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General Discussion / Re: BTS long term support
« on: January 13, 2015, 04:24:43 am »
Pretty good looking inverse head and shoulders... I have been looking for a bottom in crypto ever since we started getting divergences from different alts like ripple.  If we break the neckline at 0.15 I would say that the downtrend is over and we should start to move up if not consolidate.  If we get rejected off 0.15 and break through that support line we probably test support around 0.07 for another flush out of the longs.  This would be around a $25mil market cap.

Here's the flush I thought we would get if we were unable to break 0.15cny...  starting to get bloody out there

...let's hope support at 0.07 holds I guess (already broken through)...at this rate we'll be back to pre-pump price pretty dang quick.

Madness. I can't tell if it's just because bitcoin's tanking, or if BTS truly is losing steam.

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General Discussion / Re: and which "bitGold" is this?
« on: January 09, 2015, 06:26:31 pm »
Canadian. Lol that's all I know about it.

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General Discussion / Re: Default Vote for Core Devs???
« on: January 03, 2015, 08:08:27 pm »
Cat's already out of the bag.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=913075.0

Thanks newmine. I have to ask, if you hate BitShares so much...why the hell do you spend so much time here?

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In my opinion the big marking push should be held off for a while. The crypto ecosystem is in a recession and people aren't buying altcoins very much. Even Bitcoin is losing market cap despite spending a lot of money on funding with the Bitcoin Bowl.

In my opinion why not save up money for a proper advertisement campaign when the time is right? Why not a period of increased interest or for the next crypto bubble? Why not wait for 1.0 to be released and tested at least?

If anything we wait for 1.0 we need a coordinated campaign and to have the delegates up and running and being generating income before 1.0 comes out so we can do a splash.

The problem is that our "splash" may be coinciding with the Ethereum launch.  We'd be going toe to toe for market attention.  Given how effective their marketing has been, I think we would do well to avoid such unfortunate timing. 

Our main weapon on the marketing front is the "first mover advantage" which we are rapidly loosing.  It is true that our product may be better- who knows, but in the short to medium term, the market may not care.  Given that not many people understand these technologies in the first place, the market will tend to gravitate to where the buzz is, thus the concern.   It is much harder work to play catch up that it is to not get yourself in that position in the first place.

 +5%

That first mover advantage is rapidly slipping away, and in the lightning fast world of crypto, it may well already be gone. Action is needed, and quick.

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wtf is up with that picture of a guy reading "Wicked" upside down? Absolutely moronic article. I think we all need to stop giving it and the shitty website any further attention, lest it become the go-to article for BTS trolls -- like that shit P. Byrne article that keeps popping up.

Fuck journalism.

And who the hell cares whether or not BTS was truly the "first" at hiring someone for the blockchain? What matters is that it was an important event for our ecosystem, and it was clearly the most obvious/influential "hiring" of anyone for a blockchain yet. It's clearly just marketing speak, which always stretches the truth/exaggerates for effect, not some dirty scheming lie trying to brainwash the masses or some shit.

Fuck technicalities.

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"BitShares" trademark events:
2014-01-06 NEW APPLICATION ENTERED IN TRAM
2014-01-15 NEW APPLICATION OFFICE SUPPLIED DATA ENTERED IN TRAM
2014-01-16 NOTICE OF PSEUDO MARK E-MAILED
2014-04-02 ASSIGNED TO EXAMINER
2014-04-08 NON-FINAL ACTION WRITTEN
2014-04-08 NON-FINAL ACTION E-MAILED
2014-04-08 NOTIFICATION OF NON-FINAL ACTION E-MAILED
2014-09-17 TEAS RESPONSE TO OFFICE ACTION RECEIVED
2014-09-17 CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED IN LAW OFFICE
2014-09-18 TEAS/EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE ENTERED
2014-10-02 FINAL REFUSAL WRITTEN
2014-10-02 FINAL REFUSAL E-MAILED
2014-10-02 NOTIFICATION OF FINAL REFUSAL EMAILED

"BitDollar" trademark events:
2014-03-17 NEW APPLICATION ENTERED IN TRAM
2014-03-27 NEW APPLICATION OFFICE SUPPLIED DATA ENTERED IN TRAM
2014-03-28 NOTICE OF DESIGN SEARCH CODE AND PSEUDO MARK E-MAILED
2014-05-23 ASSIGNED TO EXAMINER
2014-05-24 SUSPENSION LETTER WRITTEN
2014-05-24 LETTER OF SUSPENSION E-MAILED
2014-05-24 NOTIFICATION OF LETTER OF SUSPENSION E-MAILED
2014-09-03 AUTOMATIC UPDATE OF ASSIGNMENT OF OWNERSHIP
2014-11-25 APPROVED FOR PUB - PRINCIPAL REGISTER
2014-12-09 ASSIGNED TO LIE
2014-12-12 LAW OFFICE PUBLICATION REVIEW COMPLETED

I'm not sure what exactly all these events mean, but it sounds like "BitDollar" by BitReserve is farther along than BTS' "BitShares" ever got...and if the USPTO is willing to give them BitDollar, I see no reason why they wouldn't allow the rest of their Bit* terms. I would hope that they stick to their precedent that Bit-anything is too descriptive, otherwise the entire system is a sham. Which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

(However, it looks like they resubmitted their application for BitDollar along with all the other terms on December 2nd under the ownership of "BITRESERVE GLOBAL FOUNDATION" instead of "BitReserve Ltd". Maybe this means something went wrong with their initial application back in March and they're trying again? So there's still a chance the USPTO could rule all their trademarks as being "too descriptive"...)

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General Discussion / BitReserve looking to steal the rest of our BitAssets
« on: December 30, 2014, 03:25:12 pm »
Looking at the BitReserve website again today (https://bitreserve.org/en/about-us/trademark-notice), and it looks like they're going on a trademark spree for all Bit* terms:

•BITRESERVE
•The BITRESERVE logo
•RESERVECHAIN
•RESERVELEDGER
•bitdollar
•bityuan
•bityen
•biteuro
•bitpound
•bitgold
•bitsilver
•bitpalladium
•bitelectrum
•bitmxpeso
•bitphpeso
•bitpeso

A Google search brings up trademark applications for each of these, filed 2014-12-02 (http://trademarks.justia.com/864/68/bitdollar-86468934.html, http://trademarks.justia.com/864/68/biteuro-86468938.html, http://trademarks.justia.com/864/68/bitgold-86468612.html, etc). It looks like none have been reviewed though (and thus they haven't been granted the trademarks yet, I'd presume), as the status shows "New Application - Record Initialized Not Assigned To Examiner" for each.

An interesting trademark application for bitdollar appears to have been made on 2014-03-13, and was apparently granted on 2014-12-12 with the status "Publication/Issue Review Complete" (http://trademarks.justia.com/862/20/bitdollar-86220809.html)

Are we really gonna let a centralized POS company backed by the scam artist Halsey Minor steal our limelight? Do we have any options to debate these trademarks with the USPTO (as our product was first to market to something?)

Oh, and BitReserve apparently also just completed its second crowdfunding round, bringing its total raised to $14 million now and becoming the second best crowdfunded digital currency project after Ethereum's $18 million (http://cointelegraph.com/news/113217/bitreserve-raises-us95-million-in-second-largest-crowdfunding-round-in-the-digital-currency-sector).

I feel a war brewing...

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General Discussion / Re: A perfect example I found of Bitcoin maximalism
« on: December 30, 2014, 02:17:00 pm »
To be fair, Paycoin really does appear to be a very obvious, blatant scam. Everything I've read about it sounds terrible. I wouldn't touch that one with a 20-foot pole. I guess time will tell, but I'd be very surprised if the whole thing didn't implode.

Just MHO.

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General Discussion / Re: Vitalik on stable currencies and POS
« on: December 30, 2014, 02:06:51 pm »
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A marketing solution: Ethereum has received major media coverage. It is a more developed brand name than "BitShares". So -- the hypothetical merged system would be called "Ethereum".  ;)

I could live with this. Ethereum doesn't really make sense as the name of a protocol, but it works great as the name for the overall ecosystem. It's actually an issue I've been thinking about because I think it's so significant that all of bitshares put together forms a single "thing", but this "thing" doesn't really have a name. Usually it's described as "the bitshares ecosystem" or "the bitshares community", but those are not actual names, they just describe it. Bitshares and the blockchain itself is going to become such a huge part of the future that it deserves a proper name like a country or a planet. I was thinking Omega, for the lesswrongesque superintelligence. Ethereum is a nice name too.

Yup, let's do this. Where do we start?

8)

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General Discussion / Re: You guys don't understand devshares.
« on: December 28, 2014, 04:20:00 pm »
..
 +5%
10% AGS 10 % PTS and 80% BTS would make everyone (heavily invested in bts) happy.

I absolutely agree.

Everyone should be heavily invested in BTS. This is the BTS forum, right?

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General Discussion / Re: You guys don't understand devshares.
« on: December 26, 2014, 07:49:18 pm »
People have mentioned that we didn't DISCUSS it with everyone and just acted.   That was mostly because we didn't want to DELAY our test network launch and we didn't WANT IT TO BE POLITICAL.  We just wanted a network out there and assumed it would be of low enough value that no one *SHOULD CARE*.    Bad assumptions apparently.   

Now we have a firestorm and have lost days of effort dealing with the fallout.   

I guess it is too much to ask for people to pick their battles.

There is no battle & expecting the human response to information stimuli to be different than it is, is too much to ask. I think 99/100 media guys could have told you a post 11/05 drop of BTS anything to PTS was negative at this stage. I don't think it's too much to ask to run something by 1 person the community thinks is decent at PR. Then there is no delay, no fallout, no drama. All of which are completely unnecessary.

This.

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General Discussion / Re: The end of POW approaches...
« on: December 26, 2014, 05:13:24 pm »
Yes please let PTS die like it should have. We paid millions during the merger so PTS should no longer be included in anything. I am confident that the shareholders are going to revolt against anyone supporting PTS through sharedrops.

What you are implying (that the merger was a "buyout") is simply a distortion of some early draft proposals. Stan and Dan have both consistently stated that PTS and the social consensus will live on. This anti-diversity view is bizarre and hurtful to BTS, which depends on the success of DPoS to gain wide adoption. We, as a community, should be glad to own the most advanced crypto-coin (BTS) PLUS a share in all future DPoS implementations (via AGS/PTS and the social consensus).

Whether or not these are just reflective of the ideas expressed in the proposals, the problem is that myself and I assume many others were under the impression that what the  second sharedrop to PTS and AGS was for was to ultimately buy out PTS and AGS for their features (including having BTS be the new sharedrop target for third parties as well). I was here all through the merger fiasco and not once did I think things would turn out like this, because it wasn't clearly communicated. I can almost guarantee there are many of us who would have strongly opposed the 14% sharedrop inflation to PTS and AGS if we would've known that PTS was gonna continue competing against us and steal resources/spotlight/community etc.

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General Discussion / Re: You guys don't understand devshares.
« on: December 26, 2014, 02:23:42 am »
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We reserve the right to do what we think is best for the product we are releasing.

You're bitshares delegates. BTS is your product. You need to do what's best for BTS, not DVS, not AGS, not PTS.

I feel like we're talking to a brick wall. How can the devs not see the problem here? There's basically nothing that can be said to justify the current allocation -- it goes against BTS holders' interests, and BTS is the only chain the devs should be answering to. Period.

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General Discussion / Re: You guys don't understand devshares.
« on: December 25, 2014, 08:09:56 pm »
I really don't understand why people complaining about the allocation of something that has absolutely no value other than testing like devshares. This could have been airdroped to any coin...To my understanding Devshares have no value.

It has symbolic value.

It shows that the devs still consider PTS/AGS to be things to sharedrop on.  But we thought that the reason we were giving 7% of BTS to AGs and PTS in the merger was so that in the future, everyone would sharedrop to BTS instead.  And yes, I mean EVERYONE.    We thought that we were buying out the social consensus and replacing it with a new social consensus of sharedropping to BTS.


I would not have supported the merger if I had known how it would end up.  It turned into a betrayal of BTS holders.  We should only have merged with DNS and VOTE, not PTS/AGS imo.
PTS should be dead, and all sharedrops should go only to BTS in the future.  Our community is still fractured because this is not the case.  We were supposed to be buying community unity, and instead we bought betrayal.

 +5%  +5%  +5%

My thoughts exactly. I'm sure many others were under this same impression.

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General Discussion / Re: New BTS client date?
« on: December 25, 2014, 12:04:34 pm »
To be fair, Christmas isn't over yet...lol.

Any news on this? What happened to the "conservative" estimate?

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