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Messages - Digital Lucifer

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don't worry, I have supported some workers
but I will not support too many workers or witness because most of them are still very unresponsible.

How are workers unresponsible when you can ping them on Telegram, you get answers
here in the forums, on github and elsewhere?

most of them got support only because that they have good friendship with some proxy.

So you are saying because I do my background research and get to know the people I vote (and vouch) for,
They don't get your votes despite them delivering on *their* promises?
Not sure about everyone else, but that doesn't sound about right to me.

How about we set up a workers group (mailing list, telegram, whatever) so you get to know those workers
better and can judge on *their performance* instead of their connection to me?

Connected with you @xeroc or not connected (completely unreasonable being disconnected from someone of that knowledge on BitShares in technical sense), I've pissed blood and shit babies to get workers that I'm managing now, even for over 8 months - FREE before I actually got a worker!

- Infrastructure worker is 0 management fee. There is over 90% average uptime on all nodes and reduced costs from 3500 USD to ~1600 USD.
- Trusty worker - fuck all, I logged maybe in total 2000 USD for managing entire new DEX - NOW thanks to you Alt/Baozi it's voted out. 7 hard working people are out of income, only one they have and they don't deserve to lose it.
- Bitshares.org worker - pffff don't wanna go there. Off for nearly 10 days thanks to your first refund400k.

Luckily BBF is really good acting as escrow, so all of my workers, and most of other workers can still have enough funds to claim this last month of a year.

What are you trying to prove here ? That you can molest good people because you have cash ? WOW! And I thought we should represent as ecosystem on dpos blockchain EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.

Chee®s, enjoy fun while it lasts, we will wait no worries.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Fee Schedule Proposal] - New fee schedule
« on: December 18, 2018, 04:56:33 am »
One thing is the transfer and asset issuing costs. I believe RuDEX as well as CryptoBridge, not sure about others, issue their UIAs when someone deposits. Increasing the asset issuance, by that much, will cause some extra costs to those gateways, and possibly shutdown of certain coins. I don't know if that will happen. I hope blckchnd can enlighten us, not sure if he's on here. I get for the normal user, but we should also think about the gateways.

Exactly point - where blockchain earns then ? If Rudex, OL or CB just click and issue bunch of UIA's they are charging for 1 and 2 percent market fees and blockchain earns what ? 1/10th of a cent ? Self-funded ? Long-lasting ? My ass.

0.03 or 0.05 USD to be paid once you issue amount of assets is not that much. For the fact, gateways can update their current scripts and replace part where deposit issues asset, and instead issue assets to coldstorage wallet on BTS and use simple transfer on each deposit received.

Please keep in mind that reserve pool (blockchain) currently earns nothing, while others do. As BitShares is core of all those businesses - its not healthy position for BitShares to continue operating at current fees. End of discussion.

@clockwork - full support!

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Hi guys :)

Great initiatives by community (especially @intelliguy) by spreading awareness that participation on workers is a must!

@blockchained

What is the current status on progress of the worker ?

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Introducing ioBanker.com
« on: December 07, 2018, 03:53:53 am »
Dear stakeholders and the community members,

My name is Ammar Yousef (R0CK) and I hereby to introduce myself to the respectful Committee and Witness members who are behind this wonderful futuristic platform.

About me:

I'd rather to say I'm from Earth; I've lived enough to adore technology, science, philosophy, universal history, ancient languages and playing music.

I believe I'm doing nothing but continuing my infinite existing information's journey, I'm watching thru the eye, yet I have no choice
but to witness.

I believe I can be an active positive entity within any community or group; serving the holy society and environment around me and expecting a peaceful eternal life. I’m blessed to be married to a beautiful lovely wife and to have my only son Julian the smartest boy ever and I’m doing my best for them and for the society behind me.

I've been on the internet since I was 12 years old, I'm almost 37 years old now, I've been into many projects on the internet related to science and society.

I've been administering banking systems for 15 years and currently I'm the data center architect of "Warba Bank" in Kuwait.

My latest work is "ioBanker", I've established ioBanker limited company in Estonia and got licenses to perform crypto exchange financial services.

We are finalizing the project at this great platform and looking for support, we've chosen this great platform because we believe in DEX and we believe in trustless philosophy when it comes to this market.

I've done the setup of the core node myself along with the UI and it's currently deployed on "https://dex.iobanker.com" operating from data centers in Germany and I've successfully done the setup of the witness node "iobanker-core".

I'm so glad that I've found you guys and looking forward to hear from you.


Regards,

Ammar Yousef
CEO - ioBanker
AmmarYousef.com

Welcome to the network and wish you a great success, especially as someone who is licensed for trading already! Regarding witness, I suggest you create a testnet witness, post the details/specs and account name, so it's get voted-in there first and see how it performs.

Chee®s

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General Discussion / Re: suggest to disable forcesettlement for bitCNY
« on: November 13, 2018, 05:58:15 am »
tomorrow the poll will be closed, please vote to express your opinion.
Create a worker proposal based poll, not an easily manipulated forum poll - I had to re-cast my vote for some reason and there's a new poll option now.. not ideal. 20% is way too much for force settlement offset 👎

Well, i stated earlier in TG that 15% would be sufficient by my personal opinion, but anyway - quite more happy with 20% change option than any other included in the poll

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Thank you for concern. We are aware of the problem with registering new accounts and few other problems that forums are having at the moment. Currently soft-launch of bitshares.org is going on, so everybody are quite busy, but announcement about Forum moderation will follow up later this week (24 hours forums will be in "Maintenance mode").


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Graveyard / Re: [Board Removal] Gravity.io - Abandoned project
« on: November 13, 2018, 05:51:13 am »
Thanks for all feedback, poll has been locked and thread+this topic is going to graveyard.

Chee®s

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Graveyard / Re: [Board Removal] Gravity.io - Abandoned project
« on: November 09, 2018, 04:29:01 am »
Well, gravity *IS* a graphene fork. They do stuff and even presented @ GrapheneDev Conference in Shanghai.
Not sure if they use the forums still, but gravity seems legit

Gravity.io moved on to another project called UCommunity, earlier in August. Confirmed personally in their TG that website, project and open-source github - FINISHED.

Their ex Community Manager - Brendan (@iamredbar) can confirm.

Chee®s
Confirmed. I voted to remove Gravity.io from bitsharestalk.org.

While I still have control of the Twitter account and am an admin on the old Telegram chat, the project is done. They did not let me know they were joined with Ucommunity until I started asking questions.

Thanks for clarifying this to our Community.

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Graveyard / Re: [Board Removal] Gravity.io - Abandoned project
« on: November 09, 2018, 04:23:08 am »
Well, gravity *IS* a graphene fork. They do stuff and even presented @ GrapheneDev Conference in Shanghai.
Not sure if they use the forums still, but gravity seems legit

Gravity.io moved on to another project called UCommunity, earlier in August. Confirmed personally in their TG that website, project and open-source github - FINISHED.

Their ex Community Manager - Brendan (@iamredbar) can confirm.

Chee®s
Confirmed. I voted to remove Gravity.io from bitsharestalk.org.

While I still have control of the Twitter account and am an admin on the old Telegram chat, the project is done. They did not let me know they were joined with Ucommunity until I started asking questions.

I've voted yes on this basis.

You know by now that I do my research well before public inquiries :D :D :D

Many thanks

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Graveyard / Re: [Board Removal] Gravity.io - Abandoned project
« on: November 08, 2018, 03:52:16 pm »
Well, gravity *IS* a graphene fork. They do stuff and even presented @ GrapheneDev Conference in Shanghai.
Not sure if they use the forums still, but gravity seems legit

Gravity.io moved on to another project called UCommunity, earlier in August. Confirmed personally in their TG that website, project and open-source github - FINISHED.

Their ex Community Manager - Brendan (@iamredbar) can confirm.

Chee®s

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Graveyard / [Board Removal] Gravity.io - Abandoned project
« on: November 08, 2018, 02:40:45 pm »
Dear eco-system,

Earlier this year hyped and nice looking project called "Gravity.io" with all of their Stealth UI and "wannabe github open-source" announcements went to drain and they moved on to another project. I would appreciate your vote on removing their board from our forums. We need to keep good track regarding activity on projects that we welcome and collaborate with.

VOTE POLL IS OPEN FOR 5 DAYS ONLY.

Many thanks.

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In general i don't agree with this worker, here are some reasons:

- Cost. It cost almost 300k usd(288000 usd to be exact to do it).
- Limited. It is database specific, a new worker may came in saying mongodb or whatever is better for their specific needs.
- Closed to participate. No one except the bts.ai team can participate in the development.
- Closed source. It don't says anything that all the work will be open source and MIT license. Will bts.ai be open source and inside the bitshares organization ?
- Reinvent the wheel. The Elasticsearch plugin is working great and have all the data needed, the synchronization time is of 20 hours according to a last report, all the data inside operations is structured and available. That cost 0 to bitshares as it is already done. Doing the same from scratch using another database by a new team is IMHO a waste of resources. The core team, with the accumulated experience can do a postgres plugin in extremely reduced time if that is what the community needs. Also, the core team can pay a team or individual to do the plugin as plugins are core work and will need review and approval from core team members.
- Benefit. Besides having some better visualizations of some data which i think is important i don't see any other real benefit of the proposal.

In my opinion i will like to see some day a general worker that will do this and others in a bounty style, most of the API links mentioned are not being developed because there is  no funding to get developers on board. There is already a ruby project for bitshares at https://github.com/MatzFan/bitshares-ruby not being improved because of lack of funding, among many other dead projects.

I think that bitshares needs a worker proposal similar to the core worker where teams and individuals can participate in the development of different tools of the bitshares ecosystem.

It honestly looks to me like reinventing the wheel after all the work it has been done in this particular regard, discard everything and start from scratch instead of build on top of previous tools to save time, resources and advance.

Just my personal opinion, i don't have any voting power or influence to decide what is accepted or not.


The important thing is NOT PostgreSQL or ES or Mongo or anything . What we care most about is how to implement the requirment .

such as:
1) How to draw charts using specified data in a certain period, e.g. the average price of a market pair, the issue/burn number of an asset, and the feed price of a smart asset.
All these stuffs are unstructured by ES currently, which take some problems to our implements.
2) Bitshares is an exchange such that there may be more professional approach to the storage and analysis the transaction data in exchange viewpoint.

As mentioned in this worker, we will open source under MIT. If this worker is validated, then all future data APIs on bts.ai will be open source, which has been part of this worker.

2) BitShares is a Blockchain who have much brighter and wider future than just an Exchange.

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If you want to get how much asset was issued in a period of time you can filter the elasticsearch operations by operation_type 14(ASSET ISSUE) and by  operation_history.op_object.asset_to_issue.asset_id in a period of time, please check this link:
http://148.251.96.48:5601/app/kibana#/discover?_g=()&_a=(columns:!(_source),index:'357b9f60-d5f8-11e8-bb51-9583fd938437',interval:auto,query:(language:lucene,query:'operation_type:%2014'),sort:!(block_data.block_time,desc))

If you want to go after the feed prices of a smart asset you can filter by operation type 19 and smart asset id: http://148.251.96.48:5601/app/kibana#/discover?_g=()&_a=(columns:!(_source),index:'357b9f60-d5f8-11e8-bb51-9583fd938437',interval:auto,query:(language:lucene,query:'operation_type:%2019%20AND%20%20operation_history.op_object.asset_id:%201.3.113'),sort:!(block_data.block_time,desc))

In both kibana links you can change the timeframe in the upper right.

If you want to get market price changes you can go after the fill order and so on.

Also, when operations are not enough there is the es_objects plugin that will allow to export certain(currently predefined) specific objects; however i am making some changes to try to make it work with any blockchain object so for example you could get the internal ticker objects for a pair and get the current and past market prices from there.

I strongly believe that those 2 plugins are in the same direction you want to go.

ES/Kibana plugin/UI has BEEN DEVELOPED, TESTED and have very GOOD and ON-GOING development/maintenance atm, 100% agree.

My personal and professional opinion on this would be: Someone stepped up already earlier and now we don't need another proposal that is "re-inventing the wheel" without proper diligence done towards achievements/implementations done in our eco-system.

Many thanks.

Chee®s

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General Discussion / Re: [eng] Marketing Efforts and Pre-Worker Discussion
« on: November 07, 2018, 02:53:05 am »
Hello everyone.

First of - it's very nice to see marketing efforts and offers that were recently started by Yuri (OL) and Fabian (@xeroc), it's definitely a must for BitShares to have proper branding and more focused audience.

Unfortunately, reviewing this entire proposal I do have to agree with replies before mine. It's overpriced, with 0 proper diligence on BitShares as a tech and cryptocurrency; focus they've offered is pretty much top of the default "current trends" by AdWords, and our SEO being done for new bitshares.org within just that tiny-miny worker is far more professional and focused than this.

@xeroc - i'm glad you're supporting marketing efforts and brings me joy to know that there is proper support from our top proxies for such efforts, but as a colleague from the blockchain that has experience on this matter, my advice would be to hold on for all marketing efforts until December. To be more clear, read below:

- .org is planned to be live before "Decentralized" in Athens, Greece (12th of November)
- Most of content will have already tweaked SEO on each page; what is not done for the Event from the SEO, will be completed by end of November.
- New .org will contain Google Analytics with proper integration and monitoring for each page. I'm certain that Home Page and few key pages under Technology Menu will fully done before the Event, ready to hit some traffic.
- Local online Thai Newspaper (12 years old) with 10-12k visitors monthly will advertise BitShares website for 3 months, starting the day when we put new .org online. (More traffic)
- Once we have better analytics and data collected we can:
a) Do proper marketing campaigns with targeted key-phrases, localities, offer where there is higher demand, etc. by ourselves through a worker
or b) Then hire professional marketing company with our own request and analytics collected (it's a great filter for 3rd parties while getting/considering their offers).

But at the current stage, this would have sense to be discussed again somewhere around early/mid of December.

Chee®s

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