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General Discussion / Re: Some questions
« on: October 21, 2019, 03:21:46 pm »


1.) They were disabled as any other worker around the blockchain. For the current Marketing efforts, discussions and active participants - please visit https://t.me/bitshares_marketing (use VPN or Opera and web.telegram to access it)

2.) Question is ridiculous towards workers. Workers are already working hard for bitshares by their work. Their wages are being paid AFTER THE WORK is done. For the Committee - they don't earn nothing to hold, and many of them are holding some BTS.

3.) Each worker is proposal from a certain team and has its own manager when it comes to worker. Community who is literal in English (globally accepted language for international communication and business) can read proposal and vote for it - based on what terms, offer and actual worker does.

Witnesses are slaves ever since i joined ecosystem, and based they have under 1,000.00 USD salary with costs just to be a witness between 700.00 USD and 1500.00 USD (Assuming they are doing all pro style), i don't know what you want them to hold .

Nobody should "obey" anyone, but everyone should come to agreement based on proposed/accepted/ignored mechanism that works on BitShares for very long time.

4.) Nobody is boss of BitShares but participant in ecosystem and consensus. Chinese community had most witnesses since inception, promising a lot of marketing and bridging between west&east but this is result of all of them obviously.

Chinese did invested and lost a lot of money, since general tradition is prone to gambling (just look EOSIO, i mean no fud).

Nobody deserve any power but vote and voice in ecosystem. If you want to dominate - i suggest you don't try that here, it will backfire on you in legal terms (promise).


Chee®s
1.他们做了十分低效的工作,但是却申请了非常高昂的报酬。在https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29600.0和https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2019-09-global-marketing-board-outlook-cn,并没有具体详细的宣传和营销计划,大部分内容都是申请资金,钱!钱!钱!
甚至在这个营销团队的计划中,把中国社区很多宣传志愿者也列了进去,而他们并不知情,这是借用他们的名义在冒领资金吗?这就是他们的worker不应该被通过的原因。
They did very inefficient work, but they applied for very high rewards.In the information displayed on https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29600.0 and https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2019-09-global-marketing-board-outlook-cn,There is no specific detailed publicity and marketing plan, most of the content is to apply for funds, money and money!Even in this marketing team's plan, many publicity volunteers in the Chinese community were included, and the volunteers did not know. Was they borrowing funds in their name?This is why their Worker should not be passed.

2.一些worker的团队既不公布开发进度,也没有带来实质的效果,但是却源源不断的从资金池里领取BTS,然后在市场抛售。这些人就是这样获取BTS的吗?0成本的获取吗?这就是他们持有的方式吗?
Some Worker teams neither announced the development progress nor brought about substantial results, but they continually collected BTS from the pool of funds and then sold them in the market. Are these people getting BTS like this? 0 cost acquisition? Is this the way they hold it?

3.见证人是奴隶?多么可笑而且荒谬的看法!中国也有很多见证人,我也和其中的不少人讨论过,收益远远满足支出!那些觉得因为做见证人而亏损的人,完全可以主动表示不再继续当见证人,还有很多人等着去当见证人!
Witnesses are slaves?What a ridiculous and ridiculous view! There are also many witnesses in China. I have also discussed with many of them, and the benefits far exceed the expenditure!Those who feel that they are losing money because they are witnesses can take the initiative to say that they will no longer continue to be witnesses, and many others are waiting to be witnesses!

4.请拿掉你的偏见和错误认识,不是所有的中国人都是赌徒,更不能把投资BTS视为赌博。很多人特别是core团队、见证人和worker获取BTS都不需要花钱,但是中国社区的成员不是,他们是用自己的钱来投资。以后请不要再这样说。
Please take away your prejudice and misunderstanding. Not all Chinese are gamblers, and you can't consider investing in BTS as gambling. Many people, especially the core team, witnesses and workers, do not need to spend money to get BTS, but the members of the Chinese community are not, they are investing with their own money. Please don't say this again in the future.

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有人愿意帮他翻译这两份文档吗,他悬赏 7500 BTS。

I wish to request Chinese translation support for the following documents:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/BTS-CM/Hertz-Whitepaper/master/hertz_whitepaper.md (except the preface section, that's part of an old steem post)
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/BTS-CM/Norns/master/about.md

2 BTS per word sound alright? So approx 7500 BTS in total for the above two documents?

Regarding the Norns whitepaper, it references deities from Norse mythology using Wikipedia references, it'd be great if relevant articles within online Chinese encyclopedias could be referenced in their place if possible?

I'm looking for price feed publishers for the Norns & hertz:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27749.0;all
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=26013.msg334968

Thanks
Anyone interested in the translation?
Any update on translation? I could just use google & bing translate instead, that's good enough right?
I want to try to translate, but it is indeed a relatively large translation project.It takes  more time and effort.

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论坛非常棒!比现在这个使用起来好多了,移动端显示也更加人性化!

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General Discussion / Some questions
« on: October 21, 2019, 09:21:26 am »
1.bitshares的宣传和营销团队在哪里?是根本不存在,还是他们隐藏的太好,以致于所有人都找不到他们呢?
Where is the bitshares promotion and marketing team? Is it not there at all, or are they hidden so well that no one can find them?

2.为什么很多理事会成员和core团队成员并不持有BTS或者持有非常少的BTS?如果他们都不愿持有自己项目的代币,那如何让社区成员相信,他们只是为了套取worker工资,并没有为BTS变得更好而努力工作呢?
Why do many Members of the BTS Committee   and core team members do not hold BTS or hold very few BTS? If they are not willing to hold the tokens of their own projects, how can the community members believe that they are just trying to get the wages of the workers and not working hard to make the BTS better?

3.理事会成员、core团队成员、见证人以及worker发起人,这些人是BTS项目的雇员还是管理者?他们是否应该更好的服从社区的意愿,而不是为了私人利益阻挠改革和发展bitshares?
 Members of the BTS Committee , core team members, witnesses, and worker sponsors, are these employees or managers of BTS projects? Should they better obey the wishes of the community, rather than obstructing reform and development of bitshares for private gains?

4.什么是DPOS?社区成员和持票人是不是bitshares的老板?那么作为Bitshares人数最多最为庞大的社区,中国社区以及投入了巨大精力、金钱、时间的中国社区成员,是不是应该得到应有的权力和尊重?
What is DPOS? Are community members and ticket holders the boss of bitshares? So, as the largest and largest community of Bitshares, should the Chinese community and Chinese community members who have invested a lot of energy, money, and time deserve the power and respect they deserve?


谁来解答或者讨论下这些问题?
Who will answer or discuss these questions?

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General Discussion / Re: Committee Fund Operation Review
« on: October 21, 2019, 08:58:30 am »
so that means we need another BSIP to set the threshold feed price for eternity, or it can be increased but not be lowered?

0.202 bitCNY/BTS is cheap even when the market price is 0.19, we can buy at 0.22bitCNY/BTS when market price go to 0.22 without pay additional price , but I think it's not hard to tell which price is better.

Man, I really feel compassion for you. You have become an addict to gambling and now you are trying to gamble with committee's account, under the exact same strategy that got your ass burned. It doesn't matter at this moment if your strategy works or not. You have lost any sense of ethics or truthfulness.

it is just like in 1971, President Nikson announced to give up the peg of USD on GOLD.

it is irrelevant to ethics or thuthufulness, it is relevant to the demand of economy.

if you are not able to understand, I do not have time to explain more at this moment.

Mr. Liu Jialing, If you want to take the funds, please create worker on your own name so you can take full responsibility for actions with those funds. Leave the committee owned funds out of the pitch.

This was a friendly(soft) suggestion.

Chee®s
Mr. Digital Lucifer,If you are still stubbornly considering the bitcrab proposal is wrong, then investigate the community members' choices, hundreds of Chinese community members support bitcrab, and hundreds of millions of votes. Please respect the community, respect the votes, and respect those who work tirelessly for the development of BTS.
This was a friendly(soft) suggestion.
Digital Lucifer先生,如果您仍然顽固地认为Bitcrab提案是错误的,请调查社区成员的选择,数百名中国社区成员还有数亿票的票仓支持bitcrab。 请尊重社区,尊重选票,并尊重为BTS的发展做出不懈努力的人们。
这是一个友好的(软)建议。

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迫不及待想要参加了,交易大赛就是将散户聚成做市商的一个平台,肯定会很大程度激活内盘市场,增加深度,抓紧开始吧。能不能在期间,联系鼓鼓和BTSPP团队,在开始页面做一个简单的宣传推介。

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非常棒!

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已经翻译了吗?
有人愿意帮忙翻译这段吗?

Hello everyone,

Here's the latest status update for the Decentralized conference worker.

As most of you know, the Decentralized worker has been voted out for almost the last month. This, combined with the bear market has severely limited the worker's funding and if things remain that way, its effectiveness will be very limited minimising the value we can gain from the actual sponsorship payment (which has already been committed for the most part). Essentially we're co-presenting a conference and will possibly end up with little to no actual presence there. This will smear our public image once again.

So I would like BTS holders and proxies to reconsider their voting.

In order to recap, I will mention once again that this is no mere sponsorship but BitShares along with the University of Nicosia are presenting/offering this conference (the largest business-oriented blockchain conference in Europe and one of the biggest in the world) as co-organisers.

The sponsorship (apart from the actual conference) will provide us with a wealth of marketable information such as:

- 1-year's membership in the IFF (more details here: https://www.unic.ac.cy/iff/ + https://github.com/clockworkgr/worker-proposals/blob/master/20190313%20-%20IFF%20Presentation.pdf )
- Ability to pay University of Nicosia courses tuition fees in BTS/bitUSD/bitEUR
- Dr. Philip Brown's presentation of academic research into bitAssets (which has been accepted for the Academic Track of the conference)

The BitShares and University of Nicosia powered conference will also be sponsored by the government of Canada, Whizgrid, Eurobank, OByte, Consensys, Block.co , blockchain.com and many many others.

Confirmed speakers include Dr. Adam Back (Blockstream CEO), Bill Barhydt (Abra CEO), Perianne Boring (Founder of Chamber of Digital Commerce), Ian Grigg (ex-R3 and EOS/block.one), Dr. Garrick Hileman (Blockchain - Head of Research), Marta Piekarska (Head of Ecosystem - Hyperledger), Tone Vays + individuals from MakerDAO, Consensys, Grant Thornton, Eurobank, Corda/R3, IEEE,  Trezor, the European Commission, Parity, UNICEF, Accenture and many european universities and governments.

Expected attendance is >2000 and judging by last year, a large percentage of attendees are businesses looking to adopt and integrate blockchain technology as well as European public officials.

I will once again express my belief that this is an amazing opportunity for BitShares to regain some of the spotlight as an actively maintained and progressing platform ideal for business integrations and can be heavily marketed and promoted.

This is also the reason I believe we must have a strong business, technology and community presence there in order to gain the most value from the worker. Remember this is no ordinary sponsorship/attendance where a handful of people would be enough but to the public eye it is a conference CO-ORGANISED by BitShares and as such it needs representatives from the whole ecosystem.

Depending on funding, the tentative speakers representing BitShares and businesses building on BitShares are:

Ryan R. Fox (Core Team)
OpenLedger
BitSpark
Everprove
1000 cities/100 cities project (Guoan)

Please vote and ensure the sponsorship is a success and we can get the necessary people there to promote BitShares.

Thank you.

Alex

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cn-vote airdrop is coming!Let community members make history!
clockworker,People like you who don't hold BTS are not worthy of community members' trust.


Wtf?
you said that you are only holding bts 40k BTS

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: cn-vote积分公告
« on: August 30, 2019, 07:30:33 am »
这积分不按照币龄来投吗?
  币龄比较难计算吧,不定期随机快照还是可以的

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Stop swindling funds from the pool of funds and squander BTS resources.

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cn-vote airdrop is coming!Let community members make history!
clockworker,People like you who don't hold BTS are not worthy of community members' trust.

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: Calling all BitShares-based businesses.
« on: August 28, 2019, 09:04:42 am »
帮Clockwork大神翻译一下:

作为去中心化会议(Decentralized Conference)合作伙伴关系(https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28557.0)的一部分,我们在会议上获得了4位发言人和一个主讲人位置。

根据工人提案中描述的计划,4位发言人将发表基于比特股的业务。

到目前为止,三位发言人是OpenLedger,Everprove和BitSpark,我希望第四位发言人将来自于中文社区 / 中国的社区。 我们将为发言人提供2人参加会议的航班和住宿,并提供20分钟的演讲时间,以及在比特股展位和会议资料中提供营销机会。

有关会议的更多信息,请访问:https://www.decentralized.com/agenda-2019/

欢迎任何建议。

附: 如果有人能将上述内容翻译成中文,那就太棒了。
感谢bangzi翻译,感谢Clockwork披露

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 一个基于GDEX.BTC抵押的智能货币?
« on: August 28, 2019, 08:59:33 am »
白名单怎么确定呢,需要竞选吗

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General Discussion / Re: Huge spending will lead to the collapse of BTS
« on: August 27, 2019, 09:44:07 am »
Beos for many great project budget voted, but without the largest contribution to the voting BTS + purse, Beos option is really in BTS, better, or in order to maximize their own interests? I can't understand, in fact, Beos are doing the very harmful for BTS community!

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