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Offline godzirra

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7 Delegates! How much bts is that?

Offline lil_jay890

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Before anybody goes nuts over MineBitShares... I did mention a post coming today to talk about updates in the MineBitShares forum area. Pretty underhanded to fire off an attack like this without first seeing that.

It's actually thanks to the recent delegates getting voted in that I decided to get programming work underway. What I had saved up from our delegates that last few months wasn't even enough for the initial deposit to get started with our market cap. I had to loan out my own money to get things started. For the sake of getting the pool update delivered and not thinking people would post nutty uninformed posts like this, I did that. We lose the funding for those delegates now.. you just cut off our updates and growth at the knees when we could have had a nice shiny new competitive pool by next month. It took over 500,000 BTS just to get the additional programming work STARTED.. it takes more than 3 months of saving up every single BTS of a 100% delegate to amount to that... and we are still paying out bonuses.

I would prefer not to be put further into debt and have the project not move forward because of one rant.

Also regarding Chronos... I am pretty sure people were more in agreement to see that continue to go towards core dev.

dev.sidhujag has been down for weeks now.. all indications are he has Gensoed and should be voted down.

I believe we should keep all the minebitshares delegates in place or even vote the last 2 in.  We removed plenty of aimless 100% delegates and now have put funds toward a solid and well planned project.  I think the dilution is about the same and hopefully we see a lot more volume in bitassets.

Good job and good luck DSN!

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Before anybody goes nuts over MineBitShares... I did mention a post coming today to talk about updates in the MineBitShares forum area. Pretty underhanded to fire off an attack like this without first seeing that.

It's actually thanks to the recent delegates getting voted in that I decided to get programming work underway. What I had saved up from our delegates that last few months wasn't even enough for the initial deposit to get started with our market cap. I had to loan out my own money to get things started. For the sake of getting the pool update delivered and not thinking people would post nutty uninformed posts like this, I did that. We lose the funding for those delegates now.. you just cut off our updates and growth at the knees when we could have had a nice shiny new competitive pool by next month. It took over 500,000 BTS just to get the additional programming work STARTED.. it takes more than 3 months of saving up every single BTS of a 100% delegate to amount to that... and we are still paying out bonuses.

I would prefer not to be put further into debt and have the project not move forward because of one rant.

Also regarding Chronos... I am pretty sure people were more in agreement to see that continue to go towards core dev.

dev.sidhujag has been down for weeks now.. all indications are he has Gensoed and should be voted down.

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Offline santaclause102

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Here are my personal unvoting favorites (all 100% delegates):

Aside from https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18151.msg232045.html#msg232045

MineBitshares (5/7 (!) 100% delegates!)
I have added MineBitshares to my personal unvoting list. Why? Because it has 5 (!!) 100% delegates  in the Top 101 and 2 more 100% percent delegates at 102 and 104. I think Jonathan is a good guy with many talents but the total of 7 100% delegates we are talking about here is A LOT OF DILUTION for an unproven marketing effort! See https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16340.msg232666.html#msg232666 
Note that I asked questions first and tried to get an OBJECTIVE measure for effectiveness of this effort. The rationale is: If we scale this up from 2 to 7 minebitshares delegates there has to be OBJECTIVE proof from the 2 minebitshares delegates that were in the top 101 for many month now that this is cost effective (see the post above)

chronos.payroll.lafona has steppeddown: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16536.msg233081.html#msg233081


I am a little divided on sollywood.sollars-com. I think he is doing a great job with his videos! But his effort is a private venture and is not providing core infrastructure for Bitshares. I think it is justnot something for a delegate / even less for a worker in the future. See his proposal https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13900.0

There are no update from dev.sidhujag. I also value his efforts in the past A LOT. He just seems to not be developing actively anymore, see https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,12027.45.html

media.bitscape is still at 100, see the original post: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18151.msg232045.html#msg232045


I would encourage you to do the same and be critical of people's claims and their fancy advertisement and long talking, not necessarily because there would be some evil intent but just because the delegate concept might not make economic sense / may not be profitable for you as a BTS holder and fancy, long winded and frequent advertisement may be used to cover this.

IN THE END: If such a public discussion is not possible because one is afraid that the to be unvoted delegate may not like you anymore than that is negative for DPOS. DPOS can live without such an open public discussion too but a lot less effective.  Let's establish a culture of content focus instead of one of politics and advertisement, see https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,18196.0.html
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