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General Discussion / Re: Whale Powered Assets
« on: April 20, 2016, 09:33:58 am »
比特股寻精之旅!
bitshares searching for sperm  of journey!

great!
good idea!
i like this!
just do it!
 +5% +5% +5%

Are you the one who sent me a bunch of SPERM UIA?..  ::)

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: April 18, 2016, 09:20:33 am »

how long before the anti dilution crowd sells out?  We need to be able to readily vote in solid worker proposals otherwise we will cease development.

if it's true that Yunbi (an exchange?) is voting against Workers and having their heavy buddies do the same, then let's either A) disable Yunbi in the web wallet, and/or B) do the same thing with CCEDK/OL, Blocktrades and MetaExchange voting FOR the Workers. Fight fire with fire and we will never have to worry about a cheating exchange again. Light'em up! - think Sun Tzu

There is a part of me strongly on this side, but one question is: How to change the rules without being seen as a platform that is too unstable in its own self governance to be built on?

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This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!

Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
 
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
 
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.

 +5% +5%  Thanks Ken...  For what it is worth, I'm very happy with the past and the present.  These are startups, so I keep learning to enjoy the ride..

I recognize that blockchains like BitShares are the right thing to do so I continue to upgrade my personal finances to use this new technology and invest in new businesses that show they can be sustained long term.  There is very little I can do to gage adoption or even to put a financial price tag on this.  Isn't user adoption something like cash, will you ever have enough?  If one can have passion and do well user adoption is free... The incentive is more excitement in the way of future opportunity.

These are real business and we have an awesome exchange on BitShares.  It is fast, high-volume, secure, decentralized and efficient.  I hear of very clever workarounds to the speed issues in blockchains and, although I would implement them if I were in their shoes (to keep things going), I would always know very well that as a developer they are cracks in a foundation.  One little hack in the core can take down a platform in unforeseen ways.  DL understand this well so this gives me confidence in his work.  I know this part of the platform should not change frequently and does not require his constant attention.  The less frequent the better.  This is great news for us, we have property now that will keep giving us value at little or no cost at all.  This is why we put forth all the time and effort up front to create things that will last.  You don't want to change them latter.  Also, for this reason it is completely normal to move to other modules, projects, chains, etc...  None of this raises a red flag for me.  Software is complex, you need to move to another area so you have freedom and can't break any code.   Fighting this is like fighting the rip currents, the key is to go with the flow and gently move in the direction you need to go...

This is what I was after, I wanted to see this become a reality.  The market experiments are a lot of fun to use and watch, these are important tools for very serious investors.  This is exactly what we need, if we are going to be home for major investors and even the average person's retirement portfolio.  This is a huge step up for the average joe.  Also, for this to be viable we needed web and mobile clients.  We pulled it off.  The major pieces are here...  Best of all the community owns it in full so this sets the stage for a honest future where it is greed and monopoly resistant.

This is another asset for the BitShares exchange.  Keep them coming ;)...

great points jcal

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Funny, no one mentions the other bombshell today... hint:  it ends in "3.0".

I kind of half listened to the mumble and I didn't hear anything about this. Anyone know what Stan's alluding to here?

i think BM mentioned lessions learnt for BTS 3.0 but didn't said something that this is in the pipline, because you know, lack of funds, mean no development on the blockchain, only on the frontend.

bombshells just anger people more... at least historically.  I am more trying to say there are many chains out their that compete against us and have centralized bodies paying their dev teams.   Bitcoin and ETH both exemplify this.  Yet people somehow think Dan and team are horrible when I assure you the eth core devs and btc core devs have been promised constant payment indefinitely until when? until they WIN in the market and probably beyond.

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surprised with all the value brought by tony's seemingly endless well of anger, that he has not been interested in putting together a worker proposal.  If he had, he might have a bit more of an appreciation for why the team needs to pivot.  Apparently they are supposed to work for free endlessly (although i am relatively certain that would not stop the onslaught of attacks...

sry, but for "free" is a little bit underestimate. They got plenty of funds, but some of these funds got thrown away carelessly. I am pretty sure that bytemaster has a large
balance from mining PTS and this is the reason why he cannot compare his position with svks. in most cryptoprojects the devs are not paid because they are the founders and hold large positions, so i think it is not wicely that the founder leave this project without delevering what was promised. To say this project is complete and he moves on - leaves me just not understanding.

keep in mind what was promised for BTS 2.0 and with the mergers. So far not much was acomplished.

I disagree that not much was accomplished, but most of that really was because of the early merger (imho)-- which kept us from having chains like dns selling dpos to other demographics.  Id like us to have some documentation on the spending because though I agree they made some mistakes trusting the wrong people early on with some of the funding, I have a hard time believing the squandered itthe money.  Now with THAT said...all we have achieved is not only because of the cnx team.  However most of the other people sacrificing to make bitshares what it is today are not really making what they COULD if they stopped being loyal to bts only.   So i look at bms move just like i look at metaexchange for carrying other tokens or building other future projects they feel might compliment metaexchange.  People need to eat and if their own family wont feed them expect them to go searching themselves.

I could not fault you (or tony) for reaching out and trying new things (steem is brilliant -- save for the branding imho) to keep funds in their pockets. 

What is sad is that because of bms transparency he has to endure shit that the guy who aonymously created NXT or many other cryptoswill never have to endure.  He COULD have done it that way with bitshares and a LARGE number of speculative chains, and could pull together a small group to mine and then pump them together as an anonymous dev.  But the dude doesnt do that!  Really sad to me that he gets so much hell.  However, i will say our talk about funding is mute if there is not a solid accounting thereof.

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So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).


We have been doing precisely this for the past 3 sessions.  BM is moving toward a role more as a community member (who will naturally be asked more questions than most people and will in turn talk more because of this fact). 

However, I can honestly say that for the past 900+ days working on coordinating hangouts with the community ( and guests from Solarcoin's project lead to Sunny King and much more) that I have always kept it open for the community to step up and lead the conversation (show me other places that enable this).  Whether THEY choose to do so is up to them. 

See I agree with you Ken, but then again we have been doing this already.  ;)

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This will be so awsome, i feel like a big rock is finally of my back. It's so great!

Agreed. So many folks have been complaining that the captain of the ship keeps getting sidetracked and then never finishes a feature to shareholders expectations. So, I think the friday mumbles could now be moderated by the Beyond Bitcoin team but the guests can be those who want to talk about their projects. No more perception of a top-down structure (i have even seen Bitshares referred to as central banking 2.0).
 
I had a nice conversation with BM, Stan, Onceupon and Thom yesterday on mumble after the official mumble. We have a very solid plan to move Bitshares forward. Blinded transactions, recurring and scheduled payments, bond market, liquidity bots and market makers, margin trading, free transactions, Smartcoins POS integrations, a 2nd mobile wallet app for iOS and android (all native and material design), skin-able specific use-case wallets, Marketing... There are lots of things being started, worked on and finished up as we speak.
 
BitShares Munich will be expanding over the coming days. BM has been so far, and confirms that he will continue to consult with us in assisting our expansion, getting more Devs up to speed on graphene, direction with the different repos and docs, etc. We have roughly 40 Devs (c++, js, python and ui/x etc) that can work with us on various projects (as you guys know I have been in software and outsourcing for over 24 years now). Roughly 7 of those 40 are employed with us full-time and as more investment comes in we can slowly expand further. I would like all of the existing projects above finished/polished first and make them awesome.

Agreed, I think Bitshares still has a lot of valuable members and talented coders: Bitshares Munich, Bunkerchain Labs, bitcash, transwiser.com, etc.

I think its time for the community to step up and make this project truly great!

Great!  So what are you planning?

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surprised with all the value brought by tony's seemingly endless well of anger, that he has not been interested in putting together a worker proposal.  If he had, he might have a bit more of an appreciation for why the team needs to pivot.  Apparently they are supposed to work for free endlessly (although i am relatively certain that would not stop the onslaught of attacks...

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: April 16, 2016, 07:48:42 am »
Being a Mexican (at heart), I am very curious to see how this BTS price game plays out....
The gringos accuse the Chinese of trying to destroy their baby ( BTS)...while much the same gringos are selling like crazy (at least 200+ mil BTS in the last 2 mo. alone, imho).

All at the same time "the Chinese crazy anti dilutors" have 5x more to lose in any significant bts price drop... so they better buy before the gringos push the price to 200 sat territory.

Why buy before 200 if it were to go that low? lol...
And how do you know the gringos were selling millions of bts?
As far as the chinese having some bigger whales, that is entirely possible, but then again i would imagine it is partially because the devs worked for lower than market wages considering their skill level. But i may be missing some important facts 

I still personally believe in bitshares and the community. Ill be very surprised if it ever goes to 200 sats (unless btc price doubles when block reward halves).  But i must admit im a bit biased.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares price discussion
« on: April 16, 2016, 07:06:02 am »


I have a bad feeling about this. With the Steem announcement, BTS becomes a less interesting story for investor/speculators. In the not-to-distant-future I could see BTC spiking above $500,  ETH falling 50%, and BTS doing a bellyflop freefall into sub 200 satoshis.

Why do you say sub 200 satoshis?  And if for some reason it does go that far down, we will know that the antidilution crowd was probably wrong all along.   I personally do see some merits to their stance, but continue to be skeptical.  I suppose we shall see.

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43 in and participating!

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40 in and participating!

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37 participants in!

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General Discussion / Re: MakerX - new bitshares frontend in town
« on: April 15, 2016, 06:31:30 am »
how is the pool refilled?

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[member=11456]svk[/member] could explain how you can create your own business front end for your tokens.
???  great idea

Why not have a hangout with followmyvote?

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