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General Discussion / Re: Show something good on the front page
« on: December 11, 2015, 06:56:46 pm »
[member=5529]speedy[/member], you are comparing different pages, your screenshot depictures https://bitshares.org/wallet , not https://bitshares.org/
here is poloniex analog: https://poloniex.com/signup

I am comparing the page that is 1 easy click away from the poloniex.com frontpage, vs the page that I get frustratingly redirected to after 3 clicks on https://bitshares.openledger.info (and https://bitshares.org/wallet), when I attempt to look at the markets without an account.

You get the problem right? How is BitShares supposed to spread virally if its impossible for non-registered users to find out that there is even trading activity going on?

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General Discussion / Show something good on the front page
« on: December 11, 2015, 06:26:50 pm »
This is what happens when you dont have an account on Poloniex:


And this is what happens when you dont have an account on Openledger:


99% of visitors get bored within 3 seconds of your website and will move onto something else unless there is something that grabs them.

Visitors want to see a real exchange with activity first, then they will register and maybe deposit into it. I havent shared a link to BitShares to anyone in over a year. The last time I did I was buried as an altcoin spammer, and that would still happen if I shared this today. It needs to look less like a wallet and more like a real exchange.

Just my opinion. If it changes then I might actually start sharing links to BitShares again.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares UI 2.0.151202 released
« on: December 06, 2015, 10:30:26 pm »
Easy suggestions:

-Switch the default chart interval to 1 day - those 1h periods of no trading activity look embarrassing.
-In the All Markets list, sort by the Volume column by default. Polo does this.

Its all about giving the impression of an active exchange where users feel its worth spending their time.

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General Discussion / Re: Help me Identify the Top 10 most harmful laws!
« on: December 05, 2015, 01:43:54 am »
-Laws that steal 50% of my income to pay for slobs living on benefits, often for multiple generations.

-Laws that use tax payer money to pump up the housing market:
http://www.helptobuy.gov.uk/help-to-buy-isa/how-does-it-work

-The capital gains tax, so that if you try to escape from fiat slavery they can still punish you.

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You guys are right coercion is dumb, and will just hurt adoption. Was just trying to think of shortcuts as usual...

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Coercing people into doing anything is never a good idea, even if the intentions are good. We already solved this when the fee requiring people to vote constantly was removed (dunno if that 'functionality' was ever on)

Given how much BitShares gets screwed by centralized exchanges, I think its time to do a bit of coercion. If BitShares was a company run by Trump, he would be thinking of things like this.

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Right now there is 500 million BTS just sitting on centralized exchanges, not available to pay any fees to the network, just sitting there ready to drag the price down.

So why dont we require shareholders to fulfill responsibilities to support the network? The point being to gradually force BTS off centralized exchanges and into accounts that are active on the DeX. Centralized exchanges that earn huge fees from their users trading BTS back and forth will find that they have to pay for that privilege.

This is how to do it:

Every account (possibly with a minimum amount of 1millioin BTS) is required to perform market making activity on BTS/USD (we can work out the details) using at least 1% of the account's balance of BTS, every single calendar month. All applicable accounts that dont do this pay 5% of their BTS as a penalty. An example criteria of market making is to place an order within 10% of the price feed for a minimum amount of time.

Again, all details subject to discussion.

The only problem with this idea is that the centralized exchanges wont like this and might coordinate their stake to vote themselves onto the committee and disable this feature. But they are still a minority even if they all vote together, and if the community votes for this then we take back control of BitShares into the hands of the real supporters that use the DeX. And we can start earning millions of BTS of in fees.

This idea has some characteristics as the old 5% inactivity fee that BM floated ages ago. Im ready to do market making with 1% of my stake if required by the network.

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Openledger / Re: October start-up OpenLedger just doubled it's profits!
« on: November 29, 2015, 01:04:58 pm »
Doubled from what?

Does the wallet show how much referral income Openledger has made?

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General Discussion / Re: UI Progress
« on: November 28, 2015, 05:02:52 pm »
Sounds like we are basically all in agreement on this - have a sticky setting to disable it. Does anyone know if there is any progress on a trollbox?

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General Discussion / Re: UI Progress
« on: November 28, 2015, 03:34:46 pm »
Troll box? A chat interface is different than a troll box, if what I've seen elsewhere is a troll box.

I hate the damned things, they just provide a lot of noise and nonsense to distract what I'm there for. If people more or less stayed on point like the chat window in mumble I could see it possibly being useful. In my experience it's 50 zillion convos between separate groups of people and hard to track a single group / convo.

If you know what the old school telephone party line was, a troll box is like that but with many different conversations occurring in real time simultaneously. It would be like a mumble session where fuzzy is talking with BM on one topic, I am talking with Stan on a different topic, DataSecurityNode is talking with kencode on yet another, all at the same time in real time. A real audio mess. That's how I feel a troll box is in text.

I'm OK with adding one so long as it isn't visible by default. It would be a terrible I/F for support. Private chat on the other hand would be perfect.

You are really surprised? Everyone else wants this yesterday. No one is forcing you use a trollbox/chat interface, you are free to minimize it on Poloniex.

I just glanced at their one and theyre talking about wallets and altcoins - really offtopic.

Openledger looks dead and Poloniex looks alive with activity, partly because they show their trollbox by default.

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Technical Support / Re: updated latest git pull -- local web wallet fail
« on: November 26, 2015, 11:33:50 pm »
the bitshares branch?  i was using the 2.0.151125 branch from bitshares-2-ui git repository.

Yes I couldnt compile that so I switched to the bitshares branch, which is one commit ahead of that. It has a bugfix for the new release.
Code: [Select]
git checkout bitshares
gitk --all # To see what I mean

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Technical Support / Re: updated latest git pull -- local web wallet fail
« on: November 26, 2015, 10:48:04 pm »
What branch are you on? I meant the "bitshares" branch.

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Technical Support / Re: updated latest git pull -- local web wallet fail
« on: November 26, 2015, 10:02:05 pm »
I had the same problem I think. Checkout the BitShares branch instead, it has a fix that apparently is for this new release. I was then able to compile and run.

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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares Graphene-ui 2.0.151125 released
« on: November 26, 2015, 09:59:32 pm »
Btw I had to checkout the BitShares branch, which is 1 commit ahead of this new release, yet is titled:

Quote
a couple of small fixes before 2.0.151125 release

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General Discussion / Re: BitUSD and BitCNY at poloniex!!!
« on: November 25, 2015, 09:51:25 am »
Maybe we could get a fee discount for running market maker bots on that market?

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