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中文 (Chinese) / Re: bts是否还是一个值得投资的标的
« on: June 16, 2025, 03:24:34 pm »1：bts在经历社区分化事件，cnvote(nbs分叉)事件后，dpos机制已不复存在。真的是好久不见，上次发帖是快6年前了。最近可好？
2：bts依然是一个投资标的（市值并不高）。
3：abit的存在，是bts现状的直接原因。（可喜的是，他依然存在）。
4：市场信心，交易所信心。
5：是否有兴趣？
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General Discussion / Re: Balancing Between DEX and CEX – How Are You Managing It in 2025?
« on: April 20, 2025, 08:07:10 pm »
This post looks like an advertisement, but the wording is OK, so I'm not going to delete it at the moment.
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Technical Support / Re: [BITSHARES RECOVERY] I can help you recover your assets!
« on: March 20, 2025, 09:04:09 am »Good afternoon, I want to ask for help, I made a withdrawal of funds but it did not arrive, I will attach all the screenshots, help me return the assets. I will also add that I am not an English speaker, so I use a translator.
More details: I made a withdrawal of BTS token from the Mexc exchange. Transaction hash
259b1397a2443404d38bb8d57ee9382ba759fae7 https://blocksights.info/#/txs/259b1397a2443404d38bb8d57ee9382ba759fae7
It has a successful status, but the funds have not been received. A dispute was also opened to restore funds through the exchange, but support did not help(
Will someone help me recover the funds?dstudencov6@gmail.com
https://ibb.co/svY8krcj
https://ibb.co/tTbLWt1q
https://ibb.co/zHF9Brpy
https://ibb.co/xq4Dz0cr
https://ibb.co/MDdxf8vQ
https://ibb.co/HDrtwmD1
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You were scammed.
The account `xion12gp2q7rfvyux3gew2hnu7f2wefsmsamqrm4p4e` is owned by a scammer.
Someone tricked you into transferring money to that account. You need to ask him for refund. Nobody else can help you.
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General Discussion / Re: Binance will sell out 356M BTS in next 3 months
« on: March 09, 2025, 12:35:50 pm »
UPDATE:
Binance sent emails to users saying that they had finished converting BTS to stablecoins.
Also there is an announcement on 2025-03-03: https://www.binance.com/en/support/announcement/detail/70c9e86c57704088805cec3faf0adbdc
As of writing, there is still 1,175,867 BTS in their wallet account binance-bitshares-tss1.
Binance sent emails to users saying that they had finished converting BTS to stablecoins.
Also there is an announcement on 2025-03-03: https://www.binance.com/en/support/announcement/detail/70c9e86c57704088805cec3faf0adbdc
As of writing, there is still 1,175,867 BTS in their wallet account binance-bitshares-tss1.
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General Discussion / Re: Binance will sell out 356M BTS in next 3 months
« on: January 07, 2025, 04:27:57 pm »In 8th Nov, totally 200M BTS are sent from binance BTS wallet account binance-bitshares-tss to gate and MEXC.
according to binance's announcement in 12th Aug, binance will perform a conversion of BTS to USDC based on user's holdings in their binance wallet and return U to users, the conversion will be completed by 2025/3/1.
so it's clear that now binance began the "conversion" - in other words, they will sell out the total 356M BTS in CEX like gate and MEXC before 2025/3/1.
UPDATE:
Today (Jan 7, 2025) in total 155M BTS was sent from binance BTS wallet account binance-bitshares-tss1 to gate.io and MEXC, 77.5M each first, later mostly moved to gate.io. As of writing there is 1,175,867 BTS in binance wallet account.
UPDATE 2025-3-9 : fixed the account name above.
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General Discussion / Re: Binance will sell out 356M BTS in next 3 months
« on: January 05, 2025, 12:03:57 pm »By the way, judging from the text you quoted, after you started replying to me, I edited my post and supplemented some info. Maybe you missed it. See https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=34110.msg350735#msg350735Once again, it is very clear that ByBit does not own that account. It is owned by the scammer.
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General Discussion / Re: Binance will sell out 356M BTS in next 3 months
« on: January 05, 2025, 11:50:39 am »
I would still appreciate if Bitcrab (or even yourself if You can acquire information) would be decent enough to reply to the 1st question I've popped:
1.) Is the sellout done ? Today is 5th of January 2025.
There are links in OP. Quoted below.
In 8th Nov, totally 200M BTS are sent from binance BTS wallet account binance-bitshares-tss to gate and MEXC.
according to binance's announcement in 12th Aug, binance will perform a conversion of BTS to USDC based on user's holdings in their binance wallet and return U to users, the conversion will be completed by 2025/3/1.
so it's clear that now binance began the "conversion" - in other words, they will sell out the total 356M BTS in CEX like gate and MEXC before 2025/3/1.
https://blocksights.info/#/accounts/binance-bitshares-tss1
From on-chain data there is still 156M BTS in Binance's cold wallet account. In other words, judging from public info, nothing has changed after Binance sent 200M BTS to other exchanges. So I think Binance hasn't sold out yet.
Nevertheless, MEXC's account balance has returned to the level before Binance sent them 100M, that means the 200M has been mostly moved to Gate.io. Whether the 200M is still in Binance's hands, or how much they have sold, is something I don't know. I guess they have sold most of the 200M since around 2 months have passed already and they have less than 2 months left to sell the rest.
FYI, at the time that Bitcrab posted OP here, he also talked in chat groups about an idea that maybe the community can crowdfund to buy Binance's BTS off the counter, and some days later he said in a chat group that he's unable to contact the person(s) in charge in Binance, so he gave up the idea.
By the way, Indodax (a.k.a. Bitcoin Indonesia) delisted BTS recently: https://blog.indodax.com/delisting-des2/ . As of writing there is around 52M BTS in their accounts (dropped from around 80M (IIRC)). According to their announcement, they will sell off by January 16, 2025.
https://blocksights.info/#/accounts/indodax-cold
https://blocksights.info/#/accounts/bitcoinindonesia
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General Discussion / Re: Binance will sell out 356M BTS in next 3 months
« on: January 04, 2025, 07:57:20 pm »
Abit,
Please read the ticket and investigate account. ByBit EXCHANGE issued that deposit details and user transferred from MXCOM to ByBit.
Fact is BTS is not listed on ByBit so there is no way a user can transfer BTS from anywhere to ByBit. The victim was convinced by A SCAMMER (not ByBit) that he/she can do that and profit from it. It's not ByBit's fault.
It's not our fault either.
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Interesting thing is that MXCOM HAS LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY to catch the Scammer that is using their exchange to defraud people for funds (even if it isn't MXCOM itself or ByBit) - NOT TO POINT FINGERS OUR WAY.
MXCOM maybe has legal responsibility about that, or not, I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. If so, it is the victim's responsibility to ask related authorities to take action, it's not appropriate that we do anything on behalf of the victim, especially when you even don't know what has happened. Although I generally don't like authorities, if they request something by the law, I'm willing to cooperate.
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Point: Educate them, or authorities will educate them.
Maybe my prejudice, I think authorities usually make things worse.
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And to be clear: do not ever again compare my history with any of them, I had the decency to follow up on legalities with any/every company I've touched. I signed every paper and every investment deal by name of myself even it costed ME IN THE END EVERYTHING - so please educate yourself more, I'm still learning and surprisingly You seem be in denial for new lessons which personally makes me truly sad.
Small note on account owned by ByBit -> All the funds are automatically (probably by bot) being sent back straight to MXCOM, hence the responsibility is 100% ON THEM.
I'm not promising user that "I will" get his money back. Seems you forgotten that I'm more intelligent than that.
I'm sending notice to user that if his money is not in his account by end of the weak, I will use his transcripts and authorization to go to the Authorities as he is the defrauded victim here.
Once again, it is very clear that ByBit does not own that account. It is owned by a scammer.
Just FYI, we have the https://t.me/BitSharesScams Telegram Group to educate victims, you can see the common scam schemes. The message you got is one of them, see https://t.me/BitsharesScams/33.
We have more than 3000 maybe-scam-related accounts listed here https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/blob/develop/app/lib/common/scamAccounts.js, but actually there are much more such accounts on the blockchain and new scam accounts are being created every day. We are just unable to catch them all.
BitShares can and will built different case, against slander and incompetence by the exchange that pointed finger our way.This is another topic. I don't like that they point fingers to us either. But don't make mistakes like them.
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General Discussion / Re: Binance will sell out 356M BTS in next 3 months
« on: January 04, 2025, 02:26:17 pm »In 8th Nov, totally 200M BTS are sent from binance BTS wallet account binance-bitshares-tss to gate and MEXC.
according to binance's announcement in 12th Aug, binance will perform a conversion of BTS to USDC based on user's holdings in their binance wallet and return U to users, the conversion will be completed by 2025/3/1.
so it's clear that now binance began the "conversion" - in other words, they will sell out the total 356M BTS in CEX like gate and MEXC before 2025/3/1.
Hi,
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Jerry. Long time we haven't interacted which is on me - and starting off the wrong foot will be again on me.
Please endure following questions and reply as fast as possible:
1.) Today is January 4th 2025. Is the conversion mentioned above done ? Is the Pump&Dump finalized ?
2.) December 24th 2024 we have received a very ticket support with inquiry ending up in very interesting results.
Doing investigation of the mentioned account where withdrawal was made I was (not)surprised to see that ByBit is just another clone of MXCOM/Binance and all of that bullshit from the past 6 years that has been going on.
https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/account/thor1l8hvnr2rec39qnk5365hppywtwr8p8qwq3z3yw
If You navigate to 5th page in the account activity You will find transaction of the victim reaching to support.
Now, I honestly had some personal growth over the past 2 years and I'm completely not interested in the structure, scheme or way of You and Your exchange buddies are doing business, but I DO CARE ABOUT BITSHARES USERS and I DO NOT ALLOW SCAM.
So to be clear, I will today write a reply that his money will be back in his account by the end of the week (tomorrow) and You will go back to your MXCOM buddies and explain to them (if they haven't learned after 11 years of existence of BitShares):
Re: "I will today write a reply that his money will be back in his account by the end of the week"
I'd say you're acting completely wrong. I don't think you can make it, so why promise it in the first place?
The user was scammed, yes. It is his/her greed and ignorance that caused it. Such scams are happening every day in the world. You are not the God, you can't save all people.
You do not allow scam, that's fine. But you need to have the strength to do it well. Your past behavior does not prove it.
A clear fact is that this account https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/account/thor1l8hvnr2rec39qnk5365hppywtwr8p8qwq3z3yw is owned by a scammer but not any exchange you mentioned, nor bitcrab who you're pointing finger to. The scheme is simple, the scammer somehow convinced the victim to send funds (from wherever) to his account and he sends it back to the victim's account (again wherever) with a bonus and he can decide to not send back at all.
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ITS NOT BLOCKCHAIN RESPONSIBILITY FOR TRANSACTIONS MADE AND THE FUNDS FUNNELED BY THE CENTRALIZED EXCHANGES ARE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AS THEY ARE SOLE OWNERS OF THEIR ACCOUNTS CREATED ON OUR BLOCKCHAIN AND TO NEVER AGAIN THEIR SUPPORT PUT A FINGER POINTING THIS WAY FOR THAT SHADY ATTEMPTS OF SCAMMING AND/OR STEALING MONEY
or...
I'll personally write a letter to Ms. Salgado-Juarez, Mariela (USAILN) in the US Department of Justice who is aligned with Federal Bureau of Investigation for Victim Support in cases of fraud&scam with cc to Mr. Gary Gensler who is the chair of the US SEC on Monday morning giving them full structure of the cloned exchanges without proper licenses operating from a dead and/or un-existing companies somewhere in England.
I hope I was crystal clear and no hard feelings. But, unfortunately I am back and I never allowed or will allow anything similar to this.
Best regards,
Co-Founder/Venture Architect @ BitShares
Milos DL Preocanin
IMHO Seeking support from the authorities is never a good idea. The real solution is education.
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Technical Support / Re: Downloading history on activity page
« on: January 01, 2025, 08:11:31 pm »Hi, I'm trying to download my cointracking.info report from the download history button on the activity page in Bitshares-ui. It works on some of my accounts but not others that have more activity.Yes bitshares-ui is the way. If it doesn't work, you can try https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-report/ and maybe you need to tweak it to suit your needs.
When I use blocksights.info block explorer it can export the history but only in raw format.
I noticed blocksights.info is using the API call https://api.bitshares.ws/openexplorer/export/account_history?account_id=1.2.102864 to download the history.
Is there an API call I can use to download the cointracking.info report or is that being done in the UI?
Thanks,
My ElasticSearch API endpoint for it is available at https://es.bts.mobi/ .
I'm not actively monitoring the forum. Please contact me via https://t.me/abitmore if needed, or better, contact Stefan at https://t.me/sschiessl since he's the expert on this.
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General Discussion / Re: A Libertarian Alternative to Patents and Copyright (DAC)
« on: December 27, 2024, 05:13:48 pm »I'm am REALLY interested in the copyright DAC.
The thing is, I don't like the mecanism proposed. "how much would a monopoly on X be worth?" Seems like it's a statist way to think. I believe this question would make no sense in 50 years.
Does anyone have another way to track the value of a new song? How could you bet on it? This is the key!
This is driving me nuts. If we can figure out a simple way for your average joe to bet on a new song going viral, it will change the music industry more than napster did.
Bytemaster was saying there wouldn't need to be an end date to the bet. How exactly would that work?
It sounds like you're envisioning a revolutionary way to value creative works without traditional frameworks. The challenge lies in creating a decentralized system, like using blockchain for tracking virality metrics. (False patent marking)(URL removed) parallels this—just as it misrepresents innovation, relying on outdated mechanisms to value songs could misrepresent true market dynamics. A betting model might leverage streaming data or social media trends to predict virality, with transparent, open-ended mechanisms rewarding accurate forecasts. Could a tokenized staking system help bridge the gap between creativity and predictive markets?
Can you please answer me, are you a bot? You're replying to a 10-year old thread.
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General Discussion / Re: Bootstrapping Bitshares DEX Liquidity
« on: December 27, 2024, 05:06:44 pm »
You're keep saying "what to do".
I'm saying "how to do", "who to do the work", "at what cost", "who pays for the work".
You say "you ..."
I can say "you ..." too.
But who are "we"?
What do "we" do?
I'm saying "how to do", "who to do the work", "at what cost", "who pays for the work".
You say "you ..."
I can say "you ..." too.
But who are "we"?
What do "we" do?
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General Discussion / Re: Bootstrapping Bitshares DEX Liquidity
« on: December 15, 2024, 02:43:50 pm »
Good dream. But I don't think the path you described would work. Or say, it's very very hard. We need to do this, we must do that, etc.
It is possible that some random no brainers earn some easy money at some time.
It is not possible that every no brainer earns easy money forever. Because there are unavoidable costs to build and run a system. Someone has to pay.
The cost of decentralization / trustlessness is high.
bitBTC, at least in its current form, doesn't work like what you talked about.
Atomic swap is not viable practically.
Arbitrage is always there and it really helps connect different systems. But a fact is arbitrage consumes liquidity. Liquidity providers bear the risk.
It is possible that some random no brainers earn some easy money at some time.
It is not possible that every no brainer earns easy money forever. Because there are unavoidable costs to build and run a system. Someone has to pay.
The cost of decentralization / trustlessness is high.
bitBTC, at least in its current form, doesn't work like what you talked about.
Atomic swap is not viable practically.
Arbitrage is always there and it really helps connect different systems. But a fact is arbitrage consumes liquidity. Liquidity providers bear the risk.
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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 是什么毁了bts?
« on: December 05, 2024, 12:13:31 pm »现在怎么这样了，像样的交易所全都下架了BTS，彻底结束了？域名： bitshares.org
注册商： NameCheap, Inc.
注册日期： 2013-05-15 07:58:03
到期日期： 2025-05-15 07:58:03
域名状态： clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
DNS服务器： amber.ns.cloudflare.com,david.ns.cloudflare.com
域名： bitsharestalk.org
注册商： Vautron Rechenzentrum AG
注册日期： 2013-10-24 23:41:47
到期日期： 2025-10-24 23:41:47
域名状态： autoRenewPeriod https://icann.org/epp#autoRenewPeriod
DNS服务器： ns03.chainsquad.com,ns04.chainsquad.com
这两个到期了，还有人管吗
你有兴趣的话可以关注下，没准能捡到
有好几个好域名都已经丢了 bts.ai btspp.io open-explorer.io dexbot.info 等等
