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I didn't questioned the voting but the execution from witnesses without informing the community.
There should be at least a 48h prior info on changing the MSSR from all witnesses so traders and other people have time to adjust if needed.

Letting them jump into cold water is not something i consider being trustful and trusting an exchange is a key point for any trader.

How I understand things around here (maybe im wrong), there has never been prior info to anything apart from software updates (e.g pre-scheduled releases of core and ui). Half of the witnesses is not even active on forums, and some who are active did post announcement.


Now, i agree with your concern, but problem is quite more complicated than that. Consensus says that workers needs to be executed when active and if not defined in worker itself (e.g. After activation witnesses will update price feed within 48 hours), then witnesses are free to update their feeds in any reasonable amount of time and without any publication.

Another problem is, that if they haven't updated MSSR upon activation, probably half of them would be voted out by bitcrab, so they didn't had much choice.

I hope this clear more the entire process, you do have a strong point but in delegated proof of stake, where we all chase each other to delegate just an information, what you request is pretty much impossible without proper worker before any update (specific instructions, dates, releases, etc per execution).


General Discussion / Re: Question To All Active Witnesses
« on: December 28, 2018, 05:41:26 pm »
all active witnesses please respond, are you guys going to allow the margin call wall on BTS/CNY to be eaten or will you keep not letting it be eaten?

Currently MSSR changed to 105% instead of 110%, this tells me you don't want it to be eaten?

If you decrease feed, it means you want it to be eaten.

Please answer:

1) Yes, I want the wall to be eaten
2) No, I don't want the wall to be eaten

BSIP41 was written and Worker was voted in, by community and proxies.

More info here:


General Discussion / Re: New Website Is Not Authentic
« on: December 28, 2018, 04:16:23 pm »
DL, your opinion will be too biased for this discussion, I need other community members' opinions instead

also, nothing "biased", content as per whitepaper:

I don't think this complaints is reasonable.

we have gone through the process from bsip drafting to bsip voting to implementation.

maybe I played a key role in the whole process, but even I do not know the exact time that MSSR change from 1.1 to 1.05.

I drafted the bsip and open the voting worker proposal.

as a proxy, I vote the bsip.

when the voting passed, i reminded the witnesses to change.

but should/can I give a time and request all the witnesses to change at that time?

I don't think this is necessary or very feasible.

if you run trade bots and the MSSR is important to your trading, you need to always get MSSR before trading.

now if more voting power oppose to reduce MSSR than support it, then theoretically witnesses can change the result just according to the voting result.

this is decentralization.

Agree with bitcrab on this one. BSIP was written and voted in yesterday, hence all witnesses started producing feed. Witnesses who are not producing feed are either on Holiday with families either busy, and will tend to it asap.

Try to enjoy Holidays and face reality that bitUSD is under blackswan and entire markets are quite hard for trading on the blockchain.

Happy New Year.

General Discussion / Re: New Website Is Not Authentic
« on: December 28, 2018, 03:56:43 pm »
Did the SEC actually take BBF/whoever to court? Where is the evidence for this?

Currently Move Institute is owner of domain and will not represent trading dapp without licence, owner or responsible entity for all those securities issued by unnamed people.

General Discussion / Re: New Website Is Not Authentic
« on: December 28, 2018, 03:53:39 pm »
Did the SEC actually take BBF/whoever to court? Where is the evidence for this?

BitShares is a blockchain, and you need to inform yourself asap.

DEX is native dApp on BitShares blockchain.

General Discussion / Re: would you support a cheater as the wintess?
« on: December 28, 2018, 09:18:14 am »
@alt, You're wrong on this one.

Crazybit FINALLY updated his feeding script (which you were right to be upset about) but he is not cheating now.

He is not FOLLOWING median price, instead his feed is SETTING median price most of the time (which means he is very accurate)

This becomes obvious if you don't track by hand but instead use zapata's tracker to look at his and other witnesses feeding activity:
can you told me how obvious he is not follow the median price?
did you see the snapshot about how exactely his feed price change after the median price?
and thank you, this chat show more clear that how exactely every 5 meniutes his price followed the median price. just choose the price from crazybit and median price.

Reference to read:

Please give it a good read, hire someone technical and economical and come with a proof or will be facing another lock of topic.


Stakeholder Proposals / MOVED: please stop PM me for vote support
« on: December 27, 2018, 09:10:33 am »

Meta / Re: please stop PM me for vote support
« on: December 27, 2018, 08:12:15 am »
You should update then your voting slate since a lot of injustice you're bringing around.


1) Bangzi is a good witness who provided fucking CNY price amongst first one - you ignorantly replied him that he was too slow.
2) Only Committee you are voting at the moment is openledger-dc

And yeah, ill not send you personal message, ill tell you like this:

You have 24 hours to give Flash Infrastructure Worker your vote since its NO MANAGEMENT FEE or im gonna pull the plug on it, then we will see how much API's are operational without it and what is this nonsense you are trying to achieve just marching in back to the ecosystem with 40M in votes making such a mess.



Consider this drama locked.

Best regards.


"or im gonna pull the plug on it" = Worker is having another month and something left and since its no management fee i certainly not wish to continue another worker with representatives of proxy such as Alt/Baozi. It's a disgrace for blockchain and everything what we worked really hard on for past 400 days that i can account myself for.

Meta / Re: Spam Bots
« on: December 25, 2018, 02:50:49 am »
Total 2550 Members.

2550?!  :o

That is a way bigger number than I thought it was going to be. Less spam waves of posts, better experience.

I'm sure total number is 10 times more since Newbie level is counting 35k users... Gonna do more detailed queries after Christmas.

btw, Merry Christmas and "XO XO XO" :D

Meta / Re: Spam Bots
« on: December 25, 2018, 02:01:42 am »
Can you put accounts with 0 posts not logged in for a year on "must be reappeared" state? How many accounts like that are there?

I've done quick and single search with following parameters:

Account level: Newbie
Last online: <= 2017-01-01
Posts count: 0

Total 2550 Members.

Its just one search and list is horrible. We really need to cleanup forums if we wanna proper SEO and activity on them.


Meta / Re: Spam Bots
« on: December 24, 2018, 04:19:28 pm »
Arent accounts now manually approved?These spamming accounts where old sleeping accounts from 2015.

Correct. Im banning past 48 hours and removing topics from sleepers dating all between Feb and July 2015. We should maybe make a database export and permanently delete all accounts who haven't logged in last 365 days. Interesting enough to set the voting poll ?


Technical Support / Re: Market Fees not updating in RC1?
« on: December 24, 2018, 02:33:18 am »
Yes, these two issues have been fixed recently. The misspelling was merged a few days ago and the market fee will be in the next release.

Done. Locked for further discussion and will be moved to Graveyard in 3 days.


Technical Support / Re: Market Fees not updating in RC1?
« on: December 23, 2018, 06:05:31 pm »
What about the missing fee calculation ?

I have not done anything with that. Looks like it’s been brought up a couple times:

Thanks, dev from my team is looking into it now.


Technical Support / Re: Market Fees not updating in RC1?
« on: December 23, 2018, 05:41:51 pm »
I fixed the spelling, it is already merged with the development branch.

What about the missing fee calculation ?

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