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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker] Integration of BTS with Wirex
« on: August 22, 2019, 11:37:47 am »
This worker is good only if wirex are willing to create a "BitAssets" stablecoin alternative to how much account holder is handling at their end, this will let Wirex users to exchange between BTS and Wirex "BitAssets" stablecoin and withdraw "BitAssets" by cards at any time.

This has to be discussed with Wirex, and the integration for this from their side is not complex.

OTHERWISE IT WILL BE JUST ANOTHER LEGACY COIN FASHION LISTING AT CEX

Not really and believe they will have their own fiat pegged currencies. As user of Revolut on behalf of Institute, i do appreciate having crypto on card. Having BTS would enable me that through them pay whatever i want around without need to do trading to cex and cashout to local account/atm/debit card.

So, of all the workers we have Wirex is one of the rare ones that actually strikes that "mass-adoption" in some real sense.

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And as any other BitShares WALLET should be using BitShares Faucet.

e.g.
- bitshares.org
- BitShares UI
- BitShares Community UI (even not finalized, Trusty had to remove their own faucet during development)

Another thing is this:

1) You nicely selected yourself as an escrow
2) You did resale of finished app that you publicly open-sourced as the terms of the worker
3) You are representing BitShares, and unless BitShares has income from you - sense of referrals, in what business sense would be normal to have costs only towards worker ?

Again, "fair" is here an issue, not the original terms. And as far I can see, you silently took ~31,000.00 USD extra in July from that BitShares branding.

If you came by yourself and said - HERE 50% to blockchain, 50% to us, i'm sure nobody would dispute.

Chee®s
http://bts.ai/u/healingvibes420 The creator of this WP even has full control over the ownership of the account.

Owner of that account and original creator of that WP, Aaron Mangal submitted his U.S. Citizen ID card along signed agreement with Move Institute (Slovenian non-profit from my signature, and 2nd escrow around consensus). Keys were handed over by proper channels in paper wallet form and restrictions were made -> legal and serious ones for a change.

Most of the discussion is public, and one of worker requirements actually to approve that worker was to hand it over to the escrow.

Many thanks for clarifications and chee®s

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On behalf of Move Institute (Escrow), following actions has been taken:

- 645,090.41020 BTS was withdrawn from Worker Vesting (- fee 50.52054 BTS).
- EVOLV agreed to be paid in LTC, and our choice was LTC due to partnership of LTC and EVOLV for WCC 2019.
- Institute is trading against open.LTC on the DEX for few days without having any ability to collect amount needed for deposit payment. Currently there is 21.15718996 LTC successfully traded at the price between 2050 BTS and 2010 BTS per 1 LTC.
- Institute will be moving equivalent of 8000 USD to Poloniex account registered and KYC'ed with Milos Preocanin (me) in order to acquire missing LTC for the first/deposit payment. Export of trading history will be provided and posted here. LTC and remaining BTS will be returned to the DEX by the end of the working week (current worker account @healingvibes420).
- Institute will trade CNY for the worker team hours with agreement of the worker team. BitUSD/BTS market don't have healthy price or volumes to be traded against.
- Institute was paid 3530 CNY for the services done until now.
- All the market sharing fees will be withdrawn and sent back to the blockchain.

As soon as the first round is done, more detailed information on the worker status will be published.

Move Institute is uploading new website that will have transparent accounting for BitShares holders similar to workers.bitshares.foundation. We expect website to reflect changes/updates by 15. August 2019.

Due to NDA and real-life laws/regulations - for the review of signed agreement, please send request to [email protected]

For more info on the activity of escrowed account please visit

https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/account/healingvibes420

Chee®s

Many thanks @xeroc.

Additional update: BTS leftover is being repurchased on the Poloniex and few holders were reached out by PM with transparent accounting on delivery.

Apologies for delays (BTC decided to move the markets since 14.08 - day after deposit to Poloniex and we weren't into creating loses for the blockchain).

More detailed public report and update of move-institute.si website is coming later this week.

Chee®s

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But as we replied above, our WP content is only responsible for the DEVELOPMENT of the APP. This is an open source community software.
ANYONE CAN OPERATE. (Of course you can run the app yourself and use your own faucet.)

While this is true, you are already operating the app on behalf of the community in the Google App Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.bitshares.app

And I very much like that, and I would like to keep it that way. The app is branded for BitShares and as such _should_ benefit the community with incoming referral rewards. I always assumed that the public codebase that is available is the community version (as it should be IMO!). Of course now any third party could copy, re-brand and use their own faucet.

2. About the replacement of the BBF faucet, it also depends on the progress of the BBF, or Apple's progress, not entirely determined by us.

BBF never had the intention to create a new version of the app with another faucet, the app that you are distributing is the community version in my eyes. Providing the same app twice would hurt the ecosystem. We will keep you posted on the certificates.

And as any other BitShares WALLET should be using BitShares Faucet.

e.g.
- bitshares.org
- BitShares UI
- BitShares Community UI (even not finalized, Trusty had to remove their own faucet during development)

Another thing is this:

1) You nicely selected yourself as an escrow
2) You did resale of finished app that you publicly open-sourced as the terms of the worker
3) You are representing BitShares, and unless BitShares has income from you - sense of referrals, in what business sense would be normal to have costs only towards worker ?

Again, "fair" is here an issue, not the original terms. And as far I can see, you silently took ~31,000.00 USD extra in July from that BitShares branding.

If you came by yourself and said - HERE 50% to blockchain, 50% to us, i'm sure nobody would dispute.

Chee®s

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Take a screenshot on all btspp accounts for current market sharing fee vested and stop playing around. What you took in July from it covers 1/3 of my entire infrastructure worker for a year.
If you were transparent by yourself 100% on market fee sharing profits, nobody would fud - but you took it silently and after negotiations for community faucet (in Shanghai with BBF).

1) Screenshots + FULL REPORT ON CURRENT MARKET SHARING FEE within 48 hours
2) Finalize the faucet deal with BBF/BitShares.eu within a week.
3) RESTORE PROPER CR on YOUR ACCOUNTS. only 2 accounts (how many devs worker claims [email protected]#) are being paid by worker, and one of them is the enemy of the markets/smartcoins. (e.g. Holding CR on bitUSD 1.33 while borrowed money is still dumped from the DEX)

Or stop the worker, or start a new worker through PROPER escrow. Obviously MultiSig means nothing.


1. You can check the full report information here. Here we also provide you with a report information that has been exported.

But as we replied above, our WP content is only responsible for the DEVELOPMENT of the APP. This is an open source community software.
ANYONE CAN OPERATE. (Of course you can run the app yourself and use your own faucet.)

2. About the replacement of the BBF faucet, it also depends on the progress of the BBF, or Apple's progress, not entirely determined by us.

3. At this point, we don't understand what you mean. However, what I want to explain to you, it is completely funny to judge only the number of accounts that have "acquired funds". We also pay fiat currency salaries to some members.
I don't think it's more reasonable about the bitUSD issue. Our members have full control over their salary, whether it is used to increase mortgages or other purposes.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask us. We are always available to answer your questions.

1. Will do. Thanks. and re Faucet - Correct, if its not having activity/marketing funded/adopted by Worker. I'm quite sure that before you joined BitShares through worker, those referrals were x6 to x10 less - without even looking. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
2. Update on progress from both parties would be more reasonable, just to understand who is slow. We do have faucet worker that is funded and shouldn't be taking 2 months to properly sign you up for it.
3. Paying developers by having enough BTS to do CR means your worker is over-funded. CR 1.33 on BitUSD is disaster and please adjust it properly (to minimum of 1.6).

Chee®s

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Isn't the Marketing fee sharing income way higher than your base opertion cost $9100 (63k cny) ?
I asked before about the income of market fee sharing because i saw the same as abit did that you got bigger amounts of cny from the vesting balance of the market fee sharing which was over 120k cny in a single month which i guess were not planned in your calculation.There is no sign this income will dry out soon.

Personly i didn't vote for the worker of BTSPP because i think you already get a big unexpected income which doesn't justify anymore the need of over $300k usd from the reserve fund which i also consider a bit expensiv

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btspp-registrar transfer 80000 CNY to btspp-team 2019/07/30 07:19:42 39632804
btspp-registrar transfer 40000 CNY to btspp-team 2019/07/23 08:29:24 39433112
btspp-registrar transfer 5000 CNY to btspp-team 2019/07/16 02:52:57 39225329


1,关于我们的worker工作内容是为社区开发一款移动端产品,包含规划的功能或社区需求的功能开发。完成后并最终开源。开源的代码任何个人或者企业都可以自行使用或运营(目前已知CTS和GDEX皆有在使用部分或全部该代码)
2,现运营并提供苹果和安卓下载的比特股移动钱包(bts++)的运营成本和收入不包含在worker工作内容之内。
3,中国区域由于政策原因无法上架区域商店进行下载等原因我们将继续运营现有的产品。未来我们希望将比特股移动钱包放到官网、苹果、谷歌商店下载并采用社区水龙头。(需要BBF的协助和配合,目前正在推进中)
4,由于手续费返佣是在我们woker通过后新加入的功能,并在之后拥有收入所以我们将取消并退还原计划的9100美元的基础运营成本费用。
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1. About our worker work is to develop a mobile product for the community, including functional development of planned functions or community needs. After the completion and eventually open source. Open source code can be used or operated by any individual or business (currently both CTS and GDEX use some or all of this code)
2. The operating costs and income of BitShare Mobile Wallet (bts++), which is currently operating and providing Apple and Android downloads, are not included in the work of the worker.
3. We will continue to operate existing products due to reasons such as the inability to upload regional stores for download due to policy reasons. In the future, we hope to put the BitShare mobile wallet on the official website, Apple, Google Store and use the community faucet. (requires assistance and cooperation from BBF, currently under progress)
4. Since the marketing fee share is a new feature after we worker passes, and then has revenue, we will cancel and refund the planned base operating cost of $9,100.

Hello Thul3
As I replied to you earlier, I think this extra income is quite unstable, and currently it is about 200CNY per day.
In July, because the Market Fee sharing was just launched, many of our previous big whale users have not yet learned. Therefore, some of the fees are relatively shared. Now that this group of people has been updated to their own referrals or faucet, our income has been reduced a lot.

So this is not a sustainable income. And then we will replace the version of faucet such as AppStore, GooglePlay, bitshares.org with the version of the community, and there will be no such income.

In summary, I hope you can vote for us. Thank you.

Take a screenshot on all btspp accounts for current market sharing fee vested and stop playing around. What you took in July from it covers 1/3 of my entire infrastructure worker for a year.
If you were transparent by yourself 100% on market fee sharing profits, nobody would fud - but you took it silently and after negotiations for community faucet (in Shanghai with BBF).

1) Screenshots + FULL REPORT ON CURRENT MARKET SHARING FEE within 48 hours
2) Finalize the faucet deal with BBF/BitShares.eu within a week.
3) RESTORE PROPER CR on YOUR ACCOUNTS. only 2 accounts (how many devs worker claims [email protected]#) are being paid by worker, and one of them is the enemy of the markets/smartcoins. (e.g. Holding CR on bitUSD 1.33 while borrowed money is still dumped from the DEX)

Or stop the worker, or start a new worker through PROPER escrow. Obviously MultiSig means nothing.

48 hours is expiring tomorrow. Please provide as requested.

Chee®s

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General Discussion / Re: Allow non-LTM accounts to be referrers?
« on: August 18, 2019, 09:39:45 am »
EOS had adoption by 5$ account creation and no fees at all for basic transfers/voting. Suggest we make a similar approach, ofc not that cheap since we are offering much more in terms of serious dapps and functionality.

Review my comment please.

https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/186#issuecomment-522289199

Chee®s

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares at the cross roads
« on: August 18, 2019, 08:19:16 am »
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Should Bitshares community allow vote buying and concentration of voting power and are we fine with the consequences?

because Bitshares is already light years behind other projects out there in terms of development and infrastructure.

I believe that this is 100% inaccurate.

For the rest, ill not comment.

Chee®s

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Hi Dr. brown,

i used to play with anytime algorithm for my graduate research in boston about 15 years ago. My supervisor Dr. eugene Eberbach told me my research was for  academic only . there were not  robotics that can use our research since none know where AI will go .  there will be the same situation you are facing as i faced  10 years ago in your upcoming bts research project.  My advice is  you can keep on taking this project and try to seeking fund form other source due to you won't be able to do any real help to  bts system and more importantly (lol) bts'e price is at less than 3 cent.  Bts system won't have enough money for non-profit research ......

Best regards

Twitter



I am pro research (0.5 year), but why should we finance a student and travel costs?

The worker already has 15k $ and it is unclear, which benefits the community gets from the worker.

One solution is here with the settlement fund: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/182
(Time to respond to my BSIP)
 
The main problem BTS has, is the deficit spending by overpriced workers, which dump BTS and don't bring any real value to the ecosystem.

Bench, maybe your mind is made up and an explanation wouldn't change it, but here you go:

In the US university system, practically all research is done by advanced PhD students; those students are directed by professors and paid a small stipend by external funding sources. The research is the student.

I wrote the Decentralized 2019 paper on my own time because I think the BitAsset problem is a very interesting one and I was making a good-faith effort to launch the project before funding arrived. Unfortunately, my own time is very limited, and unless an external funding source "buys" some of my official University time, I can't devote the many many hours that it will take to do justice to this problem. This is where the student comes in: he will spend the bulk of the time on the project, and he must be the first one to get paid -- I won't take a cent for myself from this worker unless he is funded full-time. Half-time funding isn't really appropriate for a PhD student.

To put this another way: your BSIP deserves more than my quick comments, but my in-depth comments will take time. Nonetheless, give me a few minutes and I will go write some quick comments on your BSIP.

Please read research and entire topic before you continue with your statements.

Chee®s

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BSIP59:Reduce MCR of bitUSD to 1.5
« on: August 18, 2019, 06:48:15 am »
Updated my votes as well 2019-08-17 02:14:57 (GMT +7)

Support MCR for BitEUR to 1.6 and BitUSD to 1.5, with MSSR 1.02 and 1.01 along GS protection.

More liquidity and less harm to both precious and very needed smartcoins.

@bitcrab
Please, evaluate and open discussion how possibly we could restore BitBTC - hence we have working HTLC function and actually can develop a trustless native built-in gateway through HTLC with Bitcoin blockchain.

Chee®s


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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy:baozi - proxy for anti-dilution
« on: August 18, 2019, 06:07:52 am »
Please, consider voting for my witness.
I really can't remember last time someone complained about my witness, or API node, or USD and CNY feeds. Still, beos guys decided to unvote me, with no apparent reason.
Thanks

My own reasoning:

16. bhuz
Voting: No,
Reason: No topic, not even google search returned anything. I just don't have idea who is the person/Block Producer.

Suggest you become more active around here than just when your witness is not voted in + above mentioned as Reason.

Chee®s

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy: dls.cipher
« on: August 18, 2019, 03:22:38 am »
I have removed my support from BTSPP Mobile Wallet worker ( ID: 1.14.198 ), until team provides requested details for more transparency.

Read more https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28460.msg334018#msg334018

Chee®s

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Isn't the Marketing fee sharing income way higher than your base opertion cost $9100 (63k cny) ?
I asked before about the income of market fee sharing because i saw the same as abit did that you got bigger amounts of cny from the vesting balance of the market fee sharing which was over 120k cny in a single month which i guess were not planned in your calculation.There is no sign this income will dry out soon.

Personly i didn't vote for the worker of BTSPP because i think you already get a big unexpected income which doesn't justify anymore the need of over $300k usd from the reserve fund which i also consider a bit expensiv

Quote
btspp-registrar transfer 80000 CNY to btspp-team 2019/07/30 07:19:42 39632804
btspp-registrar transfer 40000 CNY to btspp-team 2019/07/23 08:29:24 39433112
btspp-registrar transfer 5000 CNY to btspp-team 2019/07/16 02:52:57 39225329


1,关于我们的worker工作内容是为社区开发一款移动端产品,包含规划的功能或社区需求的功能开发。完成后并最终开源。开源的代码任何个人或者企业都可以自行使用或运营(目前已知CTS和GDEX皆有在使用部分或全部该代码)
2,现运营并提供苹果和安卓下载的比特股移动钱包(bts++)的运营成本和收入不包含在worker工作内容之内。
3,中国区域由于政策原因无法上架区域商店进行下载等原因我们将继续运营现有的产品。未来我们希望将比特股移动钱包放到官网、苹果、谷歌商店下载并采用社区水龙头。(需要BBF的协助和配合,目前正在推进中)
4,由于手续费返佣是在我们woker通过后新加入的功能,并在之后拥有收入所以我们将取消并退还原计划的9100美元的基础运营成本费用。
————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
1. About our worker work is to develop a mobile product for the community, including functional development of planned functions or community needs. After the completion and eventually open source. Open source code can be used or operated by any individual or business (currently both CTS and GDEX use some or all of this code)
2. The operating costs and income of BitShare Mobile Wallet (bts++), which is currently operating and providing Apple and Android downloads, are not included in the work of the worker.
3. We will continue to operate existing products due to reasons such as the inability to upload regional stores for download due to policy reasons. In the future, we hope to put the BitShare mobile wallet on the official website, Apple, Google Store and use the community faucet. (requires assistance and cooperation from BBF, currently under progress)
4. Since the marketing fee share is a new feature after we worker passes, and then has revenue, we will cancel and refund the planned base operating cost of $9,100.

Hello Thul3
As I replied to you earlier, I think this extra income is quite unstable, and currently it is about 200CNY per day.
In July, because the Market Fee sharing was just launched, many of our previous big whale users have not yet learned. Therefore, some of the fees are relatively shared. Now that this group of people has been updated to their own referrals or faucet, our income has been reduced a lot.

So this is not a sustainable income. And then we will replace the version of faucet such as AppStore, GooglePlay, bitshares.org with the version of the community, and there will be no such income.

In summary, I hope you can vote for us. Thank you.

Take a screenshot on all btspp accounts for current market sharing fee vested and stop playing around. What you took in July from it covers 1/3 of my entire infrastructure worker for a year.
If you were transparent by yourself 100% on market fee sharing profits, nobody would fud - but you took it silently and after negotiations for community faucet (in Shanghai with BBF).

1) Screenshots + FULL REPORT ON CURRENT MARKET SHARING FEE within 48 hours
2) Finalize the faucet deal with BBF/BitShares.eu within a week.
3) RESTORE PROPER CR on YOUR ACCOUNTS. only 2 accounts (how many devs worker claims [email protected]#) are being paid by worker, and one of them is the enemy of the markets/smartcoins. (e.g. Holding CR on bitUSD 1.33 while borrowed money is still dumped from the DEX)

Or stop the worker, or start a new worker through PROPER escrow. Obviously MultiSig means nothing.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy: dls.cipher
« on: August 17, 2019, 04:12:26 pm »
Thanks for your support DL.

Once again, voted out. This time by biggest delta, was in the 600 million vote range, now in the 400s. I appear to have lost the support of 2 proxies early yesterday.

I just finished upgrading my feeds to use Zapata's feed script, but can't put it into operation while being voted out.

You are most welcome. You were one of the worst who accepted me around here, being who I am in late 2017-early 2018. Appreciate all the support through times, and respect your consistency and reporting you still do provide around here.

Hope that you get voted back in sooner than later.

Chee®s

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I am pro research (0.5 year), but why should we finance a student and travel costs?

The worker already has 15k $ and it is unclear, which benefits the community gets from the worker.

One solution is here with the settlement fund: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/182
(Time to respond to my BSIP)
 
The main problem BTS has, is the deficit spending by overpriced workers, which dump BTS and don't bring any real value to the ecosystem.

No need to compare unless you have some Educational backed research to share around here and keep in mind that you're addressing account number 1361 of the BitShares blockchain. If nothing, his eyes and brain seen and accumulated more than you or myself can do in another lifetime.

PhD Student is in this case hired by the University to do a research on behalf of it, under strict supervision of Assistant Professor (biophil). You think someone will issue paper and spend 2 years to do research for free utilizing University/Educational budget ? At the time he will not be even student anymore.

We sponsor University to cover the costs for doing so.

Chee®s

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