest exchanges which exist with 99,9% fake volume and many bad reviews about insta dumping.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4939930.0
How much are you going to pay them ?If you want i will open tomorrow also a new exchange and will wash trade it to top 25 on CMC.
How many BTS are you going to pay me for listing bitcny on that exchange ?

I mean seriously you are playing with funds and don't even do your homework where you are going to list BTS or bitcny.

Thats the same like througing away BTS from the window.


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bitCNY was rejected at the final step, as we don't have legal opinion letter for it
Any legit exchange will reject bitcny for the same reason.They demand legal opinion letters to list a coin.

The bitcointalk post you referred has no reply, so I can not judge the authenticity only from that post, not to mention that all CEX have many negative comments. We don't like any CEX, but we count on them to provide more liquidity for bitCNY. 

BTW, one month has past, where is your solution?

I am approaching biki.com(bikicoin.com) to list bitCNY, this time I hope we will make it.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: please vote witness :xman & abc123
« on: February 19, 2019, 05:01:08 am »
price feeding is back to normal, please vote for xabc123/xman

My English is not good, btsabc.org  provides tutorials, web wallets and API nodes for the Chinese community.Witness account abc123
http://www.btsabc.org/
Thanks

Support!

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Just some example based on global traffic on websites according to alexa.


global rank

~4.700 Bittrex volume  $27 Million
~6.000 Poloniex volume  $29 Million
~7.300 Yobit volume  $15 Million
~13.000 kraken volume  $120 Million
~13.000 upbit volume  $151 Million
~28.000 gate.io volume  $36 Million
~34.000 livecoin volume  $10 Million
~46.000 btc alpha volume    $3 Million


Now have a look at the global traffic rank according to alexa of the proposed exchanges

~170.000 Sistemkoin $59 Million
~No Data IDAX  $282 Million
~46.000 LAToken  $63 Million
~399.000 RightBTC  $126 Million
~46.000 Cointiger $115 Million

Based on that Data you can clearly see that non of the bottom exchanges could even compete with Livecoin.I would even claim all would even lose the comparing against BTC-Alpha massivly which has Rank 87 and a trading volume of $3 Million.

LaToken has a fake volume generated by the exchange itself + numerous complaints through listings reported in Japan.

What is the number and what is the reality are 2 completely different things, and I suggest before anyone proceed with burning the funds based on Google research without a single interaction with mentioned exchange or at least account with some more experience to be proved - just forget about it.

Most important thing, this was about listing of BitUSD and BitCNY, where USD is currently under BS and not eligible for any listing at all.

Doing nothing is the easiest way also the laziest way, unless you have better solution to provide more liquidity for bitCNY/bitUSD.

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I would like to update the status of the work on our side.

We contacted coinsuper exchange and prepared a lot of documents for listing bitCNY&BTS(thanks to the Foundation), however, bitCNY was rejected at the final step, as we don't have legal opinion letter for it, though they are interested in listing BTS itself. They recognized bitCNY as one kind of derivative, instead of utility token.

It's bad but it means it's more necessary to make bitCNY liquid on CEX ASAP, considering the more and more conservative regulatory environment all over the world, and more and more legal stable coin competitors (USDT USDC TUSD....)

We will move on to next exchange which has roughly same ranks with coinsuper.

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Just some example based on global traffic on websites according to alexa.


global rank

~4.700 Bittrex volume  $27 Million
~6.000 Poloniex volume  $29 Million
~7.300 Yobit volume  $15 Million
~13.000 kraken volume  $120 Million
~13.000 upbit volume  $151 Million
~28.000 gate.io volume  $36 Million
~34.000 livecoin volume  $10 Million
~46.000 btc alpha volume    $3 Million


Now have a look at the global traffic rank according to alexa of the proposed exchanges

~170.000 Sistemkoin $59 Million
~No Data IDAX  $282 Million
~46.000 LAToken  $63 Million
~399.000 RightBTC  $126 Million
~46.000 Cointiger $115 Million

Based on that Data you can clearly see that non of the bottom exchanges could even compete with Livecoin.I would even claim all would even lose the comparing against BTC-Alpha massivly which has Rank 87 and a trading volume of $3 Million.

Nice job. If we have option between livecoin and for example coinsuper, then I will support livecoin, but we don't. The question is, if we have an opportunity to have coinsuper to list bitCNY, should we accept it or refuse it?

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可以去搜一下见证人相关的教程。最便宜的机器,不做备份的话,100美元以内就可以了。

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我认为发展智能货币的方向没错,但是战术上犯了很严重的错误,整体都太激进了,导致大部分支持者都成了陪葬。如果能吸取教训,不要抵押加杠杆,而是拿bitCNY去做应用和支付,会慢慢恢复,但估计需要很久。
DEX和多签资产管理都是不错的特性,值得推广,但不够爆点。匿名交易似乎是个爆点,但是推广有风险。

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Would rather this worker proposal go towards paying listing fee + some bonus bounty for the person who lobbied it. This is how you get listed, yep most exchanges are fake volume but nobody cares when it can bring new actual users to Bitshares. I'd support this with our vote with the above change^.

I would like to support the change too. How do you think @bitcrab ?

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