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3601
Democracy doesn't mean that majoraty should be able to rob minority. Not only CLI but also other GUI users (for example moonstone) would have to pay the fee. Graphene GUI is not and should not be the only GUI of BTS.

3602
中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTS2.0升级/注册/交易指南
« on: December 25, 2015, 06:52:10 pm »
我说下我的具体问题吧

1、按照正常方式导出私钥并升级到2.0
2、假设我实际有效余额地址包含1.2.3.4.5.6.7,共计100万币
3、10月13号导出的私钥文件里却只包含了1.2.3.4.5(自己不可能知道的)
4、导入2.0领取发现只有80万币,另外丢了20万
5、重新进入BTS 0.9.3C扫描所有记录再次导出私钥文件.json
6、用新文件导入2.0发现确实还有6.7地址的20万币余额
7、领取余额,显示“你已经领取过”

我觉得是之前领取过的(1.2.3.4.5地址)被BTS2.0判断为已经领取过了,所以不让我领取(1.2.3.4.5.6.7地址)里的余额
所以,我要想办法把那20万未领取的地址6.7单独分出来试试

这个问题估计会有非常多的人遇到,但不一定都能发现自己少币少资产了
因为我在10.13号拍照之前几个小时,已经非常小心的取消了所有挂单,并满怀信心的scan过一次才导出的key.json
当初最正确的姿势其实应该是:wallet_scan_transaction

这当真是:
熊哥自以为很屌
智力超群乱冒泡
棋差一招急得跳
满盘皆输拽个毛
 BM 牛逼技术好
防不胜防币难找
哪个好人帮个忙
志玲姐也夸你高,啊夸你高 +5% +5% +5%

你如果知道哪个地址没有领过,就用这个命令 "wallet_dump_private_key 地址公钥" 可以拿到私钥,然后新建个钱包单独导入。

如果想在几万个key里面找没有领过的key,怕是有点麻烦。先用巨蟹前面发的帖子里面的方法过滤一遍,然后再找。

实在不行的话,把钱包发给我,我帮您试试看?

3603
General Discussion / Re: Cryptofresh Block Explorer + MUSE now available
« on: December 25, 2015, 06:41:56 pm »
Great service, is it possible for you to make  url addresses in asset infos  clickable ?
If you're using Chrome, it's possible to select the url, then right click, then click "go to".

3605
General Discussion / Re: Cryptofresh Block Explorer + MUSE now available
« on: December 25, 2015, 04:18:22 pm »
@roadscape The main page of http://cryptofresh.com/ stopped syncing.
Latest transaction displayed on the page is 6 hours ago.
"Recent blocks" stopped at 2,084,450.
"BitShares Blockchain Status" is correct though.

3606
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Questions about the refund400k worker proposal
« on: December 25, 2015, 04:06:23 pm »
Glad to see that those refund/burn workers have been created and waiting for approval. Great thanks to @xeroc.
http://cryptofresh.com/p/1.10.45

3607
The bytemaster account has 0 bts in it.  The angel account is also not all Bm.  So 10% is mostly from others voting to follow Bm. Even with all of that he still controls less than 50% of active voting stake.
That says everything. No matter what BM says or does, those people just agree. It's even worse than BM owns all the stakes.
On the opposite, it's likely that most people who don't agree with BM have voted with their feet.

3608
OK now that this [explicit] is set in stone, I have nothing more I can do but open a poll:

what will be the average market cap loss for BTS between now and the time the stealth is out [my guess is about April].


It is ridiculous but I do think you guys are willingly taking a 2.5 to more likely 4 mil USD market cap hit, so CNX can cash 45K immediately, and onceaponaprivacydream can make this 45K suicidal investment.[the one he brakes even in about 3-5 years?]

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weighted market cap per CMC
Dec 13 '15 - 9,602,798
till 7 days before the stealth release is announced.

Tony, you are extremely short sighted.  How much of a market cap hit would BTS take if we weren't working on BTS at all?  How much of a hit would it take if we diluted BTS by 30K per month to fund features?

With the current BTS feature , it's not really hard to maintain a marketcap lower than Dogecoin with zero features .
If you stop working now , and if BTS going lower , then I think people will have no doubt that BTS is indeed centralized and worthless than Dogecoin .

You have 100X the feature than what Dogecoin has already . If BTS is not going anywhere , it's not because lack of some feature . 

The only reason that will affect BTS marketcap after you stop working on it is because it's not finished/centralized/rely on people to keep it running just like a manual device/it may render useless if BM on a boat trip.....And one day , if BM changed his mind about working on BTS because of(but not limited to) change of personality/political believes/different view of the world /suddenly hate C++ and love Java/suddenly love painting than programming/.......   , then all of their investment will go to zero .....In either case , it's not really comforting for people to use it regardless of how many new features is being developed .

I think you are giving cnx and bm too much credit as far as influence goes. From what I've seen they own less than 10% of bts.  And I don't think bts would go to zero if they quit working on the project.  It's just code, its mit licensed, and any programmer could come in and start working on it.
According to http://cryptofresh.com/ballots,
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bytemaster   11 / 25 / 3   11   4.99%
angel   11 / 30 / 7   5   4.61%
...
Active voting stake: 21.0%
A 10% voting power (and keeps raising) is somewhat of "dictatorship" right now.

3609
OK now that this [explicit] is set in stone, I have nothing more I can do but open a poll:

what will be the average market cap loss for BTS between now and the time the stealth is out [my guess is about April].


It is ridiculous but I do think you guys are willingly taking a 2.5 to more likely 4 mil USD market cap hit, so CNX can cash 45K immediately, and onceaponaprivacydream can make this 45K suicidal investment.[the one he brakes even in about 3-5 years?]

---------
weighted market cap per CMC
Dec 13 '15 - 9,602,798
till 7 days before the stealth release is announced.

Tony, you are extremely short sighted.  How much of a market cap hit would BTS take if we weren't working on BTS at all?  How much of a hit would it take if we diluted BTS by 30K per month to fund features?

With the current BTS feature , it's not really hard to maintain a marketcap lower than Dogecoin with zero features .
If you stop working now , and if BTS going lower , then I think people will have no doubt that BTS is indeed centralized and worthless than Dogecoin .

You have 100X the feature than what Dogecoin has already . If BTS is not going anywhere , it's not because lack of some feature . 

The only reason that will affect BTS marketcap after you stop working on it is because it's not finished/centralized/rely on people to keep it running just like a manual device/it may render useless if BM on a boat trip.....And one day , if BM changed his mind about working on BTS because of(but not limited to) change of personality/political believes/different view of the world /suddenly hate C++ and love Java/suddenly love painting than programming/.......   , then all of their investment will go to zero .....In either case , it's not really comforting for people to use it regardless of how many new features is being developed .

I think you are giving cnx and bm too much credit as far as influence goes. From what I've seen they own less than 10% of bts.  And I don't think bts would go to zero if they quit working on the project.  It's just code, its mit licensed, and any programmer could come in and start working on it.
Glad to see.. but where is this "any programmer"? It's claimed by a lot of people on this forum that only code written by or reviewed by CNX is acceptable.

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: BTS2.0升级/注册/交易指南
« on: December 25, 2015, 02:44:37 pm »
辛苦了  +5%

3611
General Discussion / Re: Whats going on with Coinmarketcap ?
« on: December 25, 2015, 12:58:35 pm »
Thanks for the explaination. Looks like a happy end.

3612


4.   Fees shall be automatically distributed by the blockchain to the following accounts:
        o   20% to the BitShares network.
        o   20% to a Maintenance Account.
        o   60% to holder(s) of the Privacy Mode Fees accumulation account


what is the fee if using STEALTH transfer by CLI wallet ?
I think it must same as normal ?

I  don`t think  it is a priority feature , but I cannot oppose this feature because block chain can contain many things ,
but I oppose change the fee if using  STEALTH transfer by CLI wallet
If you have some stakes,  vote with them. Else your opinion won't be taken into consideration.

3613
General Discussion / Re: POLL: Why are you still hodling BTS?
« on: December 25, 2015, 11:10:53 am »
Tech is the best IMO, but PR is very bad... Why doesn't BM travel the US and the world to spread the words of BitShares? :)
Merry Christmas!


Stan did a great job in China :).
So result in a pump from China? Or a new startup company based on bts System come from China?

3614
but as you can also see under openledger-reg account we have untill now spent 478 000 bts on users signing up which is not being deducted as we want everyboy to have the option to enjoy taking part either in parts or in full when buyback kicks in.

https://bitshares.openledger.info/?r=openledger#/account/openledger-reg/member-stats/


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Lifetime fees paid   484,000 BTS
Voting weight   17,560 BTS
Cashback   90d - 724,000 / 1,120,000 BTS
It's good to see that you've earned more BTS than you've paid.

3615
Technical Support / Re: Paying network fee via UIA or BTS
« on: December 24, 2015, 06:19:08 pm »
The features is there already .. but only available to the blockchain level. It's not yet exposed to the end-user in the GUI

Devs are working on it:
https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/356

This is in regards to issue #356.
I see that this function is now implemented on GUI level, but only for fee transfers.
Is there a plan to allow user to select the method of payment for network fees for trading (placing limit orders)?

There have been discussions about how to best do it. We don't want to make trading too difficult for people .. hence this will probably be an "advanced" setting ..
But its on the list of things to do!

Thanks for letting me know that BROWNIE.PTS was created during BitShares 1. No wonder I cannot configure it the same way on BitShares 2.

Okay, so since core exchange rate cannot be set to zero for assets created in BitShares 2.0, I guess I have to wait for this "advanced" setting to be implemented in the future. Hopefully.
FYI it's already possible to set fees in BTS or UIA while transferring / trading with the latest GUI.
//Edit: by now it will pay fee in BTS while trading if fee pool is insufficient. See https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/628

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