Much appreciated and thanks for the votes of support.

Since worker has been up for a while, all holders presented with it and notified on time, believe that next step would be lobbying for removal of votes from refund workers (lowering threshold) in order to continue production and operations for the project.

As long as we are in life, every problem can be solved.

Chee®s

Supporting BBF as legal representative should bitshares have one.



Price is also way cheaper 24k compared to 36k and already some years of history.

Sorry to inform you, but you're late for about 1 month and 14 days (6.2 weeks) on this vote and decision despite your initial request. Now small recap:

1) You were first holder to ask me will Move setup counter worker. I've stated if holders decide to not support BBF, Move will push replacement worker.
2) On 31st of January (4pm Holland time) I've posted this above as last attempt to uphold existing legal and agreements done. Yours and Alt response was `no support` to BBF.
3) To explain difference to all holders between "fixed price" and "budget price" type of workers for this existing remark on the price:
               a) BBF had a 24,000 EUR FIXED PRICE to be legal representative for 365 days and uphold existing agreements. They get paid monthly amount of 2,000 EUR regardless of what they do, and YES it was very simple cost to maintain legal availability for the blockchain. Now it's gone.
               b) Move Institute has 36,000 EUR BUDGET AVAILABLE for any need/request done by holders to be processed according to the price table for 365 days and in mind that we need to obtain/redo most of agreements. Budget is bigger for the reason of possibility to redo all the existing/cancelled agreements or proceed with transfers with in-house lawyer/attorney and legal. No payouts will be made unless task is assigned/done.
4) I'll quote reply from BBF (Annemieke Dirkes) on the initial request (3rd of February via email) to extension/grace period for worker to get voted in or possibility for transfer:
"Dear Milos

thanks for reaching out and showing your concerns regarding the BitShares ecosystem. You are indeed correct that the latest worker has not received the required support to continue the work for the BitShares community and the BBF lost its mandate to be the legal representative effectively end of 2019. The agreements between the BBF and other parties where based on the legal representative status of the BBF and as such the counterparties need to be informed by the BBF that it is no longer said representative. This will of course happen in a non-offense way. After thorough investigation we concluded this is the only possible choice.

With regards to done agreements: All ongoing and relevant information that led to signed agreement are public records and found in the relevant channels of the BBF. Unfortunately, I am not in the position anymore to disclose such a list directly due to the legal position and potential liabilities.

With regards to the legal opinion letter: The opinion letter has been distributed to exchanges upon request, enabled through the BBF being the legal representative for the BitShares blockchain. As it stands now I am no longer in the position to distribute it due to the legal position and potential liabilities. Besides that the law firm has explicitly not agreed to publication.

As far as the handover cost: There no cost involved when a new legal representative is being introduced. In a decentralised blockchain like BitShares everybody has the same opportunity to introduce changes or proposals which can voted in based on popular vote. There is no requirement or obligation for any new legal representative to meet the BBF or continue the work that the BBF once did. The community has to decide what happens next, what kind of services they would like to see and which entity is going to be offering those services.

The BBF respects the choice of the BitShares community and has seized its operations as legal representative after 31st of December 2019, and has withdrawn the offer to continue for 2020 after the grace period ended on 31st of January 2020 as stated in the worker proposal https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2020-01-bitshares-legal-representative.

Kind regards,

BBF"


I don't know how to please you all and I've arranged best agreement for the blockchain I've possibly could. No BBF despite attempts to uphold it as a first mover, no hurt to the ecosystem and worker that asks nothing unless holders wants it done, but available for any request or legal need, and you stated that 36k budget is more costly than 24k fixed payment. I hope this made it clear once and for all.

P.S. Public statement to holders on Trademark and recent initiative will be released soon, priority is core worker this weekend. In short: I'm getting info that some of you are stressed because of it. There is no need for anyone long-term in this community and with healthy intentions towards ecosystem to be worried about trademark or handle they own. They just need to legally communicate so we can protect our brand from any scam, fake news, defamation or miss-information to wider public. Nobody prevents people of advertising BitShares, but we will prevent scammers, BitShares fake profiles, and people who don't properly promote (miss-information outside of streamline scope that project has). We had 2 years of experience to see how much brand can get hurt by random dojos that nobody can touch - and we had legal representative at the time. BitShares had 7 long years to find a way to protect the code and reputation, and it failed badly. Why ? Possibly that everyone were interested in profits more than consequences and impact of unfinished business on project of this scope.

It's still remains decentralized. Move will hold trademark on `word` and support BBF legally to take over and uphold trademark on `logo`. We do want unity here and we had our chances to be competition if we wanted over past 2 years, we never did and we don't want to. Otherwise I would be not spending so much time around ecosystem or workers for literally free/no-cost.

Above all facts and deal with them. I mean no harm. I meant no harm when i first time asked/warned:

- witnesses on security and lack of vpn on the nodes
- openledger domain security leaks
- bcl failure (ask Kimchi King)
- eosio fail to launch (2 months before hack and delay of launch)
- eosio fail to deliver promises (BFT implenetation to eosio)
- bsip42 disaster 
- cryptobridge closure
- spark closure

Now, at the times of my statements you people called me fuder, lunatic, devil, idiot and what else... bad guy eventually. Now after so long me still being here comes the question, was I wrong ? From the answer you find, you may all learn something. So trust me on trademark again - it's very much needed after everything I've seen in past 30 months around here. And tbh I never hurted BitShares brand or it's reputation in any way or I'm gonna do it ever, so same as I wasn't clear why Spark is against gateway legalization, I don't know why some of you are now against Trademark, but smells as dodgy stuff once again. Same as it was said to George -> only time will tell.

Chee®s

Personally was involved in draft overview for this worker through period of last 4 months while team was collaborating and crafting it accordingly to the blockchain/user needs and tighter worker rules by holders made in 2019:

- lower hourly rates
- more specific/detailed roadmap
- clear focus
- BTS payouts with choice of currency
- 6 months period.

Now, to not be confused, worker is asking for mere 107k USD as a MAX budget for 6 months. There is no lower than this, and its even lower than BTSPP worker.

Even though BTSPP is doing amazing job as a mobile trading app for the blockchain, its far from demo showcase for all our blockchain utilities and it doesn't support desktop version.

Holders, please reconsider your actions and vote on this much needed worker.

As a worker supporter, mini-proxy and core liaison - Supported!


Chee®s

Proper Chinese version of the legal worker (apologies for delay)

工作提案详情


●   提案 ID：1.14.248
●   提案账户：escrow.zavod.premik
●   提案名称：比特股代理律师及代表人 2020
●   公司名称：「Zavod Premik」（英文：「Move Institute」）
●   讨论：
●   支付账户：zavod.premik
●   预算：36,000.00 bitEUR（1214372.67171 BTS）
●   每日解冻：3,327.04841 BTS
●   固定成本：0.00 bitEUR
●   期限：12 个月（365 天）
●   起始：2020 年 2 月 8 日
●   结束：2021 年 2 月 6 日

背景

从 2017 年10月到 2020 年1月这段时间，比特股区块链基金会（BitShares Blockchain Foundation，简称 BBF）—— 一家位于荷兰的非盈利性组织 —— 是比特股区块链和社区的法律代表。通过不同的法律及相关的工作提案、社区资金，比特股区块链基金会（BBF）代表比特股区块链和社区，处理了很多法律协议，获取多个法律意见书、声明、出版物的必要文档，购买/获取多个域名，执行许可，为社区最大利益建立各种关系。

鉴于当前 BTS 持币人决定，BBF 将不会再被批准新一年的任期，比特股区块链和社区正在寻找新的法律代表。

简介

从 2005 年起，在斯洛文尼亚的若干青年协会和个人的倡议下，基于创始人的经验和知识，非盈利性组织「Zavod Premik, Murska Sobota」（英文：「Move Institute」）作为一个团体成立了。作为一个由经济学家、IT 专家和律师为代表的团体，「Move Institute」无疑会带来团体的经验和价值。

「Move Institute」能提供各种法律、公证和公共服务，翻译服务，以及采购服务。当需要出庭受审时，「Move Institute」有内部付薪/雇佣的指定律师处理所有法庭诉讼/案件。


「Move Institute」和比特股的关联：

●   获得了 bitshares.org 域名（2018 年）
●   认可并将 BBF 作为法律代表添加到了 bitshares.org 网站上（2018 年）
●   对 bitshares.org 及其产品增加更多限制条款和政策（例如，在 wallet.bitshares.org 上的网关列表）
●   与有执照的媒体发布者合作，保护 news.bitshares.org 的内容（2019 年）
●   获得了「bitshares」的欧盟商标（2019 - 2020 年）

提案目的（我们的责任）

该提案将给予「Move Institute」独家的权利和授权，作为比特股区块链代言人，在以下事项上合法代表、支持和执行任何协议/事项：
1.   回应政府当局对比特股区块链及其软件、合法拥有的任何域名的任何要求。
2.   在授权期限内，完成 BTS 代币持币人通过另外的工作提案要求实施的新的法律行动（例如：交易所上币、交易所重新上币、交易所下币、整合、许可、问询等）
3.   代表比特股区块链和代币持有人，从第三方恶意商标抢注人手中取回「图形」商标（如果前任法律代表在该提案批准后 14 天内没有完成当前进程）。
4.   保存和维护文档/正式记录，每个月或每次有新的活动更新一次。
5.   继续处理已购域名、协议和任何其他相关文件的移交/转移过程，这些事项是通过过去合法批准的授权代表比特股区块链及其社区的比特股区块链基金会受理的。
6.   与敏感第三方重新启动协议/程序，以防BBF执行无效（第 5 点，取消条款）。
7.   跟踪/研究任何法律要求，并及时将其同步给比特股区块链的开发和社区（例如：CMC 数据责任和透明联盟的监管要求）。
8.   代表比特股区块链，与各方维护良好的关系，并尽可能提升现有的合作协议、事项和安排。
9.   维护和提升比特股区块链的法律地位和知名度。
10.   通过 news.bitshares.org 上的账号作为官方声明，保持一切法律活动/进程的公告和发表。
11.   研究并可能为合法投资区块链提供解决方案。
12.   鉴于对交易所的监管愈发明确、严格， 提供法律咨询，并监督带有本地网关的合法DEX的建设。
13.   通过将 UI 和潜在的监管敏感的产品/软件分类定为「开发中/测试中的 DApp」，使生态系统能够维持比特股最初的理念。

专业服务

●   准备并向国际当局及其机构提交各种申报文件。
●   准备协议和（或）任何其他类型的法律文档。
●   公证服务。
●   英语、中文、德语和斯洛文尼亚语的认证翻译服务。
●   商标、许可和版权服务。
●   私营采购服务（在欧盟范围内）。
●   为法院审理程序准备敏感材料（立案）。
●   法庭代表。

正式代表、成本和条款

Marko Martinuzzi (主管/法律代理人) - 60.00 欧元
Alojz Draskovic (代理律师) - 100.00 欧元
Linda Tian   (中文翻译) - 50.00 欧元

●   根据欧盟（斯洛文尼亚）法律定价需缴税。
●   服务费需要按照具体的事务、协议、服务和对实际过程复杂度的估计来确定。
●   服务发票和付款在事务完成后才最终确定。
●   法庭诉讼必须经单独的工作提案批准，并使用单独的预算。
●   本工作提案仅包括了法律办公室和法律代表的潜在和预计的服务费预算。
●   这是一份 预算工作提案，我们建议的理想的预算安排是包括多达 20 个常规法律程序/安排及其中文翻译。

另外，您可以查看 斯洛文尼亚政府定义的所有律师/法律服务的定价。.

当前法律问题的更多细节

因为 BBF 的 2020 年法律工作提案的「取消条款」的存在，并且社区公开表达意见/投票的期限已过，有可能导致前任法律代表的全部协议/诉讼等失效。

由于社区并不清楚法律文档的数量或价值，也不清楚对区块链的潜在伤害，「Move Institute」的代理 CEO（Milos Preocanin）在 1 月 31 日星期五联系了 BBF，代表少数持币人通过 bitsharestalk.org 发出了延期请求。这个消息在荷兰的工作时间被转达。后续，在 2 月 3 日星期一，又代表比特股区块链和社区通过电子邮件书面问询了可能的开销、意愿和时间（已收到回复）。

为了让社区对这个过程可能的规模有所准备，下列这些是我们发现的代表比特股区块链签订的协议和建立的联系：

●   AEX.com（交易所上币）
●   ZB.com（交易所上币）
●   BIG.one（交易所上币）
●   Bittrex.com（交易所重新上币，特殊法律协议，按照监管要求作关于 BTS 代币的声明）
●   Lykke.com（交易所上币）
●   Huobi.com（交易所上币，特殊法律协议）
●   RightBTC.com（交易所上币）
●   LATOKEN（交易所上币，特殊法律协议，bitCNY 分类和验证）
●   bitsharestalk.org（与 BitSapphire 的购买/转让协议）
●   Paul Hastings（关于 BTS 核心代币的意见书）
●   附加的工作提案有关法律的各种域名（例如：bitshares.legal、bitshares.works 等）

注意事项：这个清单是基于 BBF 发布的公开内容。目前我们还没有获得确认或者直接回应，所以无法验证上述列表的准确性。从法律上来说，必须首先批准了这份工作提案，当「Move Institute」实际认证成为新的法律代表后，才能合法地要求 BBF 已完成的实际文档和记录。

协议条款

●   「Move Institute」将在这份协议/授权/工作提案到期前 90 天为客户「比特股区块链」提出续签，客户可以批准、拒绝和/或指出新的法律代表以做移交。
●   如果取消这份协议的授权/批准，「Move Institute」将在 90 天内把所有相关文件记录移交给客户「比特股区块链」。
●   所有投诉、报告或问题请发送给 legal@move-institute.si 。
●   「Move Institute」办公室可以在周一至周五的营业时间（10:00 - 17:00）安排会议或通过电子邮件进行沟通。
●   「Move Institute」的代理 CEO Milos (DL) Preocanin是负责技术和社区关系的主要联系人。
●   所有剩余 的BTS 代币将会在这份工作提案到期或完成时销毁，返还给区块链。

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@everyone

Worker Roadmap is being edited and budget recalculated. Posting update later today. It will follow with escrow submission after re-discussion.

Chee®s

Quote from: Digital Lucifer on February 21, 2020, 11:34:05 pm

Quote from: binggo on February 21, 2020, 11:28:25 pm

Wait part two.

2020 core worker = 1 year has 12 months.

Part 1 = 6 months worker.

Read the worker PLEASE before commenting.

Chee®s

OK,  Part 2=4 months worker.

Will it be 4 months or 6 months and end in February 2021, as long as it's starts in 2020 its part of 2020 worker. Idea is to do Part 1 before we even start discussing Part 2.

Quote from: abit on February 22, 2020, 12:10:13 am

I think it's too early to discuss the part 2 right now. Things can change a lot in 6 months. If part 1 worked well, we may start discussing part 2.

Got it.

Development for BSIP 64: Operational HTLC preimage length, HASH160 addition, and memo field (up to 12 hours)
Development for BSIP 69: Additional Assert Predicates (up to 25 hours)
Development for BSIP 74: Margin Call Fee Ratio (up to 60 hours)
Development for BSIP 77: Require Higher CR When Creating/Adjusting Debt Positions (up to 80 hours)
Development for BSIP 86: Share market fee to the network (up to 60 hours)

If we can make a small Mainnet Release for these BSIPs asap? in the next two months?

Even I love the idea of having 64, 77 and 86 asap as tomorrow - unfortunately the answer is no.

Why ?

1) Process, development structure and corporate execution/deliveries are a must. Randomness will not be allowed
       a) If you take a close look at the worker roadmap you'll notice there is suddenly 60-80 hours for Mainnet 4.0 Release that was scheduled for November 2019. After careful review, release is not fully prepared and first 7-10 days of worker will be going to that release. 3 Core devs has total availability for that period is 130 hours and we have to give it some testing. Abit will be more utilizing hours on Audit than on coding if we want to keep some process.
       b) there is no such thing as "asap Mainnet release" and it never was unless fix takes 1-5 hours and usually it's halt of the blockchain. Each development has to be implemented on the testnet upon delivery and tested for minimum period of 25-30 days prior to mainnet release. This worker has no budget or plan to change to process for 2 release as it states clearly little bit below under the section called "New Schedule for Releases". First sentence and current schedule pretty much confirms explanation.
       c) To avoid another a) in this worker - each dev will be assigned to BSIP's if worker becomes active. Their deliveries will be reflected through available hours we defined per each team member against ETA's on BSIP's/task being assigned to.

Bitshares Chinese Forum
https://dpos.club

China block some web sites including Github. Users from China even have difficulty to post a reply in this forum.

Much appreciated for link. Yeah, I completely lost though of GitHub with China GFW. Apologies will update the links in a moment.

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BSIP 70: P2P Lending (up to 400 hours)

I like this .We need new DEFI application scenario for spreading.

Idea is yes, to not just satisfy holders but also to actually bring benefits and profits to the protocol as well.

BSIP64,69,70,80,85 haven't got a higher than BSIP-Threshold voting power, I don't think it's appropriate to include them.

and in my view some of them need more discussion, maybe it's better to put them into next part after voting up.

I'll quote important part of worker then ill explain myself

Quote: "This worker's agreement is crafted as a middle path between the desires of BTS core token holders, priorities for the blockchain and technology, as well as availability of core development team."

Explanation:
- Worker is crafted as balanced offer between holder's desires and necessities for the blockchain as protocol/tech to gain more visibility, profits and power in the real world outside our private interests.
- Worker includes needed amount of hours for documentation, BSIP's and discussions as well as delivery of each at the lower rate.
- Worker defines they will be delivered and released will be only the ones voted in. This is a development offer that satisfy both sides. What will be released its up to holders. What will be developed is result of holders desire and market demand.

If holders have issue with above terms it will certainly become a problem, since the terms are more fair than ever to the both BLOCKCHAIN and HOLDERS itself.

Now I've been hearing how bitassets are irrelevant and obsolete but i still see few BSIP's related to their mechanics and terms of use, so to stop pretending - let's just make a compensation and think about blockchain as well for once.


Chee®s

Dear BitShares,

Since I was personally told and explained that there is no need for classic API's and previous worker I've had (Exotic infra) nodes were turned off 4 months ago - in the meantime we noticed increased need for stable ES/Kibana hosts for various reasons.

We (APAsia.tech) would like to provide, under our own review and collaborative management, the nodes and elastic search APIs that have been deployed with the soon expiring infrastructure worker by BPBV.

Read the full details here: https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2020-02-infrastructure

Voting for worker proposals: Votes can be done via the reference wallet. Visit Menu -> Votes -> Workers or enter your account name in the link https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/voting

This worker proposal has id 1.14.253 and 202002-infrastructure.

We kindly ask for any comments and feedback.

Best Regards,
 Collaboration infra worker teams.

Chee®s

Quote from: Digital Lucifer on February 12, 2020, 09:32:33 pm

You have internal discussions for committee here on forums, just last post is more than 1 year old.

There is a quite active Telegram group even with people that used to be committee members but are no longer (like me).

Well, not sure what are activities are but surely needs cleanup, invite and management (not a member).

Chee®s