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General Discussion / Re: Emergency Measure - Temporary Shutdown
« on: December 04, 2015, 06:01:54 am »
HERE YE, HERE YE, payments have occured. This would not have been realized without the help of the community, but I realized there is an error in terms of payments which is if a person mines less than 45 BTS, they're entirely ignored. I will make changes to the system so if you mine less than 45 BTS, you're assigned a "credit" for the next payout cycle (so that if credit + pay for that cycle > 45, then you get paid, otherwise your pay for that cycle gets added onto your credit).
 
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        [BTS Daemon] BTS: 3066.36918
        [BTS Daemon] proctologic was paid 31.00000 1.3.0
        [BTS Daemon] oakmaster was paid 440.00000 1.3.0
        [BTS Daemon] www.minebitshares-com was paid 140.2857 1.3.535
        [BTS Daemon] www.minebitshares-com was paid 3.1632 1.3.121
        [BTS Daemon] www.minebitshares-com was paid 652.00000 1.3.0
        [BTS Daemon] ihashfury was paid 17.00000 1.3.0

1.3.0 is BTS, 1.3.121 is USD, 1.3.535 is BROWNIE.PTS

Apologies to those who mined less than 45 BTS, will have the system corrected for the next payout.

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General Discussion / Re: Emergency Measure - Temporary Shutdown
« on: December 04, 2015, 03:24:11 am »
x11 looks to be working again.  How will payout amounts work with 2.0's higher fee's?  Still daily or will the miner be able to decide?

As of right now the way the payout works is when the pool has mined 0.02 BTC worth in coins (realistically its more like 0.029 BTC due to transfer loss), this is converted to BTS and then paid out to the miners. Thus, it's not on a timed schedule but on an ASAP schedule. I'm sure this will be adjusted as more people start mining. I will link Bunker to this to get you an official response of how he wants the end-result to be.

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General Discussion / Re: Better API - Please Help Define It
« on: December 04, 2015, 01:46:25 am »
http://cryptofresh.com/api/holders?asset=BROWNIE.PTS shout out to @roadscape (we requested this for our sharedrop system).

Actually I've asked @roadscape and got his kind reply as below:
you will need to iterate through the accounts and call list_account_balances for each one. You can use list_accounts to get all the accounts, but you'll need to paginate through the results.
That's why I ask for list_asset_owners to filter the accounts. I thought of returning balances also but for simplicity I think list_asset_owners is enough to get started.
Yeah, I agree that if we could (easily) determine share holders and their balances accurately then this would be ideal, but for the time being the cached data roadscapes api produces is sufficient (at least for my own purposes). I think in terms of time-complexity (performance), balances should be returned as well. It'd be a waste to determine the owners list, and not return their balances at the same time.

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I don't think non %-factored share drops are really "fair" and no serious business venture would ever do this. That's just my opinion though, others might feel different.

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Sorry, I skimmed  this thread because I felt I should reply ASAP (will re-read in a bit, but I've gotta run an errand shortly so once I'm back)... let me try answering a few questions here:

What is share dropping?
The act of choosing a targeted asset like BROWNIE.PTS, determining who holds this asset and their %-holding, and then distributing them a quantity based on their %-holding of some other asset.

Where do the fees come from?
Right now to be safe we assume 45 BTS on every transfer transaction. Since a share drop sends the assets directly to the share-holders BTS2.0 accounts, this is a transfer transaction. Thus, fee = N-holders * 45

How could we reduce fees?
Modifying BTS 2.0 itself
BTS 2.0 lacks batch operations right now, for example if there was a multi-transfer that let issue a person execute one command that pays to several people for a reasonable fee, this would reduce the cost. For example, lets say multitransfer required you to send funds to at least 5 people and costed 10 BTS per person (min. 50 BTS fee).

via ShareBits
Some how implement logging in with a BTS 2.0 account? If ShareBits could perform the sharedrop without sending any real block chain transactions, no fees need to be incurred. This is what @Tuck Fheman  attempted to do with his first few share drops (but they assumed your BTS account was the same as your forum account).

I suppose another way if you could associate a BTS 2.0 account with your BTS talk account on ShareBits. Which could be done in two ways, either a different memo-code would be used for this... or we make the assumption that if a person funds an account that BTS account becomes auto-associated with the account they funded (not ideal, for a variety of reasons).

Edit:
Ok there's no way to word this without being confusing, so before I start when I say BTS 2.0 account on ShareBits basically what I mean is similar to when I say your BTS talk account on ShareBits or your Twitter account on ShareBits:
So, there would be no way to log into an authenticated session for a BTS 2.0 account on ShareBits (with Twitter there's open authentication, with BitsharesTalk there's the security code, etc. that's how you get into an authenticated session). However, what you would be able to do is merge your BTS 2.0 account on ShareBits with (for example) your BTS talk account on ShareBits thus giving you access to your BTS 2.0 account's balances (on ShareBits).

Merging would be done by first logging into an authenticated session (i.e. say your BitsharesTalk account) on ShareBits, then going under 'Accounts' and requesting a merge to a BTS 2.0 account. The requirement for this merge is that BTS 2.0 account must have been used within your last 5 deposits to your account you're trying to merge from.

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General Discussion / Re: Emergency Measure - Temporary Shutdown
« on: December 03, 2015, 10:38:57 pm »
don't mind me guys, just on an on topic post coming through..
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[12/3/2015 10:26:56 PM] Begin Cycle...
        [Cryptsy] BTC: 0.00734649
        [Poloniex] BTC: 0.01932096
        [Poloniex] BTS: 0.00000000

Once that # hits 0.01 it'll get moved, and poloniex will be > 0.02, so a payout will exec shortly after. Also that down time on the user stats was because I renamed some stuff in the DB (and forgot to re-publish the website)... oops.

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General Discussion / Re: so disappoint for this community
« on: December 03, 2015, 06:31:25 am »
Not particularly related to your issue, but people don't like thinking what to do, they like being told what to do. People are sheep, and thus is the world we live in.

Who are you calling sheep?  Bytemaster shouldn't make our decisions, but we should understand the intended design and rationale behind a setting we're considering to change, and then have a discussion about it.  Such changes should NOT be rushed or slipped in under the cover of darkness. 

P.S.  Blindly following someone requires little thinking.  So too does blindly disregarding them.

You're reading a lot into what I said. It seems you have your own assumptions about who you think are sheep already, what I said was much broader, I'm talking about the world itself. "Not particularly related to your issue."

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General Discussion / Re: Better API - Please Help Define It
« on: December 03, 2015, 02:50:31 am »
vector<string> list_asset_owners(asset_id_type asset_id, string lower_bound, limit=100)
  return asset owners list so that we can calculate asset distribution for things like dividend.

http://cryptofresh.com/api/holders?asset=BROWNIE.PTS shout out to @roadscape (we requested this for our sharedrop system).

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General Discussion / Re: Emergency Measure - Temporary Shutdown
« on: December 03, 2015, 02:34:43 am »
password for the asset u want to mine if u just want bts we can use the simple x that will work
 edit didn't see it would be more of a problem to change the pass so there no other $ ! # / \ & * we can use I don't no what bts don't allow in their username or I'd throw one out there

I've added "|" as a delimiter for an asset, so try mining with the name for example: hybr1d|USD and that should work as well (instead of a space). For the record, the pool is at ~0.019 BTC so payout should be soon... (need to mine 0.01 BTC more b/c its moved in 0.01 chunks, so could be a few more hours).

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General Discussion / Re: Emergency Measure - Temporary Shutdown
« on: December 03, 2015, 12:42:59 am »
got u so that's  for s configuration file for cgminer but not a bat file cause when I tried to set my miner in minera it said the pool was dead also multiminer and my other rigs where on miningrigrentals they told me the pool was dead as soon as I took those quotes out it was good now I also believe when I left those quotes out and put oakmaster USD my mining programs didn't recognize it I don't use conf. files with anyb of my miners and I don't think a lot of other ppl do so if it's the case it's going to cause ppl not to be able to mine a bit asset

If the space is causing that much of a problem, I propose we use a different character then since we are unable to use the password field for this. What other characters are not allowed in BTS 2.0 usernames? Is the pound symbol (#) allowed? If it is not, then we could do something like hybr1d#USD
Why not?
sgminer.exe -k x11mod -o stratum+tcp://216.146.143.177:5559 -u proctologic -p USD -I d -g 1 -w 128

      "name" : "Bitshares pool X11",
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://216.146.143.177:5559",
      "user" : "proctologic",
      "pass" : "USD"

The issue is the modifications required to specify the asset as the password are far more complicated then passing it as part of the username by some delimiter character, I'm not saying this isn't possible just to do, just that it's (far) more of a hassle then passing it via the username.

I'm not sure I no most pool u put . in between to keep track of ur miners so I have oakmaster.worker1 and so on but I don't no if bitshares names have . I no I use - in a few but I do no the standard at most pool use the . so I no none of the mining software will give a problem

Unfortunately "." is a valid character in BTS 2.0 account names.

Edit:
I'll look into figuring out how to do the password change, but no guarantees on this one.

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General Discussion / Re: so disappoint for this community
« on: December 03, 2015, 12:01:16 am »
Not particularly related to your issue, but people don't like thinking what to do, they like being told what to do. People are sheep, and thus is the world we live in.

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General Discussion / Re: Better API - Please Help Define It
« on: December 02, 2015, 10:45:51 pm »
Unfortunately, the feedback is not helpful.  I want specific requests   INPUT ARGUMENTS and RETURN VALUES.   

The API already allows you to do everything or can easily be wrapped in one that can.  Examples are help, vague descriptions are not.

I'm not sure if this quite falls under "Better API" since what I think is needed the most of a wiki. Let me give you an example why. Where is is easily stated that for example, consider when I call get_account_history where's a documentation telling me what op.op[0] (the type of history data) represents? What's telling me that op.amount.amount needs to be normalized to its base-10 representation by querying get_asset with op.amount.asset_id to determine the precision value, then I need to compute op.amount.amount / 10^(precision)?

To a new developer working with bitshares all of this seems very vague and confusing, and answers to these kinds of questions aren't very responsive, it takes days, maybe weeks before getting a proper answer posting on the forums.

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General Discussion / Re: Emergency Measure - Temporary Shutdown
« on: December 02, 2015, 10:09:15 pm »
got u so that's  for s configuration file for cgminer but not a bat file cause when I tried to set my miner in minera it said the pool was dead also multiminer and my other rigs where on miningrigrentals they told me the pool was dead as soon as I took those quotes out it was good now I also believe when I left those quotes out and put oakmaster USD my mining programs didn't recognize it I don't use conf. files with anyb of my miners and I don't think a lot of other ppl do so if it's the case it's going to cause ppl not to be able to mine a bit asset

If the space is causing that much of a problem, I propose we use a different character then since we are unable to use the password field for this. What other characters are not allowed in BTS 2.0 usernames? Is the pound symbol (#) allowed? If it is not, then we could do something like hybr1d#USD

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General Discussion / Re: Emergency Measure - Temporary Shutdown
« on: December 02, 2015, 09:49:46 pm »
I believe that's poorly worded, you don't need quotes in your username, but you do need quotes when specifying your username on the command line. Look at the pool, and look at Bunker's username with USD for an example. Say I was using sgminer and wanted to mine USD:

sgminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://mining.bunkermining.com:4449 -u "hybr1d USD" -p ANYTHING_YOU_LIKE --no-submit-stale

Is what I would use. There's quotes around the username here because if there weren't the command line wouldn't realize that the space is part of the username. Likewise, with cgminer:

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"pools" : [
{
            "name" : "hybrid",
            "url":"stratum+tcp://mining.bunkermining.com:4449",
            "user": "hybr1d USD",
            "pass": "x"
        }
],

--

I have one more question when I put quotes in the username my miner won't connect in the getting started on the pool it states specifically to put quotes is this right as as I take those quotes out the pool says alive with quotes the pool say dead thanks

That part seems not working for me as well. I rather see username.USD or password USD . Is it possible to fix devs?

username.USD is not possible since "." is allowed in bitshares 2.0 characters, but we can use another character instead of spaces (or I should say "as well as spaces"). What other characters aren't allowed in BTS 2.0 names?

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General Discussion / Re: Emergency Measure - Temporary Shutdown
« on: December 02, 2015, 10:48:22 am »
I am willing to test Script and SHA on the new pool.

How often are payouts and will BitShares users get paid using:

http://216.146.143.200/dashboard

It's best to infer this from looking payouts that've occured to bunker himself:
http://216.146.143.200/Dashboard/User?address=www.minebitshares-com

The pool payout roughly every 0.02 BTC. Looking at the data for his address, that's typically around every 20-24 hours given the (current) mining power invested in the pool (this will be adjusted in the future).

You're paid to whatever address you choose to mine with. If you would like to receive an asset instead of BTS instead of using your BTS account for your user name, put your BTS account with a space and then the asset, i.e. "hybr1d USD"

To qualify for being paid in the form of an asset you must have mined atleast 60 BTS worth in value (this is because ~15 BTS is eaten in buying the asset as a tx fee, and ~45 is eaten as a tx fee for sending). If say for example, you've only mined 59 BTS worth in value and asked to be paid in USD. You would not receive USD but instead receive (14) BTS (59-45=14).

A payout occured about 5 hours ago, and there's about 0.005 BTC on the pool right now, so if we assume perfect linear progression the next payout should theoretically occur around 9pm EST 12/2/2015 (m/d/y)

If anyone's familiar with mining pools and/or mines often, please PM me I have a few technical questions you may be able to assist me with.

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