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BTS China Association(BCA)
Announcement on Forking New Chain NBS (new bitshares)

Due to the BTS4.0 version upgrade, one core BitShares developer (hired via DPOS onchain consensus) tampered the voting system code without voting by the community, which caused huge controversy in the community. Although BCA and all parties in the community have made a lot of hard work in the past month, so far the incident has not yet formed an acceptable solution for all parties.


In order to adhere to the DPOS consensus and maintain DEFI credit, while protecting the interests of investors and avoiding impacts on the stability of the existing BTS network,  after discussion and voting by all members of BCA,BCA decided to fork BTS.  The fork will be executed at 21:55 on September 10, 2020 Beijing time (CST). The new coin symbol is "NBS" and come with a full name as "New BitShares".

As the first decentralized DEFI financial project and the first decentralized exchange ,which developed by Daniel Larimer (BM), BitShares does for business what bitcoin did for money by utilizing distributed consensus technology to create companies that are inherently global, transparent, trustworthy, efficient and most importantly profitable.  In our view, the main problem BitShares facing is the inefficient governance of the BTS committee , which makes it unable to adapt to the changing market.  NBS (new bitshares)led by BCA, will inherit all the technical advantages of BTS, completely get rid of the problem of unsmooth internal management of BTS, and truly promote the application of BTS technology in real world.

(https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-larimer-0a367089/)


NBS will always comply with the DPOS consensus. This fork will only reverse the tampering functions that have not been approved by DPOS, and the rest of the functions of BTS4.0 will continue to be used.

The specific allocation rules of NBS are as follows:

1. Before the execution of the fork, all non-exchange accounts that voted for BCA will receive a 1:1 airdrop.

2. Before the execution of the fork, the exchange that announced that they support airdrops and support the listing of NBS trading pairs will receive 1:1 airdrops.

3. Before the execution of the fork, for exchange that only support airdrops (candy), airdrops will be based on a 10:1 ratio.

4. The snapshot on BTS chain shall be executed at 21:55 on September 10, 2020, Beijing time. After the data are sorted out, airdrops shall be issued to all the above accounts. Please make a snapshot of each exchange at the same time to facilitate the distribution of NBS.

5. Accounts holding CNVOTE  can be exchanged for NBS at a 4:1 conversion ratio, which is valid forever. With a total of 1.2 billion CNVOTE, we will establish a total of 300 million NBS exchange accounts on the NBS chain. The CNVOTE used to redeem NBS will be destroyed. Other relevant policies for CNVOTE remain unchanged, and monthly airdrops and repurchases will continue as usual.

6. Cross-chain plan: BCA will issue a total of 500 million NEWBS tokens on the BTS network as a cross-chain asset between the NBS network and the BTS network. The NEWBS asset issued on the BTS network and the core asset NBS on the NBS network can be swapped 1:1 across the chain, which is permanently valid.

7. Super Candy Plan: From September 10th to December 31st, 2020 (CST), 20 million NEWBS tokens will be airdropped every month, and all accounts delegated to BCA will be equally distributed according to the total number of proxy votes ( counted by the lowest value of five random snapshots per month , The first snapshot is taken at the fork time, and all airdrops obtained in the current month will be delivered before the 15th of the following month).

8. Promotion plan: Exchanges that support the online trading of NBS will receive 3-10 million NBS rewards; BCA allies will receive 5 million NBS rewards, and the total amount of various rewards will not exceed 100 million NBS.

9. Establish a lock-up mining account with a total of 500 million NBS, dedicated to lock-up mining on the NBS chain. The specific details will be notified separately.

10. The total amount of NBS is 3.6 billion. Except for the distributed and circulating NBS, all the rest are included in the fund pool as witness expenses and subsequent development, promotion and marketing funds. BCA will strictly control the expenditure of the fund pool on the premise of complying with the DPOS principle. At the same time, BCA will promote the reasonable separation of administrative and operational powers, so as to ensure both fairness and efficiency.


Notifier: BTS China Association (BCA)

Official website: http://btsgh.com

Date: August 30, 2020      


技术发展路线图
Technology Development Roadmap

开发uniswap交易功能
加强bitRMB稳定币应用
Develop uniswap  function


两个交易对,一个提供了ABC和CNY的交易,一个提供了XYZ和CNY的交易。通过Uniswap协议,一个用户可以先通过ABC to CNY交易将ABC转成CNY,接着再通过XYZ to CNY将CNY转换成XYZ。整个过程Uniswap自动完成,从用户的角度来看,ABC代币直接转换成了XYZ代币。

Two trading pairs, one provides ABC and CNY trading, and the other provides XYZ and CNY trading. Through the Uniswap protocol, a user can first convert ABC to CNY through ABC to CNY transaction, and then convert CNY to XYZ through XYZ to CNY. The whole process is completed automatically by Uniswap. From the user's point of view, ABC tokens are directly converted into XYZ tokens.

Uniswap协议是一种通过智能合约实现代币间自动交易的协议,bitRMB稳定币应用将在内场首先开始有了实际应用
The Uniswap protocol is a protocol that realizes automatic transactions between tokens through smart contracts. The bitRMB stablecoin  will first begin to have usage scenario


开发nbsDAO治理资产
Develop nbsDAO governance assets


治理资产nbsDAO的想法。把投票权通过抵押持有的nbs来获得,会更加公平,不管你有多少nbs,要发表意见就抵押nbs(相当于锁定),如果按这样思路改投票规则,就可以发行一种管理代币nbsDAO。100个nbs可以抵押成一个nbsDao,有了btsDao才可以参与nbs管理。nbsDAO可以转让和买卖,投票权可以交易。权力争夺时小散手上的nbs就有价值了。 如果大户争夺系统控制,你的nbsDAO就会很值钱。就是猴子这样的大户,如果要有影响力,也需要抵押出nbsDAO来参与系统治理。nbsDAO还可以抵押成bitcny,用来救市。nbsDAO解锁设定为7天。nbsDAO的抵押也是7天才生效。这样搞,就能把权力锁在笼子里了。让大家都能好受,但系统又能茁壮成长。让治理代币也有价值,这样治理和炒币就分开了。如果治理太离谱,炒币的就可以抵押bts来纠正错误,这样对系统来说就能保证长治久安。

The idea of ​​governance asset nbsDAO. It will be more fair to get voting rights through mortgage holding of nbs. No matter how many nbs you have, if you want to express your opinion, mortgage nbs (equivalent to locking). If you change the voting rules in this way, you can issue a management token nbsDAO. 100 nbs can be mortgaged into a nbsDao, only with btsDao can participate in nbs management. nbsDAO can be transferred and sold, voting rights can be traded. The nbs in Xiaosan's hands are valuable when fighting for power. If big players compete for system control, your nbsDAO will be very valuable. It is a big household like monkey, if they want to have influence, they also need to mortgage nbsDAO to participate in system governance. nbsDAO can also be mortgaged into bitcny to save the market. nbsDAO unlock is set to 7 days. The mortgage of nbsDAO takes 7 days to take effect. In this way, power can be locked in a cage. Let everyone feel better, but the system can thrive. Make governance tokens valuable, so that governance and currency speculation are separated. If the governance is too outrageous, the speculators can pledge BTS to correct the error, so that the system can ensure long-term stability.


其实就是设计一个治理资产叫nbsDAO,nbsDAO在任何时候解锁都能得到当初抵押时使用的nbs。
In fact, it is to design a governance asset called nbsDAO. When nbsDAO is unlocked at any time, the nbs used in the original mortgage can be obtained.


质押挖矿
Staking  mining


质押挖矿,你需要运行一个验证器节点,并将nbs代币锁定。之后,你允许参与创建区块获取奖励。30%见证人通过质押随机出块,前13个都是选上去的,后面的几个都是随机的,随机节点必须抵押10万(举例)nbs。就是每个人都可以抵押10万个nbs后运行一个节点,并获取和见证人一样挖矿奖励

Staking mining, you need to run a validator node and lock NBS tokens. After that, you are allowed to participate in the creation of blocks to get rewards. 30% of the witnesses randomly chosen to produce blocks through staking rule. The first 13 are selected. Random witness nodes must staking 1M (for example) NBS. Everyone can run a node after staking 1M NBS and get the same mining reward as the witness
   
如果你嫌运行验证器节点麻烦,可以使用质押池进行质押,它将代表你管理你的质押金。你就不需要运行节点并保持在线,只需支付少量费用,质押的费用可以低至1NBS。

If you find it troublesome to run a validator node, you can use a pledge pool to pledge, which will manage your pledge deposit on your behalf. You don't need to run a node and stay online, you only need to pay a small fee, and the staking fee can be as low as 1NBS.

目前的挖矿相比,权益证明还有其他几个优势:理论上,它更加安全以及去中心化;另外它将帮助NBS扩容,并更加高效地处理交易。
Compared with the current mining, proof of staking has several other advantages: theoretically, it is more secure and decentralized; in addition, it will help NBS expand capacity and process transactions more efficiently.

跨链(NBS-Connect)
Cross Chain


NBS-Connect初步的目的是让NBS可以无缝连接DeFi全生态,同时让NBS上的资产可以通过跨链进入以太坊Ethereum、波卡Polkadot、EOS、Cosmos等热门生态,转换成其它链上的标准资产,如:
 - 兑换成以太坊的ERC20以使用Uniswap、Balancer等Defi应用
- 兑换成Polkadot和Cosmos平行链上的资产,从而使用Cosmos和Polkadot的生态应用
- 兑换成Layer-2应用层资产,从而使用任意Layer-2应用
- 通过跨链连接以太坊上的稳定币(USDT、USDC等), 完善NBS上DeFi的基础设施
 
*预计上线时间2021年5月初。

The initial purpose of NBS-Connect is to allow NBS to seamlessly Connect DeFi full ecology, while allowing assets on NBS to cross the chain into Ethereum Ethereum, Polkadot, EOS, Cosmos and other popular ecosystems to be converted to standard assets on other chains, such as:
- convert into the etheric fang ERC20 Defi applications
- such as using Uniswap, Balancer converted into Polkadot and Cosmos parallel assets on the chain, thus the use of Cosmos and Polkadot ecological assets
- converted into Layer - 2 application Layer, so as to use any application Layer - 2
- through the chain connecting the etheric lane on the stability of the currency (USDT, USDC, etc.), improve the infrastructure on the NBS Defi
* is expected to launch time in early May 2021.


在未来,NBS-Connect也将帮助NBS生态外的资产进入NBS生态,从而感受NBS生态的用户热情和特色的数据经济基础设施。有了NBS-Connect, NBS持币者将能无缝链接任何生态的热点,也能为NBS生态吸收更多有价值的用户、开发者和资产。
In the future, NBS-Connect will also help assets outside the NBS ecosystem enter the NBS ecosystem, so as to feel the user enthusiasm of the NBS ecosystem and the characteristic data economy infrastructure. With NBS-Connect, NBS token holders will be able to seamlessly link any ecological hot spots, and will also be able to absorb more valuable users, developers and assets for the NBS ecosystem.


预言机(NBS-forecast )
Oracle


NBS-Forcast是基于NBS可信计算的预言机, 也是可信计算在DeFi领域的首个应用。预言机(Forcast)的作用是为区块链提供可信的链外数据输入,打通现实世界与链上世界。NBS-Forcast将实现一个高性能、安全、可扩展的预言机服务,同时借助跨链中继为以太坊、波卡等链上的DeFi应用提供服务。NBS-Forcast的应用场景包含如下几个方面:
1. 为NBS-Connect(跨链中继)提供密钥管理和交易签名功能;
2. 为Defi应用提供稳定、可信、丰富的外部数据;
3. 为NBS上智能合约提供可信的安全随机数。

*预计上线时间:2021年3月底(具体时间会在未来的公众号中公布)

NBS-Forcast is an oracle based on NBS trusted computing, and it is also the first application of trusted computing in the DeFi field. The role of the forecast machine (Forcast) is to provide reliable off-chain data input for the blockchain, and to connect the real world and the world on the chain. NBS-Forcast will implement a high-performance, secure, and scalable oracle service, and at the same time provide services for DeFi applications on Ethereum, Polkadot and other chains with the help of cross-chain relay. The application scenarios of NBS-Forcast include the following aspects:
1. Provide key management and transaction signature functions for NBS-Connect (cross-chain relay);
2. Provide stable, reliable and rich external data for Defi applications;
3 . Provide credible and secure random numbers for smart contracts on NBS.
 
*Estimated launch time: the end of March 2021 (the specific time will be announced in the future official account)


预言机能为DeFi领域带来更丰富的数据维度与类型,不再只局限于价格数据,可以为DeFi带来更丰富的玩法
The Oracle ability brings richer data dimensions and types to the DeFi domain, no longer limited to price data, and richer gameplay to DeFi

虚拟机
Virtual Machine


NBS加入可编程的虚拟机,这样所有中心化的互联网的服务都能部署到链上。
 
虚拟机能够打造一个虚拟的运行环境,打破现实中硬件架构的束缚解决兼容性问题,在链上能够完成编程,程序能够在链上运行,运行过程开源,运行逻辑开放,能够获得别人更多的信任。
 
加入虚拟机之后还将加入可横向扩展性。过去的区块链每秒交易处理总量是有上限的,多方共享一个通道,可以理解为共享模式;而在可横向扩展下就是独占模式,一个应用独占一条通道,这条通道是1万TPS,第二个应用也是1万TPS,第三个应用也是1万TPS,以此类推,每个应用都是独占式的,性能就能获得无限的扩张。就不存在随着应用越来越多,体量发展越来越大,性能越来越弱的问题。不过加入虚拟机以及横向扩展性仍然需要较长的时间来实现,预计需要一年的周期来实现。

NBS adds programmable virtual machines so that all centralized Internet services can be deployed on the chain.
The virtual machine can create a virtual operating environment, break the constraints of the hardware architecture in reality, solve compatibility problems, can complete programming on the chain, the program can run on the chain, the operating process is open source, the operating logic is open, and it can get more from others trust.
After adding the virtual machine, horizontal scalability will be added. In the past, there was an upper limit on the total transaction processing volume per second of the blockchain. The sharing of a channel by multiple parties can be understood as a sharing mode; while horizontally scalable, it is an exclusive mode. An application occupies a channel exclusively, and this channel is 10,000 TPS. , The second application is also 10,000 TPS, the third application is also 10,000 TPS, and so on, each application is exclusive, performance can be unlimited expansion. With more and more applications, there is no problem of increasing volume and weaker performance. However, adding virtual machines and horizontal scalability still takes a long time to achieve, and it is expected to take a year to achieve.


集成之后,NBS平台就可以不用每次为了添加新功能而硬分叉了,而是可以通过定制不同的智能合约直接添加,将极大降低部署的成本并增加灵活性。
After the integration of VM, the NBS platform does not need to hard fork each time to add new features, can be directly added by customizing different smart contracts, which will greatly reduce the cost of deployment and increase flexibility





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分叉币NBS的领取攻略和常见问答

新比特股NBS  昨天

众所周知,比特股BTS将于香港时间2020年9月10日21:55执行分叉,分叉出的新币命名NBS,英文全称NewBitshares,中文名称新比特股。
 
根据《BTS中国公会关于分叉新链NBS的公告》的分配细则说明,获取分叉糖果的方法有以下两种:
 
1.把bts放入内盘(包括手机客户端鼓鼓钱包、bts++、gdex等),并将账户的投票权代理给公会的帐号cn-vote。请注意:没有代理给公会的账户不在本次空投之列!鼓鼓钱包、bts++、gdex等APP应用均可非常简单方便地设置投票代理。
 
2.将bts放在支持空投领取的交易所。注意:分叉执行前,公告支持空投并支持上线NBS交易对的交易所账户将获得1:1空投。分叉执行前,对于仅表态支持空投(糖果)的交易所账户,按照10:1比例空投。截至本文发稿之时,已有以下几家交易所公告支持领取空投:Aex、ZB(ZB的公告表示将支持此次分叉代币领取,但是没有明确是否开通NBS的交易对,需进一步关注后续是否有补充公告)、BigONE、ZBG、MXC、GX.com。分叉之前可能还有其他平台支持,请密切关注。
 
3、在比特股内盘购买公会积分CNVOTE,平台将以CNVOTE:NBS为4:1的比例兑换NBS,且永久均能有效兑换。
 
以下为常见问题的解答:
Q:是不是把币放在内盘一定能免费领取空投?
A:不是的,必须将账户的投票权代理给公会的帐号cn-vote。
 
Q:内盘抵押的币是否可以领取空投?
A:可以,内盘的币不管是否抵押,只要将账户的投票权代理给公会的帐号cn-vote,均可以1:1获取空投。
 
Q:在AEX抵押的币能否获取空投?
A:不能。在AEX抵押的bts没法获取空投。
 
Q:如果我的BTS在不支持空投的交易所怎么办?
A:可以将币提到支持的交易所,或者提到内盘(需要有内盘帐号,目前bts++和鼓鼓钱包均可以注册内盘帐号)。







来了,新鲜热乎的

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/XMyh4moI1yhfn1Z5dohSQA


请及时关注比特股分叉的糖果领取细则
新比特股  今天
 



      因比特股核心开发团队成员abit在未经中外社区正式投票程序通过,私自纂改4.0升级代码且拒绝重新投票,经比特股公会多次沟通协商未果。为此,比特股公会经过全体成员讨论投票,决定于2020年9月10日21:55执行硬分叉预案。

硬分叉之后并非全体bts持有人都能1:1领取新币糖果,具体的投放细则请及时关注比特股公会官方公告,本公众号也将及时跟进。

如果你的bts是在内盘(无论是否处于抵押状态),你只需将投票代理给比特股公会帐户(cn-vote)即可耐心等待领取新币糖果空投,

如果你的bts在外部交易所,你必须立即与平台客服确认平台是否支持糖果空投及上架交易。


目前第一个表态支持糖果空投及上架交易的是AEX(原比特时代交易所https://www.aex.plus),你的bts只要在aex处于非抵押状态即可耐心等待糖果空投。
 

AEX只说了支持代领,压根就没说要开交易

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上天给每个人的IQ不一样,我们不会介意的,不是个人的错,父母的问题

很不错的想法。

BTS刚出世时,比特资产按照两倍抵押率背书,有人想通过持有比特资产锁定翻倍数量的BTS,助力BTS升值。但事与愿违,随着BTS价格下跌,抵押率不足产生爆仓,比特资产升值加速了BTS的下跌,抵押的BTS根本锁不住,比特资产数量也随之巨降。

贴主提出的btsDAO则不同,无爆仓之弊, 完善后完全可以助力BTS长线慢牛升值。譬如抵押100BTS生产1btsDAO,(建议)解除抵押100BTS需要(从市场购入并)销毁1btsDAO,则长线粉丝就可以购入btsDAO来锁死BTS,这是真正的长线锁仓,比抵押挖矿更牛逼,能真正引入(吸引)长线资金,btsDAO的长线慢牛升值也会助力BTS生态系统,实现双赢。

@bitcrab,@abit



这跟锁仓投票有何区别?哪怕是有一丝区别吗?

需要再套一次娃或者脱裤子放屁再多次一举吗?

本来不打算回你,算最后一次吧,毕竟本人修炼还不到家。除了喷还有啥,全天下就你对。


你连喷与事实道理都分不清楚有吗?

你自己仔细看看他所讲的跟你所讲的,跟锁仓投票有何区别?多了一个套娃的票权买卖就不是套娃了?

这不是套娃是什么?不是脱裤子放屁是什么?

就你讲的是道理,你说的那些跟废话有何区别?!

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btsDAO的长线慢牛升值也会助力BTS生态系统,实现双赢。

这除了废话中的废话还有什么?

一个个bts元老,需要个个脑子跟浆糊一样吗?个个说话跟修仙一样,bts不嗝屁谁嗝屁?

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目前所有的方案都是职责没有分清楚。治理代币可以让大户选择参与或不参与治理。大家也不会因为他们的持币量巨大而指责他们不参与生态的建设。

投票权资产btsDAO流转是为了增加内盘的活跃度。
有些人愿意投资投票权,有些人愿意投资bts。 就好象有人喜欢当官,有人喜欢经商。

dao还可以抵押成bitcny,用来救市。dao解锁设定为7天。dao的抵押也是7天才生效。这样搞,就能把权力锁在笼子里了。让大家都能好受,但系统又能茁壮成长。让治理代币也有价值,这样治理和炒币就分开了。如果治理太离谱,炒币的就可以抵押bts来纠正错误,这样对系统来说就能保证长治久安。

感觉很复杂,不明白这么设计的目的是什么。



目的就是套娃割韭菜


贿选买卖票的重度中毒患者。

当前的锁仓加bitcny,不是已经有这样的效果了吗。

当然强清和爆仓规则弊端很多,需要大力改革。

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投票权资产btsDAO流转是为了增加内盘的活跃度。
有些人愿意投资投票权,有些人愿意投资bts。 就好象有人喜欢当官,有人喜欢经商。

dao还可以抵押成bitcny,用来救市。dao解锁设定为7天。dao的抵押也是7天才生效。这样搞,就能把权力锁在笼子里了。让大家都能好受,但系统又能茁壮成长。让治理代币也有价值,这样治理和炒币就分开了。如果治理太离谱,炒币的就可以抵押bts来纠正错误,这样对系统来说就能保证长治久安。

感觉很复杂,不明白这么设计的目的是什么。



目的就是套娃割韭菜


贿选买卖票的重度中毒患者。

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这样设计的目的是让炒币的BTS和治理的BTS完全分开。市场上流通的BTS不参与治理,要参与治理的BTS必须锁仓抵押出btsDAO来参与投票。
这些btsDAO在市场出现大面积波动时可以由投票决定允许其抵押成bitCNY/USD 来稳定市场 。

dao还可以抵押成bitcny,用来救市。dao解锁设定为7天。dao的抵押也是7天才生效。这样搞,就能把权力锁在笼子里了。让大家都能好受,但系统又能茁壮成长。让治理代币也有价值,这样治理和炒币就分开了。如果治理太离谱,炒币的就可以抵押bts来纠正错误,这样对系统来说就能保证长治久安。

感觉很复杂,不明白这么设计的目的是什么。

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@Digital Lucifer  I  reposted without abit using Trojan to hijack  part for discussion. please do not lock.... thanks in advance 

The idea of ​​governance asset btsDAO. If Voting rights to be obtained through..

I’m thinking, in fact, it’s fairer to get voting rights through BTS held by mortgage. No matter how many BTS you have, you can mortgage BTS (equivalent to locking) if you want to express your opinion.

If BTS change the voting rules in this way, we can issue An management token btsDAO. 1000 bts can be mortgaged into One btsDao, only with btsDao can participate in bts management.

btsDao can be transferred and sold, voting rights can be traded. The bts in minnow's hands is useful when fighting for power. 100 bts can be mortgaged into 0.1 btsDAO. If big players compete for system control, your btsDAO will be very valuable. this way is a best solution all types of holders , big holder like alt , if he want to have  influence, he also need to mortgage the btsDAO to participate in system governance. btsDAO can also be mortgaged into bitcny in critical market condition. btsDAO unlocking is set to 7 days. btsDAO's mortgage also took effect in 7 days. In this way, power can be locked in a cage. It will make   everyone feel happy and help system to thrive.

Make governance tokens valuable, so that governance and coin speculation are separated. If the governance is too outrageous, the speculators can pledge BTS into btsDAO to correct the error, so that the system can ensure long-term stability.

In fact, all we need to do is to design a governance asset called btsDAO, btsDAO unlocked at any time can get back the same amount bts used in the original mortgage.   


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If Voting rights to be obtained through mortgage holding of BTS, which will be more fair. . . The idea of ​​governance asset btsDAO.

Recently, abit used Trojan to violate the dpos consensus. All he want  is trying to seize the most power.

I’m thinking, in fact, it’s fairer to get voting rights through BTS held by mortgage. No matter how many BTS you have, you can mortgage BTS (equivalent to locking) if you want to express your opinion.

If BTS change the voting rules in this way, we can issue An management token btsDAO. 1000 bts can be mortgaged into One btsDao, only with btsDao can participate in bts management.

btsDao can be transferred and sold, voting rights can be traded. The bts in minnow's hands is useful when fighting for power. 100 bts can be mortgaged into 0.1 btsDAO. If big players compete for system control, your btsDAO will be very valuable. this way is a best solution all types of holders , big holder like alt
, if he want to have an influence, he also need to mortgage the btsDAO to participate in system governance. btsDAO can also be mortgaged into bitcny in critical market condition. btsDAO unlocking is set to 7 days. btsDAO's mortgage also took effect in 7 days. In this way, power can be locked in a cage. It will make   everyone feel happy and help system to thrive.

Make governance tokens valuable, so that governance and currency speculation are separated. If the governance is too outrageous, the speculators can pledge BTS into btsDAO to correct the error, so that the system can ensure long-term stability.

In fact, all we need to do is to design a governance asset called btsDAO, btsDAO unlocked at any time can get back the same amount bts used in the original mortgage.

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投票权通过抵押持有的BTS来获得,会更加公平。。。治理资产btsDAO的想法。

最近abit携带私货违背dpos共识,其实归根结底就是要夺取最大权力。

我在考虑,其实把投票权通过抵押持有的BTS来获得,会更加公平,不管你有多少bts,要发表意见就抵押bts(相当于锁定),如果按这样思路改投票规则,就可以发行一种管理代币btsDAO。1000个bts可以抵押成一个btsDao,有了btsDao才可以参与bts管理。btsDao可以转让和买卖,投票权可以交易。权力争夺时小散手上的bts就有用了。你100个bts可以抵押成0.1个dao,如果大户争夺系统控制,你的dao就会很值钱。杯酒释兵权,这样搞最人道,就是猴子这样的大户,如果要有影响力,也需要抵押出dao来参与系统治理。dao还可以抵押成bitcny,用来救市。dao解锁设定为7天。dao的抵押也是7天才生效。这样搞,就能把权力锁在笼子里了。让大家都能好受,但系统又能茁壮成长。让治理代币也有价值,这样治理和炒币就分开了。如果治理太离谱,炒币的就可以抵押bts来纠正错误,这样对系统来说就能保证长治久安。

其实就是设计一个治理资产叫btsDAO,btsDAO在任何时候解锁都能得到当初抵押时使用的bts。

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中文(Chinese) / Re: 谁给了CN-VOTE的权力?
« on: August 22, 2020, 04:49:11 am »
投票权通过抵押持有的BTS来获得,会更加公平。。。治理资产btsDAO的想法。

我在考虑,其实把投票权通过抵押持有的BTS来获得,会更加公平,不管你有多少bts,要发表意见就抵押bts,如果按这样思路改投票规则,就可以发行一种管理代币btsDAO。1000个bts可以抵押成一个btsDao,有了btsDao才可以参与bts管理。btsDao可以转让和买卖,投票权可以交易。权力争夺时小散手上的bts就有用了。你100个bts可以抵押成0.1个dao,如果大户争夺系统控制,你的dao就会很值钱。杯酒释兵权,这样搞最人道,就是猴子这样的大户,如果要有影响力,也需要抵押出dao来参与系统治理。dao还可以抵押成bitcny,用来救市。dao解锁设定为7天。dao的抵押也是7天才生效。这样搞,就能把权力锁在笼子里了。让大家都能好受,但系统又能茁壮成长。让治理代币也有价值,这样治理和炒币就分开了。如果治理太离谱,炒币的就可以抵押bts来纠正错误,这样对系统来说就能保证长治久安。

其实就是设计一个治理资产叫btsDAO,btsDAO在任何时候解锁都能得到当初抵押时使用的bts。

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中文(Chinese) / Re: 关于4.0的几点说明
« on: August 20, 2020, 01:43:41 pm »
翻译成中文:

您支持abit就是支持彻头彻尾的腐败
                                        Thurl3  --这次abit像特洛伊木马一样的对付比特股也不会改变这种厌倦情绪
  
  你们真的很有趣,您在聊天中散布的所有谎言都太可笑了。

  首先,谁曾经是,现在仍然是,比特股上最腐败的成员? 谁打破了任何共识并导致社区表示比特股已损坏且治理失败? 难道不是Abit完全不顾社区意见和共识的举动吗? 难道不是abit他设置了BAIP工人破坏了整个社区的治理和投票系统? 难道不是Abit支持了骗局的做市机器人项目,并且彻底搞砸了,整个西方社区反对他并称他为骗子? 人们现在留下的所有辱骂都是比特股,现在你们都说abit他做得很好,因为现在所有需要使用资金池的工人将在新的规则下轻松获得投票。


让我告诉你Brain先生,Abit总是以错误的事实表达自己的观点。Abit和Bitcrab拒绝了TnT,是我这样的人试图将其推向前进。 Abit声称自己现在能够推动这一进步是一个公然的谎言,他是可以随时做到的,但就是不做。abit说核心开发者是解决许多小问题的好工作者(就是混日子领工资的意思)。 当初我们核心开发团队应该致力于p2p和其他defi。 我坚持要尽快完成它,不要失去上车的机会。 但我们得到的是Abit,Bitcrab,DL之间的内部交易, DL甚至攻击了defi。您可以在论坛或聊天中阅读当初的争论,我与DL有争议但他一直拒绝开发DEFI,因为他要做做市机器人dexbot。正是因为这个dexbox让我们无法有资金开发defi。浪费了半年,只完成税收功能。 人们问为什么我们bts不在DEFI上,为什么比特股份额会被忽略。 那是进步吗? 谁负责?Abit,Bitcrab,DL? 而abit您却以永无止境的声称完全支持这些拒绝让锚定恢复的人,他们将核心工作人员变成了全部狗屎,他们打破了任何共识,并像BTS的国王一样,决定了没有其他人可以参加的封闭小组。 从根本上说,他们要主宰bts。


挂单竞赛被称为骗局,腐败和缺乏治理的证明。 是谁做的? abit。谁将很快获得7000万投票权?Abit这个比特股上最腐败的成员,直到今天,他还是对社区的需求和决定视而不见。
那么,你们又该支持谁呢?你们之前指控破坏比特股最腐败的家伙abit? 电报聊天每天都要求他不要踢所有反对他的人。 他在乎吗?


您现在知道abit他今天对社区需求的看法了吧? 是否因为他而停止了任何腐败行为?还是因为其他人试图将所有腐败人士逐出关键职位而采取的行动? abit会成功的话,您可能会拥有一个新的投票系统(肯定不是以正确的方式进行选举的系统),但是您将拥有老派腐败的人掌权,迫使您做出改变。 再想一想,谁是比特股中最腐败的人,他们对社区投票感到不满。 abit所要做的就是让腐败的老人们保持职务和关键职能。如果abit他们现在拥有更多的投票权,他们在担任关键职位时像以前一样的共识失败。 有趣的是,现在所有BEOS的支持者全都出来了。即使很长时间之后,Liondani和Evangelist都能够在委员会中任职。有趣的是,当腐败发生或提出更改或建议投票的建议时,他们不愿意行使委员会职权同意支持让锚定回来,因为这对他们来说是个问题。但是现在他们却站出来了对abit表示支持,因此他们将恢复以前可以做但被拒绝的恢复锚定,为了在社区换取美好的声誉。 抱歉,如果您想支持腐败,您可以继续进行。西方人对abit感到厌倦,这次abit像特洛伊木马一样的对付比特股也不会改变这种厌倦情绪。 想要让像Abit这样腐败的人有起码的道德是很难的。您将会看到围绕他的斗争白热化。


CN-Vote仅拥有2.1亿张选票,要让你的工人在投票中真正获得多数支持不是很困难的事情。 但是很快您将拥有像abit这样腐败透顶的人,他们将获得7,000万票,这些人阻止了TNT,Pegg,真正的核心defi工作人员(defi),新的开发人员,支持的骗子工作人员(如理事在核心团队吃的空饷)。。。。您还记得Abit对所有指责他支持欺诈的人的答复吗? “我是上帝,你对我有什么办法”。 让包括DL和BEOS在内的这些腐败人士重新掌权,比特股今后不会有什么不同,而且CN-Vote使用CEX投票阻止工人的狗屎宣传也具有误导性.ZB的投票控制着巨蟹而巨蟹支持Abit而不是CN-Vote的 。 因此,您支持abit就是支持彻头彻尾的腐败



I'm glad you took this step and think the changes are beneficial for Bitshares governance.

I would have preferred change by consensus but consensus was broken and corrupted by debt voting.

As stated I think the staking vote multiplier should be lower but all the other changes are clear and dramatic improvements to consensus mechanism.


You guys are really funny and all the lies you spread on chats are just a shame.

First of all who was and still is the most corrupted member on bitshares?
Who broke any consensus and caused that community said bitshares is corrupted and governance failed ?
Was it the action of Abit who gave a total fuck about community opinion or consensus ?
Did he installed workers as BAIP which were normal workers to get it done destroying the governance and voting system even the whole community were against it ?
Was it Abit who supported scam workers and gave a total fuck that the western community where against it and called him a scammer ?
All the abuses that people left bitshares and now you guys are saying he did good because  now workers will be voted in?

You post BS like TnT will be voted and and other important workers.
Let me tell you Mr Brain who voices always his opinion with wrong facts.It was Abit and Bitcrab who refused TnT and people like me tried to push it forward.
So claiming he will now able to push it forward is a blatant lie.He could have done it anytime.
You say core prelude worker was a good worker fixing many small issues.
Thats the next big BS claim.It was said we should work on p2p and other defi.
I even insistet to get it done quickly to not lose the train.
What we got is an inside deal between Abit,Bitcrab,DL who took the support of BEOS and CN-Vote convincing them about their BS.DL even attacking defi .You can read it on forum or chats.Its not hidden i had a dispute with DL for not working on DEFI.
All we got thanks to the core prelude worker is peanuts.Wasted half a year for getting taxation features mainly.
People asking why we are not on DEFI pump and why bitshares gets ignored.
Is that progress ?
Who is responsible for it ?Abit ,Bitcrab,DL ?

And you with your never ending BS claims support exectly these people who refused to get pegg back,who changed the core worker into total BS,Who broke any consensus and act like kings of BTS deciding in closed groups where noone else can participate.
Its basicly their view or no other.

MM contest was called a scam and corruption and proof of lack of governance.
Who did it ?Abit ?


Who gets soon 70 Million voting power ?The most corrupted member on bitshares whoo gave till today a total fuck about communities demand and decission.

So who the fuck are you supporting again ?The most corrupted guy who you accused before to destroy bitshares?


Telegram chat demanding daily from him to unban all people.
Does he care?

So how do you come to the conclusion he gives today a fuck about communities demand ?
Has any corruption stopped because of him?Or because of the actions of others who are trying to kick out all corrupted people from key positions ?

Seriously would Abit succeed you would have maybe a new voting system (instead of waiting a bit and doing it the right way without the benefit stacking for a special group) but you would have the old corrupted people in power where you demanded changes.

Think once again who were the most corrupted people in bitshares who gave a fuck about community voting.

All it is about is keeping old corrupted people in position and key functions.

You have more votes ?Who gives a fuck if you have more vote now if they fuck any consensus like befor when holding key positions.


Funny now all BEOS supporters come out from their wholes

Even Liondani and Evangelist were able to make a post in committee after so long

Funny they were not able to make noice in committee when corruption happened or suggestions what to change or were even able to vote to get pegg back.
That was a problem for them.
But now they promote to support Abit so they will restore pegg which they could have done before but refused.

Sorry but if you want to support corruption you can go on.Foreigners are tired of Abit and a trojan horse won't change this sentiment.
To limit corrupted people like Abit it's difficult.You see the fight arround the centralization arround him.
CN-Vote has 210 million votes.No big deal to get workers voted in which really has support of majority.

However soon you will have  people like Abit who will have 70 million votes who blocked TNT,Pegg,Real core worker (defi),Fresh DEV's,
supported scam workers and all other staff  i won't repeat 100 times.


You remember Abits reply to everyone who accused him of supporting scams ?
GET MORE BTS.
It will be no diffrent just that you put these corrupted people back in power including DL and BEOS

Also the misleading BS propaganda that CN-Vote used CEX votes to block workers.ZB's votes where in control of Bitcrab who supports Abit and not CN-Vote.

So you support total corruption and nothing else when supporting Abit

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无利不起早的梓晨,现在和阿逼混乱。
哈哈哈哈又给爷整笑了。

每次你的表演都令人叹为观止。我早就不问社区的事情了,最近是专门回来看你表演的。

继续演,不要停。

我所知道的星在飘早就财务自由了。 还有我挺佩服星在飘的所作所为,有担当。不像某些人被大佬一捏就变。
星在飘的事情你们就看不惯了,那么abit无视社区与理事会与票权所私下做的事情,你们就习惯成自然了?叫他补个提案,好像要他命一样,无视你们任何人。
搞明白一点,投票,是权和利的斗争,从来都不是对与错的讨论。有什么看得惯看不惯的?成年人的世界里只有买还是卖,买哪个,站哪边。
我完全不能理解为什么工会会接纳星飘这样的人,这意味着一瞬间将整个事件推向彻底分裂,矛盾不可调和。
只可怜那些被误导的小白们,义愤填膺,虽然迟早会醒,但最后都是亏醒的。

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中文(Chinese) / Re: 关于4.0的几点说明
« on: August 20, 2020, 01:27:32 am »
LOL.  Obviously rape must be said to be lucky。 good move abit

我知道我会因为 4.0 投票机制修改的事情而遭到指责、背负骂名,但我并不后悔,因为我问心无愧。为了 BitShares 的长远健康发展,我个人愿意承担责任,以及付出经济代价。

社区苦投票机制之弊病久矣。
关于规则优化的讨论,已经进行了很多年,也形成了 BSIP-22 、 BSIP-24 等几个文档。
然而,原有规则的既得利益者不会放弃口中的蛋糕,会动用一切力量来阻挠改革。希望通过投票来修改投票规则,本身就是个笑话。 BSIP-22 投票了,但并没有通过,可见一斑。而这次补丁分叉事件就是更好的例子。
改良不成,唯有革命。

不用拿“程序正义”这几个字来压我。即使在法学界,程序正义也不是唯一标准。追求程序正义的最终目的是结果正义。只是因为结果正义的判断标准通常难以确定,才有程序正义这个词的生存空间。
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一个疯子把五个无辜的人绑在电车轨道上。一辆失控的电车朝他们驶来,并且片刻后就要碾压到他们。幸运的是,你可以拉一个拉杆,让电车开到另一条轨道上。然而问题在于,那个疯子在另一个电车轨道上也绑了一个人。考虑以上状况,你是否应拉拉杆?

我并不认为 4.0 引入的投票规则是完美的,但至少朝合理的方向迈出了一步,后面还可以继续优化。
锁仓获得投票权,对于一个平台的治理决策来说,是很重要的,这样投票者(决策者)和平台利益更可能保持一致。长时间的锁仓,决策时会更看重长期利益,而不是只看短期利益。
反过来说,如果让一个随时可能跑路的人来决策,是不怎么靠谱的。
我本人仍然看好 BitShares 后期发展,并且也愿意贡献自己的力量、推动发展,所以在 4.0 激活后就锁仓了我持有的 900 万 BTS ,期限两年起。
其他有意贡献力量共同发展的社区成员,或多或少也锁了一些。也就是说,这个规则,在社区内是有共识基础的。

巨蟹曾言,“灵魂拷问:我有必要继续和一个个人可以控制的链呆在一起吗?”
确实,一个承载数亿、曾经数百亿人民币价值的开源软件,没有人关注代码,是很悲哀的。
幸运的是, BitShares 还远没有那么糟糕。
4.0的投票功能确实是我一人独立开发,并未告知任何人(包括核心开发团队其他成员),除了提交代码。
但是,据我所知,在 4.0 版本生效之前,除我之外,至少有 5 位独立开发者审核过代码,知晓并认可了修改内容。最早的一位在我提交代码后一个星期之内就发现了。
我相信大部分开发者是“善”的。
如果我做的是什么见不得人的事情,恐怕早就被揪出来了。
巨蟹的言论还算客观。
而那些宣称我可以随意修改代码、甚至随意给自己发币的言论,实在不值一驳。

区块链的魅力,就在于每个节点运行者都有权选择运行什么软件。
当所有人都运行包含同样规则的软件,就产生了共识。
如果有一部分人选择运行不同规则的软件,不管出于什么原因,结果就是分叉。
当无法达成共识,分叉是自然而然、不可避免的。
任何节点都有分叉的自由。
缺乏支持的分叉会慢慢消亡,这也是自然选择。


下面,针对公会的公告,我简要的回复一下。

在我看来,公会已经不是以前的那个公会了。公会曾经是以推动 BitShares 发展为第一目标的。但自从教授退出、文华离开,而 星在飘 等人的影响力逐渐提升,公会已经失去初心。我曾经也是公会的一员,也曾为公会推动 BitShares 社区发展献策献力。然而,当公会把小团体利益置于 BitShares 整体利益之上的那一天起,我也选择了离开。公会的票数,从最高点超过 3 亿,到现在 2.2 亿,可以看出端倪。

公会在公告中声称代表“整个社区”、“大票仓达成一致意见”、“多数见证人支持”,明显是夸大事实。事实是,公会 2.2 亿票,占总流通币量 30 亿的 7% ;公会 600 多个代理帐号,占系统内总帐号数量(200万左右)的 0.03% ;所谓的大票仓, b-dex ,其代理票权完全来自于 alt ,而 alt 本人已发帖明确声明不支持分叉( alt 言行不一的情况另说 );所谓多数见证人支持,是因为公会威胁独立见证人群体不成功、把一些傀儡投上去了而已,况且很多其他票仓都还没有表态,最终投票结果如何还不一定。

公会补丁的主要开发者,在我看来,是有些技术实力的。此人我也曾极力争取,希望其能为 BitShares 贡献力量,而不是走歪路。但想依靠他来独立支持一条链,我的个人观点,说难听点,还差得远。如果公会能找到其他资深开发者加盟,可能还差不多。我在微信群里也说过,如果公会和平分叉,不干扰当前链的正常运行,分叉方面我愿意免费提供一段时间的技术支持。

关于公会声称我“拒不交出” github 权限的问题,我在微信里的原文是这样的:“github权限,可以给有能力有责任的人 ... 有能力的随时可以一起帮忙管理,我很乐意 ... baip 库给你们管了,管成什么样了?”
我的 github 权限,是通过长时间做贡献、获得社区认可,才获得的,而不是张口要来的。我要对这个权限负责,不可能随便转让,否则就是对社区不负责任。
我一直在找寻合适的开发者参与开发和管理社区项目。遇到有能力有责任的开发者,最大化授权也是常态。
任何人想要权限,请先做贡献。

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我所知道的星在飘早就财务自由了。 还有我挺佩服星在飘的所作所为,有担当。不像某些人被大佬一捏就变。
星在飘的事情你们就看不惯了,那么abit无视社区与理事会与票权所私下做的事情,你们就习惯成自然了?叫他补个提案,好像要他命一样,无视你们任何人。
搞明白一点,投票,是权和利的斗争,从来都不是对与错的讨论。有什么看得惯看不惯的?成年人的世界里只有买还是卖,买哪个,站哪边。
我完全不能理解为什么工会会接纳星飘这样的人,这意味着一瞬间将整个事件推向彻底分裂,矛盾不可调和。
只可怜那些被误导的小白们,义愤填膺,虽然迟早会醒,但最后都是亏醒的。

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what abit did to BTS just like you hire a manservant to clean your house but he slept with your wife and  told you that you will be a "papa" in 9 months..😂

感情色彩浓厚……

作为一篇大字报来说的话,算是合格的……

但是作为一个公告来说,是严重不合格的……公会都快600人了,就没有一个行政办公室出身的吗?!

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