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中文(Chinese) / Re: 一个基于GDEX.BTC抵押的智能货币?
« on: September 04, 2019, 04:49:20 pm »
1)乐观其成,能增加bts平台的交易量都是好事。

2)可以吸引持有btc的新韭菜到内场玩。

3)GDEX.BTC  , 如何防止交易所无中生有GDEX.BTC ?公布btc钱包地址?

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中文(Chinese) / Re: Calling all BitShares-based businesses.
« on: September 03, 2019, 08:11:03 am »
see my response above
48h passed.


@Cn-Vote

Please find a consensus on it as i still see no active communitcation.

Should there be no active progress in next 24h i will remove my vote from refund400k

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中文(Chinese) / Re: Calling all BitShares-based businesses.
« on: September 02, 2019, 02:49:57 am »
尊敬的Alex先生,

首先感谢你重新削减了会议开支。不出我所料,bts的价格已经从上次我给你回信的4美分跌到接近3美分。 我相信即使按照你新预算16万美元的开支,在当前的市场情况下,也足以将bts价格推向2美分。

我个人和社区部分成员有如下的几个意见,想和你探讨一下:

1)社区已经支持了50%以上的希腊会议经费。剩余部分是否可以由参加会议的人员自己垫付?
2)个人垫付的部分由社区发行UIA资产(marketing fund)相应予以补偿,这些资产可以流通,社区在适当的时候予以回购并赋予该资产持有者相应的荣誉。
3)24个参会者的数目应该至少削减到15个。

谢谢
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Thanks to lin5464 for the translation.

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In light of recent discussions about worker funding and the voting shift with refund 400k worker, and considering a down payment and commitment has been made for the sponsorship I want to make the following update and amendments to the worker budget to ensure continued funding so that the sponsorship fee will not be money down the drain.

鉴于最近对工人提案注资的讨论以及投票转移到refund 400k提案,考虑到对去中心化峰会已作出的承诺和已支付的订金,为了确保本提案能持续获得注资以及赞助费不被白白浪费掉,我想对此提案预算作出以下更新和修订。

For tax purposes, payment of the sponsorship costs was handed over to the BBF. This saves us the VAT calculated in the original worker while incurring a 5% escrow cost, bringing the total sponsorship cost to  116.5k instead of 135.5 for a saving of 19k USD.

出于税务上的考虑,赞助费用的款项已交由BBF托管。这虽然增加了5%的托管手续费,但节省了原提案中需要缴纳的增值税,此举使得赞助费从135.5k美元减少到116.5k美元,省下了19k美元。

Additionally at least 4 of the core team members who will be attending will have their travel/accommodation covered by the Core Team worker's existing conference budget for a minimum savings of another 8k USD.

此外,参加峰会的核心团队成员中至少有4人的差旅/住宿费将由核心团队现有的提案会议预算支付,最低可节省8k美元。

Furthermore I will attempt to ensure that the average per person accommodation and travel cost for the remaining 20 slots does not exceed 1.5k  for a minimum savings of 10k USD.

而且我将努力确保其余20个名额的人均住宿费和差费不超过1.5k美元,最低节省10k美元。

Finally, I will negotiate the promotional material production (video, leaflets etc.) down to 5k USD for another 2k savings and cut the unexpected expenses buffer to just 500$ for another 1k USD saved.

最后,我会协商将宣传材料的制作费用(视频、传单等)减少到5000美元以节省2000美元,并将不可预见费用削减到500美元以节省1000美元。

This brings the total MAXIMUM cost of the worker down to 160k USD which is a 20% decrease from the original plan.

这使得此提案的最高预算成本下降到16万美元,比原计划减少了20%。

I hope this will be better suited to the community and people will reevaluate their voting slates.

希望这将更符合社区的期望,愿社区成员能重新评估你们的投票。

Thank you,

谢谢!

Alex

亚历克斯

P.S. I should point out that this (like last year's) worker has NO management fee and I get NO reimbursement of any kind for planning/organising it apart from entry to the event. I'm working on it simply because I truly believe it will be beneficial to the platform.

附注:我要指出的是, (和去年一样)此提案没有管理费,除了参加活动外,我没有获得任何形式的计划/组织回扣。我之所以致力于此只是因为我真心相信这将有益于平台。

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中文(Chinese) / Re: Calling all BitShares-based businesses.
« on: August 28, 2019, 03:38:39 pm »
clockwork 先生, 谢谢您的回复,

我相信这个会议很重要,但您要考虑目前社区的经费紧张状况和bts币价已经低于4美分,马上就要到3美分。我不知道您有没有持有1百万以上的bts? 如果你持有大量的bts您就能理解中文社区bts持有者的心情。
这个会议你们会 造成600万bts的抛售。这足以将bts的价格降到2美分,并造成市场的恐慌。 请您仔细考虑这个因素。

中文社区的大部分持币者的意见是,希望您能让参会者自己支付差旅费,我们提供免费门票已经让社区举步维艰了。

我认为取个折中方案,最多只能为10个核心人员提供差旅费,这样可以减少3万美元的抛售压力。当然您也可以不顾中文社区的意见,决定权在你。it would be very grateful if you can nice to the popular will of our community.

thanks

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The reason for 25 people is because there were 25 free attendance tickets (each costing 450Euro) included in the entire partnership package. Seeing as this is not just "attending" a conference but co-presenting/partnering and with the best (double) booth in the conference, I believe we need as big a team as possible to push the entire BitShares ecosystem and network with other people/businesses attending. Having attended and organised the sponsorship last year as well, I can tell you that the networking factor alone (regardless of speaking slot) is a big deal and there's loads of interesting discussions and contacts taking place.

so
1.) The worker doesn't HAVE to but then I doubt we would get  the kind of attendance we need. So covering all is a way to make sure we have a large and varied team. Which is why it was mentioned from the beginning.
2.) As mentioned in the original proposal, it will be a mix of worker representatives, "regional" representatives suggested by the community, large proxies, committee members etc. as schedule permits. Finalising the list is the next step after finalising the speaker slots.
3.) See my reasoning above. Might be reduced, depending on interest and feedback but personally would rather not.

I'll once again point out that the worker budget is a MAXIMUM (i.e. UP TO that amount). All unused funds will be returned to the chain. I know for a fact that flights/ and accommodation will end up being less than 2k pp. That was just set as a maximum limit.

clockwork 先生,

有几个问题我希望你能给中文社区答复:

1)在目前bts价格如此低迷,社区经费紧张的情况下,您认为一定要为25个参会者全部提供机票和食宿吗? 你能不能说明一下这样做的理由? 大部分国际会议都是都是只给演讲者提供差旅费的。
“The worker is planned for 25 people to attend. 4 businesses * 2 each + me + ryan is 10. There is another 15 people remaining to be invited which will include panelists + community reps.”

2)能否把这25个参会者的个人简介和参会需要完成的任务向社区公布,以便大家监督。

3)能否考虑减少参会的人数?真的需要这么多人到会议上去吗?

谢谢! Thanks in advance

twitter

What about a position for the Russian community? For example, the dexgames platform (https://dexgames.net) looks quite good.

如果给俄罗斯社区一个机会怎么样?比如 dexgames 游戏平台看起来就很不错 (https://dexgame.net)。

For the CN community, I think the best choice is among GDEX, MagicWallet and 100-city-chain. Another project is btspp which has a potential in the future, but I think it's not good enough especially as a "business" right now.

中国社区的话,我觉得最合适的是 GDEX 、鼓鼓钱包、百城百店项目。
btspp 有前景,但目前主要还是基础钱包功能,我觉得不太合适作为 business 来讲。

Russian community reps will definitely be invited. However the speaker slots are 4 with only the 4th one left open at the moment and I'd really like a CN team to fill it. Magic wallet is also my preference but I wanted to get other suggestions.

We also get a 1hr long panel discussion to organise. This could be used to get exposure to other bitshares businesses/communities. I plan to ask for input/feedback on this once i've finalised teh 4 speaker slots.

The worker is planned for 25 people to attend. 4 businesses * 2 each + me + ryan is 10. There is another 15 people remaining to be invited which will include panelists + community reps. One step at a time



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中文(Chinese) / Re: Calling all BitShares-based businesses.
« on: August 28, 2019, 02:43:43 pm »
clockwork 先生,

有几个问题我希望你能给中文社区答复:

1)在目前bts价格如此低迷,社区经费紧张的情况下,您认为一定要为25个参会者全部提供机票和食宿吗? 你能不能说明一下这样做的理由? 大部分国际会议都是都是只给演讲者提供差旅费的。
“The worker is planned for 25 people to attend. 4 businesses * 2 each + me + ryan is 10. There is another 15 people remaining to be invited which will include panelists + community reps.”

2)能否把这25个参会者的个人简介和参会需要完成的任务向社区公布,以便大家监督。

3)能否考虑减少参会的人数?真的需要这么多人到会议上去吗?

谢谢! Thanks in advance

twitter

What about a position for the Russian community? For example, the dexgames platform (https://dexgames.net) looks quite good.

如果给俄罗斯社区一个机会怎么样?比如 dexgames 游戏平台看起来就很不错 (https://dexgame.net)。

For the CN community, I think the best choice is among GDEX, MagicWallet and 100-city-chain. Another project is btspp which has a potential in the future, but I think it's not good enough especially as a "business" right now.

中国社区的话,我觉得最合适的是 GDEX 、鼓鼓钱包、百城百店项目。
btspp 有前景,但目前主要还是基础钱包功能,我觉得不太合适作为 business 来讲。

Russian community reps will definitely be invited. However the speaker slots are 4 with only the 4th one left open at the moment and I'd really like a CN team to fill it. Magic wallet is also my preference but I wanted to get other suggestions.

We also get a 1hr long panel discussion to organise. This could be used to get exposure to other bitshares businesses/communities. I plan to ask for input/feedback on this once i've finalised teh 4 speaker slots.

The worker is planned for 25 people to attend. 4 businesses * 2 each + me + ryan is 10. There is another 15 people remaining to be invited which will include panelists + community reps. One step at a time

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Hi Dr. brown,

i used to play with anytime algorithm for my graduate research in boston about 15 years ago. My supervisor Dr. eugene Eberbach told me my research was for  academic only . there were not  robotics that can use our research since none know where AI will go .  there will be the same situation you are facing as i faced  10 years ago in your upcoming bts research project.  My advice is  you can keep on taking this project and try to seeking fund form other source due to you won't be able to do any real help to  bts system and more importantly (lol) bts'e price is at less than 3 cent.  Bts system won't have enough money for non-profit research ......

Best regards

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I am pro research (0.5 year), but why should we finance a student and travel costs?

The worker already has 15k $ and it is unclear, which benefits the community gets from the worker.

One solution is here with the settlement fund: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/182
(Time to respond to my BSIP)
 
The main problem BTS has, is the deficit spending by overpriced workers, which dump BTS and don't bring any real value to the ecosystem.

Bench, maybe your mind is made up and an explanation wouldn't change it, but here you go:

In the US university system, practically all research is done by advanced PhD students; those students are directed by professors and paid a small stipend by external funding sources. The research is the student.

I wrote the Decentralized 2019 paper on my own time because I think the BitAsset problem is a very interesting one and I was making a good-faith effort to launch the project before funding arrived. Unfortunately, my own time is very limited, and unless an external funding source "buys" some of my official University time, I can't devote the many many hours that it will take to do justice to this problem. This is where the student comes in: he will spend the bulk of the time on the project, and he must be the first one to get paid -- I won't take a cent for myself from this worker unless he is funded full-time. Half-time funding isn't really appropriate for a PhD student.

To put this another way: your BSIP deserves more than my quick comments, but my in-depth comments will take time. Nonetheless, give me a few minutes and I will go write some quick comments on your BSIP.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker] Integration of BTS with Wirex
« on: August 16, 2019, 09:40:33 am »
it is a good start. I think you have little PM experience . it would be nice if you can manage Wirex application tasks by using ms-project or some office tools.  it would be very nice of you if you can provide all yours tasks (with time spend) in a  list by time order.
 :)

Update on Wirex:


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As of today, we have a good working relationship with Wirex. After our
initial application it took longer than expected on their side to
formally process, as they where themselves fully occupied with their
intended large expansion in South East Asia (see https://wirexapp.com).

The application was judged positive and resulted in a massive document
for the official on-boarding. This involves; legal proof of all
connected entities and persons: Me, the Bitshares Blockchain Foundation,
Blockchain Projects BV, the contracts involved in between, tax filings
and legislative issues on all, situations and facts around websites
involved in BTS, their contracts with parties involved, responsible
roles, Ultimate Beneficiaries of them all, involved trading exchanges on
BTS and much, much more.

This is serious preparation work to get it all complete prior to sending
to the lawyers. We try to be as complete and effective as possible
before their UK and German lawyers go over all the information.

Please bear in mind this is not a listing on an exchange. It is a debit
card. This involves high regulatory demand all over the world. Which I
personally not only understand, but am very much in favour of. It adds
to the BTS reputation to handle and get through such a procedure, even
though it is a decentralized situation in nature.

The availability of Wirex in Africa and the soon to be available Sout
East Asian region opens up many business opportunities for BTS, BitCNY
and new businesses ontop of the BitShares Blockchain in a natural
organic way. Furthermore, personally, I am looking forward to entering
into the mail blasts Wirex does to its customers on weekly basis. That
outreach alone is marketing for BTS we otherwise never would be able to
afford.

In short, even during the holidays, we are at it. But this not a small
“thingy “ to be dealt with in an email or two or a simple doc we can
sign and be done with. It is heavy due diligence, not alone on us, but
all we are involved with. We are confident we will complete it all. It
is just work to be handled.

Hope this clarifies the duration of the process!

Best Regards, Annemieke

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中文(Chinese) / Re: 关于worker
« on: July 30, 2019, 12:40:19 am »
如果有兴趣就成立一个worker月评会,设计一个表格,对worker的工作做一个用户直观评价

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1)BEOS开始交易,交易量已经连续2天占据内场第2位仅次于bitcny,日交易量在 26万到30万bts
2)已经开通3个交易对

https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/market/BEOS_CNY

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/BEOS_USD

https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/market/BEOS_BTSBTS

3)BEOS注册在美国的犹他州
犹他州的加密货币交易所和通证发行者免受货币传输法律的约束
https://legiscan.com/UT/text/SB0213/id/1947341
https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title7/Chapter25/C7-25_2015051220150512.pdf


在犹他州,s(BEOS)可以帮你保存虚拟财产,并帮助你交易(利用beos)而不受美国洗钱法制约 (还需要确认???)

脑洞大开一下。。。就是今后beos可以帮你把黑钱(虚拟)合法地保存并交易,类似现实世界的瑞士银行的功能


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中文(Chinese) / Re: 热烈祝贺BTS市值排名再创新高
« on: July 05, 2019, 04:31:56 am »
太悲观了,今年应该能在2美元以上。 架不住dex越来越得人心

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9800美元的大饼,竟然守不住0.4元人民币的BTS,叫人如何活啊!

这能怪大饼吗?能怪大行情不好吗? 不,这怪BTS。这种问题,这种机制,让持币者看不到希望,然后只有下跌归零的路上了。能选择的币太多了,再也没有人敢选择买它了。
有个大户压了个27000000bts的黄单,在收低价筹码。

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这个bitcny应该暂时停止使用。

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中文(Chinese) / Re: cn-vote投票公示
« on: May 21, 2019, 03:01:24 am »
老外的人工贵,老外的提案都很贵,还是要发展中国团队啊

请巨蟹把机器人贡献出来
巨蟹那个本来就在github上开源的,猴哥那个也在github上开源的。
有具体网址吗? 猴子的那个上次我查的时候只有前端?

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