为了这次空投快照，nbs社区做了大量工作，nbs链已恢复运行十余日。

Isn't NBS a completely dead chain now? No blocks being produced anymore? Worth effectively $0

In that case, why would you include it for an asset snapshot? There's no legitimate consensus on that chain anymore, so it shouldn't be an airdrop target.

Just do it against BTS only. It sucks if you were effectively scammed by the NBS folk into giving up your BTS, but including that chain in the genesis distribution is pretty much making DFS dead on arrival tbh.

> 每八小时改变一次喂价

Seems quite infrequent, it would have been far cheaper to publish a feed 4 times a day on the bitshares blockchain for new private smartcoins than to run witness nodes for a new blockchain.  DFS旨在打造公共稳定币和数字资产。

> 没有前缀“bit”。

https://defishares.org/gold.html

This page makes repeated usage of bitshares 'bitasset' terminology; calling them smartcoins or stablecoins would probably be better than to copy bitasset terminology.   主网和中文版没有前缀“bit”，英文版确实有。

> nbs链已死，已无交易所交易，市值仅供参考。

In that case, why would it deserve an airdrop? It should not be included in the airdrop at all due to its catastrophic failure.  与DFS开发进程有关

Congratulations！

You are right, I really mean bitassets - the committee owned and branded smartcoins. Thank you!

Quote from: 天籁 on January 06, 2024, 05:59:07 am

2021年之后，市场调整期间，比特股社区也做过几次智能币规则的修改尝试，试图恢复智能币的信誉，完善承兑功能。典型的一次短暂而彻底失败的尝试即所谓的负反馈精准锚定。第二次试验就是现在还在采用的方案，废弃锁死最低喂价，恢复最初的喂价方法，把黑天鹅全局清算改为最低抵押率清算，此时BitUSD市场早已全局清算，仅仅能维持BitCNY市场的半死状态，和死了也差不多。

记得就在前几年，比特股创始人BM离开比特股多年之后，又回访过一次比特股论坛，只提了一个问题，询问比特股当时的喂价方案，之后就没有再出现过。我猜想，他肯定是没有得到满意的答案，当然既然他提出这个问题，那就是说他也没有想到和发现满意的答案。再就是如果他找到了满意的答案，他有可能想在EOS上做个抵押锚定币方面的项目。

You talk about smartcoins, but you really mean bitassets - the committee owned and branded smartcoins.

Anyone can create their own privatized bitasset, free from outside influence, free from past bitshares prices, and many people have; see "honest.cny", "hertz", "hero", and the norns like "urthr" "skuld", and "verthandi" for example.

Some of these privatized smartcoins have good operational records with marketing being the limiting factor. You can create these to reference any asset as long as you have price feed scripts for them, with your own smartcoin config & black swan recovery methods set, no need for secondary chains to try out new smartcoin ideas (other than the test network).

The competitors to smartcoins don't seem to transparently demonstrate sufficient backing collateral, so no wonder competing with them is tough when they're effectively just passing off user issued assets on other chains with no proof/withdrawal mechanisms as the real deal.

You bring up a lack of innovation, but you haven't mentioned the liquidity pools, the reference UI spotlight features, suez order sends order mechanics, the expansion of "black swan recovery methods" for improving smartcoin development, NFT apps/galleries, Airdrop tech, the introduction of credit offer lending on chain neither?

You bring up death & failure,  yet the blockchain blocks reliably continue to be produced every 3 seconds regardless of bizarre CEX behaviour. Good riddance to Binance, their platform brought centralization and downwards price action.

I'd note that the clone coin you mention didn't to a proper genesis so isn't a true fork & has an mcap 40x smaller than BTS as of this post, not a good look. They even modified their core to be fully centralized, banning accounts from the chain: https://github.com/bitshares-cnvote/newbitshares-core/blob/29c316e376f1a0925537b2e6dd0bf226c0df99bf/libraries/chain/evaluator.cpp#L81

I'd probably say encouraging new gateways to open up, and/or encouraging existing gateways to support new tokens should be on the road to revival, back when BTS was top 10 there were more than we have now. That and more UI development.

比特股自创世以来的情形好有一比，一些人投巨资打造了一个完全开放式的现代化豪华高档金融市场，这些人还有其后其他众多商户纷纷进来开商号，储户们也纷纷进来存钱。因为这个市场一直没有设防，保护商号们的安全，结果各种打砸抢时有发生，平台对此置若罔闻，商号们叫苦不迭。更离谱的是，这个市场以保护储户利益为借口，还要对被打砸抢的商户处以储户存款本金两倍总价10%的罚款。长此以往，各个商户逐一倒闭破产，最终储户们存的钱也化为乌有。试问，在现实世界里，如果存在这样的市场，他能开下去吗？

每个人都可以说出自己的答案，有各种各样的原因和理由。但问题的根本在哪里，恐怕未必有人想过并且想清楚，包括比特股创始人BM，大家可以回顾一下，好好想想BM和中本聪的对话。BM认为比特币的性能做不了电子现金，要提高出块速度和容量，中本聪什么话也没说，也没时间解释，其实他就是不想解释，明者自明。中本聪创世的就是一篇论文和一段程序代码，在创世区块引用了报纸新闻的一个标题，这成为比特币的檄文，被后来无数追随者一再提起。中本聪真正抓住了问题的本质，光喊口号也没用，还要有护法。比特币的护法就是出块奖励四年减半，慢慢收敛到两千一百万的总量。这就是比特币注定成功的关键所在。

二、比特股创始的初心和目标

比特股从初创到现在，历经十年的风霜雪雨，一路坎坷，人来人往，几乎所有人包括已去的和新来的，都忘记了十年前BM带领天使投资人们创建比特股的初心和目标：打造一个去中心化的银行和交易所，使全世界所有人都能够无需审查就能利用现代的金融工具，获得真正的解放。

要最终实现这个初心和目标，比特股最终需要走到哪里？能走到哪里？为什么现在还没有走到那里？怎样才能走到那里？

第一个问题的答案是比特股至少需要回到它曾经坐过的宝座，即市值排行榜第三的宝座上。

能不能回到那个位置，我说能，没人相信。看看以太坊和币安短短数年即崛起的例子，事实上比特股比二者都具有先发优势，业务上比特股与币安重叠，比特股更多，币安现在的位置本该是比特股该在的那个地方。

为什么比特股历经长达十年的时间，现在还没有回到那个位置，反而背道而驰？

提个问题，想做个调研，后面会用到，就是BitCNY曾经在哪几个交易所上市，大致上市时间是什么时候，什么时间退市的？@bitcrab，有知道的请告知，先谢过。