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General Discussion / begin working on bond market?
« on: March 08, 2017, 05:30:36 am »
I submitted a story at https://steemit.com/bitshares/@bitcrab/fork-bitshares , generally speaking it is about how can bitshares make big advance, thanks to the reply from @xeroc, I now feel the community have big consensus on 2 new features - bond market and conditional payment(in other words escrow service).

if you search "bond market" you can find tons of discussions in the forum, most people believe that bond market is a killer app that can bring huge smartcoin liquidity.

in Bitshares roadmap  2017, "bond market" is listed but with the status "not started",   we have talked too much on this new featue and now it's time to begin working on it, and in my view this is a priority 1 task.

as @xeroc told, "A bond market could be huge, all we need is funding and a development team to get this started. It's not like there isn't enough work, it's the funding that is needed and a lot of people are working on this behind the scenes."

so I wonder how much will such a new feature cost? and if the fund can be collected by worker can we start to organize the development team and work for it in short time?

I believe this will be supported by the community, including the China community.

 

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中文 (Chinese) / 机器人的新使命
« on: February 25, 2017, 04:46:20 am »
只在内盘利用各种差价赚钱是远远不够的,机器人应该尝试连接内盘和外盘+果盘,在引流方面发挥更大的作用。

老外们很愿意用USDT来1:1地换取bitUSD, 这就是说,p网和内盘已经是可以互相对冲的市场了,用机器人在p网的BTC/USDT交易对和内盘的BTC/bitUSD交易对之间对冲/搬砖应该是挺有前途的一件事。

另一方面,在315果盘提现解禁之后,在果盘BTC/CNY和内盘BTC/bitCNY交易对之间做对冲+搬砖也会大有可为。

如果这些量能够做起来,那么bitUSD/bitCNY交易对也会自然而然地活跃起来。

撸袖子干吧。





153
General Discussion / conditional payment feature?
« on: February 15, 2017, 09:50:32 am »
in China exchanges, BTC  withdrawl are banned for 1 month until the AML measurements are ready, so now many BTC traders go for outside dealings.

DEX is good as people can deposit CNY  inside and then buy BTC from OpenLedger, which is outside of China goverment's control area. however, now the step of "deposit CNY" highly depend on transwiser, if one day the volume become too big to ignore, it's also possible that the China government to ban the business of transwiser.

maybe we can get help from "P2P gateway", however, to make "P2P gateway" feasible, I feel we need a new feature that can be called "conditional payment".

A want to buy100 bitCNY by paying 100 fiat CNY, so he contact B and they agree to make the deal, then B create a "conditional payment" to A for 100 bitCNY, ATM the 100 bitCNY is locked there, when B get 100 fiat CNY payment from A, then he confirm the "conditional payment" and A get the 100 bitCNY。

a "expiration time" can be set that if B neither confirm nor do anything else then after the expiration time the 100 bitCNY will automatically reach A's account.

if something happen that A and B need to cancel the deal then B can request "refund" and get the 100 bitCNY back if A confirm the refund.

if dispute happen, then an escrow, which is defined when the payment is created, will be introduced to decide how to distribute the locked fund.

this "conditional payment"  is useful not only for BTC outside dealing, but also for scenarios like trading goods, international outsourcing, etc,.

possible to introduce this new feature? any thoughts?

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中文 (Chinese) / 如何评估一个开发worker?
« on: February 13, 2017, 04:00:26 pm »
1.从全局的角度看,这个项目是否有益?是否走在一个正确的技术路线上?
2.开发者是否足够专业?所申请的工资是否合理?

每次有一个新发布的worker,投票时都要被这些问题折磨,对于“是否走在一个正确的技术路线上”这个问题尤其难以判断,非常需要技术大牛们提供意见。

当前情况下,我不认为“反对所有增发”是一种正确的选择,对于有意义的合理的worker支持是更合理的选择。目前的区块链开源社区,没有几个程序员是不拿钱白干的,他们要么从属于某个项目,要么以外包的形式干活拿钱。

难点在于评估和取舍这些worker,就xeroc刚刚发布的worker uptick而言,中国社区能看到的讨论都集中在第二个问题上,而且持强烈的负面态度,然而似乎并没有看到这些负面态度有足够认真严肃的证据支持。听起来更象是“我反对增发,你不够专业,你工资太高”的惯常叫喊。

希望能有更多更认真严肃的讨论,如写在这里不便,可以到QQ群里讨论。





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Stakeholder Proposals / [Worker Proposal] Advertisement at 8btc
« on: February 11, 2017, 04:22:40 pm »
recently China goverment took some actions to restrict/regulate the service provided by cryptoexchanges such as OKcoin, huobi, BTCC, yunbi etc., now it's a good time to promote DEX service in China, I plan to do advertisement at 8btc, the most popular website for blockchain and cryptocurrency in China, below is the details:

an advertise picture that link to https://bitshares.org/wallet/#/dashboard will be put to the up right side of the homepage of 8btc.com or www.8btc.com, as below:

several advertisement pictures will share the place, and one occupy at least 25% of the time.

8btc charge 2BTC/month for this kind of advertisement,I will put in the advertisement for 1 month, which need 2BTC, I will offer 1BTC, and I create this worker to collect the left fund.

the worker will last 1month, totally 252000 BTS, daily pay 8400 BTS.

the advertisement will be online in one week.

your support is appreciated!





156
Stakeholder Proposals / Proxy: bitcrab - make the ecosystem grow
« on: January 22, 2017, 06:25:19 am »
bitcrab, member of Bitshares Committee, owner of witness "jerryliu" and founder of gateway transwiser.

as proxy, bitcrab will vote following below principles:

about Committee:

vote for the candidates that actively contribute to community, has a deep understanding to the Bitshares ecosystem, able to discuss and propose constructively, and widly accepted by the community.

about witness:

vote for the witenesses that provide stable and secure block generation service and qualified price feeding service (at least provide BitCNY and BitUSD price feeding). try to adjust the witness payment to a reasonable level to encourage contribution.

about worker proposal:

vote for some refund proposal to set a high enough threshold for worker proposal, vote to the worker proposals that really make sense and with reasonable budget。try to make the development organization more reasonable and effective.

let's make Bitshares great again! thanks for voting for proxy bitcrab!

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bitcrab,巨蟹,比特股理事会成员,见证人jerryliu运行者,网关transwiser创建者。

作为投票代理,bitcrab秉持以下理念进行投票:

关于理事会:
尽量参加每周Mumble会议,积极促进中国社区与国际社区的沟通和理解,共同促进比特股生态繁荣。投票给那些积极参与社区建设,对生态建设有较深入的理解,社区较为认同的候选理事。

关于见证人:
投票给提供稳定安全服务,并且能够提供足够准确喂价服务(目前要求至少提供BitCNY和BitUSD的喂价)的见证人,促成见证人获取合理报酬。

关于预算项目:
通过投票给一定的refund项目为预算项目设置足够高门槛,投票给那些有价值且预算合理的项目。尽力通过更多的沟通和组织使开发工作更加顺畅合理高效。

感谢你的投票!让我们共同促进比特股生态的繁荣!

157
General Discussion / plan for sidechain?
« on: January 20, 2017, 03:51:37 am »
there has been many discussion about BTS being one sidechain of bitcoin in the past, like https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21263.0.html,  seems the solution is possible with risk.

recently, it is said steem and peerplay is on the progress of sidechain development, I even saw a pic as below:

but sounds BTS are not included in the development plan? do not know the details.

and Ronny has said OpenLedger will introduce sidechain in 1-2 years.

some teams around the world like cosmos, antshares are developing something called  blockchain interoperability protocol.

BTS definitely need sidechain or other blockchain interoperability solutions to connect to bitcoin and ethereum, but how to plan and organize the development?

158
General Discussion / DAC or DAO? do we really need dividend?
« on: January 16, 2017, 05:17:01 am »
what's the difference between Bitshares and a traditional company?

a key difference is, in Bitshares, almost all the users are at the same time shareholders, BTS is not only the share of Bitshares, but also the token/fuel for using Bitshares service. but in traditional company, this seldom happen, only a very small part of iPone users are at the same time shareholders of Apple.

the price of BTS depend little on dividends, but greatly on the traction to users. a enough low fee is more important to the active users(also shareholders) than some little dividends, dividends don't play an important role in a blockchain platform, there's no dividends in Bitcoin, Ethereum but these communities grow much bigger than Bitshares. 

if we pay dividends by charging more fees, the active users(they are also shareholders) will be hurt,  and finally the ecosystem will also be hurt, maybe some pure shareholders is happy, but how can they bring?

sometimes I feel the word "DAC" is a little misleading, maybe "DAO"(decentralized autonomous organization) is better. I even feel we should forget dividends.

I am very sure that China community will reject any proposal for paying dividends with charging more fees.

159
General Discussion / how about to raise block reward?
« on: January 12, 2017, 12:41:09 pm »
with the growing of the ecosystem, the community begin to demand more on witnesses.

one thing is price feeding, while the DEX trading volume keep on growing, the price feeding become more important than before, shorters need witnesses to provide high quality price feeding service to avoid man made margin call or force settlement transactions.

and to keep the growing network healthy, there are also requirements for witness to imporve hardware.

however, as @rnglab has summarized at https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,23607.msg301580.html#msg301580, comparing to the demand to witnesses, witnesses is at a very low profit and do not have enough incentive to upgrade their service, we even can see some witnesses have forgotten their witness nodes.

these are reluctant, a blockchain platform should depend not only on the enthusiasm of volunteers, but also on some business model that can guarntee the basic service to continue, and to attract new comers, we do not like the energy wasting mining of Bitcoin, but at the business model side it is effective to keep the ecosystem growing, we can learn something from the mining model of Bitcoin. 

so now I propose to raise the block reward, currently the reward is 1.5BTS/block, now three options are given: 3BTS/block, 5BTS/block, 8BTS/block. each correspond to an annual dilution ratio of 1.22%, 2.04%, 3.22%, completely acceptable.

what we can forcast is, after the block reward rise, witnesses will more positively upgrade their hardware and service, more new comers will join the witnesses group and we will have a bigger node pool to choose the best witnesses. and I believe some interesting thing will happen.

I have proposed this in China community, up to now the response is mainly positive. now I propose here, hope everyone can express your opinion on this, I believe we now need to seriously consider and evaluate this proposal.

please also consider that the system has daily budget (witness+worker), today the budget is 349297 BTS, which means 12 BTS/block if they are totally paid to witnesses, and the daily budget is dynamic and shrinking if I am correct.

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中文 (Chinese) / 你赞同增加出块奖励吗?
« on: January 11, 2017, 07:33:11 am »
随着内盘交易量的不断增长,喂价变得越来越重要,对见证人喂价质量的要求正在变得越来越高。

而且,就确保一个不断成长的网络的健康而言,对节点还有一些其它方面的要求正在出现,例如@rnglabhttps://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,23607.msg301580.html#msg301580 所提出的,每个见证人拥有两个8G的节点,也许是做到能够自动识别分叉并切换的最低技术要求。

还有,我一直认为,当前25个节点是很不够的,在可预见的将来,需要最低达到50个以上。

与这些要求相比,在见证人端却一直都很缺乏经济激励,正如前面链接中的总结,目前见证人节点收入非常微薄,见证人缺乏足够的收入来升级硬件,提升服务,甚至有见证人已经忘记了自己的节点。

这一切都是非常不正常的,一个区块链平台不能只靠基于热爱的志愿者来维护。它必须有一定的经济模型,来保证所需要的服务可持续并且能不断提升,不断吸引更多的人参与。这方面,比特币的挖矿模式虽然耗能严重,但在建立良好的经济激励方面却非常有效,比特股应该从中借鉴一些东西。

我的建议是,提高出块奖励,把当前的1.5BTS/块提高的3BTS/块。
目前出块奖励带来的年化通胀是0.6%,翻倍后1.2%,这一比例是完全可以接受的。

可以预见的是,提高出块奖励之后,见证人会更积极地提升硬件和服务,更多的候选见证人会出现,社区也会对见证人提出更高的要求。这些都更有利于社区生态的发展。

你赞同吗?




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General Discussion / about witness "bue"
« on: January 11, 2017, 04:21:18 am »
according to the info I collected from China community, the man behind witness "bue" is sfinder, a famous cheater in China cryptocurrency area.
if this is the fact,  we should definitely remove "bue" from witness slate immediately, it's a shame to let a cheater hide there.
this old post shows what sfinder has done in the past: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,10937.0.html

however, I am 95%, but not 100% sure what I collected is the fact, to be careful, I set the title of this thread as "about witness "bue"" instead of "please remove "bue" from witness slate". if you know more about "bue", please post it here as proof for community to reach a decision.

to bue: if you are not sfinder, please claim here and provide evidence about who you are.

cheaters are always good at lying, so just being nice is not enough, being careful is always a must.



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Stakeholder Proposals / [Witness Proposal] jerryliu
« on: January 10, 2017, 02:06:08 pm »
kindly vote witness node "jerryliu".

I am not senior in programming or administration, so I get help from @alt and @boombastic and some other developers. and as an active trader/market maket I will keep on caring the market and also the witness status everyday.

at beginning I'll run alt's btsprice script to feed price for bitCNY and bitUSD, later will feed price for other key smartcoins.

Server Specs: Linode VPS, 6 Cores, 12G, Tokyo.

Appreciate your vote!
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不多说了,希望大家为我的见证人投上一票:
见证人账号:jerryliu
见证人 id:1.6.72
见证人服务器配置:Linode 6核,12G 内存,东京

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General Discussion / btc38 hacked and 10M BTS stolen
« on: December 22, 2016, 02:19:50 am »
as btc38 officially said, due to "server logic error", they lost more than 10M BTS, more than 10M NXT and some BTC/LTC from the hot wallet, which totally worth about 1.5M CNY.

it seems below is the hacker's BTS account:


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@alt has worked on his private project btsbots https://github.com/pch957/btsbots for long time, he adopt some special archtecture in this project for high throughoutput, simply speaking, at server side one new layer is added to the api node, this layer subscribe transaction data from lower layer, preprocess it and generate a new database which suit for clients' query, and provide these data to client through meteor's ddp protocol.

while the "new api node" provide data such as open orders, transaction history, encrypt memos there's no need for api request to witness-node,only when client need to broadcast new transaction an api request to witness-node is needed. under this design the server side can handle higher throughoutput.

we are now considering one possiblility: is it possible to build general rest API for DEX based on this architecture? if yes we can have general http api for DEX with good throughoutput capacity, it is definitely good news for current and potential bot runners and will attract more users to DEX.

as alt said he hasn't design general APIs while develop btsbots, however he can develop them if there is clear demand, if he works 5 hours per day, he can finish the work in no more than one month.

I'd like to get more inputs on this idea, will this help BTS a lot? is the archtechture suitable for public usage? if the feedback is positive enough we can begin the next step.

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General Discussion / more professional price feed?
« on: December 20, 2016, 05:35:27 am »
just did a little test, as yunbi has very low market depth, I bought 1.1BTS at price 0.0289CNY. before that the BTS price of all CNY market is about 0.0283.


then what happened is, a lot of witness began to feed 0.0289 as bitCNY price, and then about half an hour later, the settlement price changed from below 0.0284 to 0.0289.


if our witnesses just get price from yunbi and publish as feed price, then it will be dangerous, yunbi has very low market depth, it will be possible for some people to manipulate the price and make benefit without big difficulty.

hope witnesses can update their feed script to do more professional price feed.

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