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General Discussion / Re: 关于交易大赛的建议
« on: May 01, 2020, 12:51:55 am »
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关于收入，理事会在2月份和4月份各有一次用bitCNY回购BTS的动作，总计回购了80万BTS左右。

这个回购按照投票提案是需要销毁的，但是似乎理事会并没有执行，那么这个回购销毁提案就失去了意义，这个需要理事会解释。

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我们之前深度方面做的还行，但成交量方面严重不够。吸引成交量不是说靠刷，而是要吸引真实有交易需求的人来交易

这个各有各的说法，刷也罢，真实的人来交易也罢，系统要的是收入，只要能够提高系统收入刷与真实的人没有太大的区别，何况投机获利属性才是促使人交易的最大动力，只有深度没有成交量，就没有交易投机空间，即使是有意愿交易的人也不愿意在一个成交量极其萎缩的交易对交易。

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另一方面非常重要的配套宣传事项社区我认为做的不到位

这个活动是BTS系统出钱给网关做补贴，系统出钱做了深度，网关应该自己去搞成交量与流动性，做宣传，现在网关似乎都想白嫖...

另一方面，把这些钱随便放到有正常喂价的锚定资产交易对bitasset/bts里，系统完全可以拿到比现在更好的大赛收入。

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奖励的很多交易对太小众，很难发展起来

像ETH、EOS的交易对太小众，连CEX这些交易对都没有量，我们为什么还需要？人们交易的时候需要一种资产来规避风险，很明显ETH/eos/bts都达不到这种要求，能够达到这种要求的只有btc与稳定币。

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见证人每月支出都有近90万BTS

见证人的支出是硬性需求，而大赛属于可有可无，没有大赛，锚定资产区也是这些稳稳的收入...


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而规则优化需要理性逻辑思维及数据分析支持。这方面我们做的也不够。比如楼主提的意见我认为就是没有逻辑和数据支撑的，基本是空想。

MM这么长时间了似乎也没有理性逻辑思维及数据分析支持，表面上的这些数据在bitcny/bts交易对一恢复正常后完全不堪一击，何况这些都是静态（死水）市场（保证不被穿单）的理论分析，而一定量的资金是可以承受与CEX杠杆对冲这种风险的，所以它可以去一些没有人的交易对（比如bts/ETH)待着薅，普通交易者谁会费劲的进行各种价格换算并交易持有都会大幅下跌的币种？有人也许会问，那它为什么不去ZB带着借贷拿息？因为这里面有资金利用率的问题，借贷不是随时会发生的。

市场为什么会如此需要稳定币是有原因的，这是绝大多数的普通交易者的基本需求，这也是几乎所有以本币币种为定价币种交易量都起不来的原因，像币安链完全可以用自身的BNB做定价币种，但是它为什么却自己也做了一套稳定币？




总的来说，现在大赛基本属于鸡肋，可有可无，停了还能避免资金流失，而且这些资金完全可以有其它用途，比如给理事会锚定资产提供喂价者以资金奖励等等....


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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BAIP2: Reform on bitEUR feed price mechanism
« on: April 21, 2020, 09:55:35 pm »

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For the same reasoning, BitUSD has already perfect structure and ownership which presents him as native asset of the blockchain, where any other created MPA afterwards isn't.

Nevermind, solution then is that actually after BTC Halving we remove BSIP76 once BTS goes over 5c. Hopefully it will happen and will pray for it.

The structure of bitasset is not perfect, but let's don't talk it too much, the one who understand it will know the means of the picture which i gave.

As no one can forecast the market, wait for something is too dangerous especially we build a levee(BSIP76) to stop the water so long time.

The main problem of bitusd is too many debtors come from CN-vote, they have too many debts in bitusd, now you want them to go away, i don't think this will get the enough vote.

Want to remove the levee, must lower the water first, now the water control the levee, what we can do first?

Too many erroneous mindsets in BTS community, that make us hard move forward,

Ok, let's focus the topic:
If the feed price need a delay or protection? the answer is yes, every futures contract have the protection in feed price, but none of them delay 48 hours, i had gave a article about that, one hour is the limit, the feed price should follow the real price(ok, there still have a big problem for the real price) in most of the time, and must recover normal in one hours in some extreme cases.
BSIP2 and  BSIP76 failed on these.

I'm tired to explain the feed price, the margin call, the force settlement, the defect in BSIP74 and BSIP62, the meaningless of bsip87, the use of BSIP77, the lending, everyone didn't want be babysat.
The contact time of BTS is only few years for me, maybe they know more much than me, let the time tell.

Ok, back to the point:

Want to remove the levee, must lower the water first, now the water control the levee, what we can do first?

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BAIP2: Reform on bitEUR feed price mechanism
« on: April 21, 2020, 02:41:06 pm »
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We need some agreement and solution fast, now it's been 9 months and its not "temporary" anymore.

We had the choice several weeks ago, but no one care about it, just want to charge the market fees and force settlement fees which were meaningless.

Now the people want to solve the problem of bitusd, that's good, so, tell me, which tools we have or will have?

We spend about 6000bts everyday in MM, what we got still is empty, if we need to spend so much money in MM continually?

Fixed the problem, yes, that's we should begin to do in the last year, now,we did nothing in such long time, so i don't believe the bts community have the ability to solve these problem, especially bitcrab and cn-vote, they have a
ridiculous logic and thought, they can't fixed any problem, just will make or wait the thing become more worse.

Most of the committees and the wittness didn't care about everything of BTS, even didn't have one word in one year, we are DPOS, NOT POW!

Now, just like someone said: let's beg the price of BTS go above 0.0345USD!

and no one should touch biteur, especially bitcrab, if someone really want a stablecoin of bts, he can use HONEST.bitasset!

 GOD will bless us.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BAIP2: Reform on bitEUR feed price mechanism
« on: April 20, 2020, 11:56:07 pm »
Quote from: matle85 on April 20, 2020, 03:18:01 pm
BSIP77 looks sensible.

I actually wouldnt mind hearing more details of a bail out / debt reduction proposal to see how that would work and how much it would cost.

Either way hopefully we can get some consensus that bitUSD should trial an alternative way.

Rough idea：

Step 1: Lower the MCR;

Step 2: Increase the ICR;

Step 3: Lower the Fixed feed price slowly；

Step 4：Wait the ratio of debt higher than ICR;

Step 5: Repeat step 3.

Step 6: When the feed price close to Global settlement Price, we will use BSIP58;

Step 7：Recover the MCR and ICR, feed price.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BAIP2: Reform on bitEUR feed price mechanism
« on: April 20, 2020, 01:11:07 pm »
Quote from: abit on April 20, 2020, 10:42:34 am
Quote from: Digital Lucifer on April 20, 2020, 09:32:47 am
If positions of Chinese holders are issue here, they would just need to spend some time on closing them and moving to bitCNY and it would be very acceptable process - since we don't want to damage anyone but just to restore health to certain parts of blockchain that are becoming very important in real world (future cashless society and importance of stablecoins).

They aren't able to close their positions unless
* majority of bitUSD holders force settle their holdings, and/or
* you found enough money in western to enter positions to replace current borrowers (like what's happening with bitEUR), and/or
* globally settle it (which technically can be done by the committee or witnesses).

If we have BSIP77, this problem can be easily soloved，increase the ICR and lower the MCR.

So what did we do in this mini maintenance？

en, set the force settlement offset to -5%?

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General Discussion / Re: New mechanism to prevent bad debt (black swan)
« on: April 18, 2020, 08:57:04 am »



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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BAIP2: Reform on bitEUR feed price mechanism
« on: April 17, 2020, 02:11:30 pm »
The time we locked the feed price is too long,  the first thing what we should do is remove the BSIP76 from bitusd!


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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BAIP2: Reform on bitEUR feed price mechanism
« on: April 17, 2020, 01:23:35 pm »
Fooish and stupid!!!

If you didn't have the ability to resolve the problem of bitcny and bitusd now, you shouldn't touch any bitasset again!!!

If the price of bts drop again, which price didn't you want to lock the biteur? which bitasset do you want to reform the BAIP2 again?

BAIP2 is a failed mechanism which has been proved by the market, how you and you small team can't realize the truth until now？！


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bitEUR now suffer great suppression in supply and liquidity by force settlement.

Set force settlement offst to 5%， then you will get what you want：the supply and liquidity！

Oh，i forgot，you and your small team love force settlement so mush, so you want to use BAIP2 to shit every bitasset one by one!

So much stablecoins in the world, please use your brain to see and learn！

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General Discussion / Re: Market making contest (main thread)
« on: April 16, 2020, 06:58:16 pm »

So, which committee can answer these questions?


Quote from: binggo on March 09, 2020, 12:08:26 am

    Now i must question the Market making contest：

    1. Did the MM have checked the trade volume for so long time？or considered it as a measure of the "liquidity"?

    2. Did the MM have checked the growth rate of new effective users for so long time？or considered it as a measure of the "result"？

    3. Did the MM have a BSIP for the community to vote？or the fund can be used easily by Committee without the vote of the community？

    In a way, the MM became a joke slowly, only have expenditure，nothing gained.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] 2020 Core Development (Part 1/2)
« on: April 11, 2020, 07:31:42 pm »
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Moment of truth...

124416 TX * ‭0.019305‬ BTS = 2401.85088 BTS per day (if we have full day of regular transactions)

Now we spend more than 2401 bts in MM, so what we should do first? or continue to make the MM as a tool of transferring benifit?!

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General Discussion / Re: BTS repurchase destruction proposal voted active
« on: April 10, 2020, 09:40:29 pm »
You will see, they just want to follow the BSIPS what they want or like.

This BSIP have voted in very very long time, but they didn't want to obey it, they more like to spend it as they wish.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Committee Member] - Proposal for "agorise" to join the Bitshares Committee
« on: April 10, 2020, 09:20:54 am »
Bienvenido!

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy:B-DEX
« on: April 10, 2020, 09:17:39 am »
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for the force settlement fee, suppose we set bitCNY force settlement fee as 1%, if one day 1M BTS settled, system will get 10K BTS as fee, I don't know why you always talk about $5/day.

suppose we set bitCNY force settlement fee as 10% and offset as -10%, if one day 1M BTS settled, how substantial revenue！！！

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maybe you dislike this worker, up to you, but this worker really come out after long time discussion, it get great support in China community.

OK, OK, this worker really really rellay come out after long time discussion by some small groups! Very fair!

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: zb交易所假币砸盘，呼吁见证人停止按交易所喂价
« on: April 08, 2020, 10:09:11 am »
Quote from: lovegan007 on April 06, 2020, 07:02:26 pm
交易所作恶严重，大家也形成了交易所砸盘共识，无法阻止无法解决，铁粉已经被砸死了，已失人心了。BTS错过了蜢佳的锁喂价时机，在AEX最缺BITCNY的时候就应该采用锁喂价功能的，那样就能让BITCNY得到像USDT一样的发展了，但错失了机会，玩完了。

锁喂价不能解决任何问题，锁喂价唯一的作用就是给各种解决方案的实施提供了窗口时间，然而现在却俨然成了一个所谓的解决方案！。。。。这不很可笑吗？

所有的交易所都有刷量假币，难道时仅仅ZB一家？AEX刷的一样狠，唯一不同的是：ZB是一个杠杆市场！如果清楚杠杆市场爆仓了是怎么在市场平仓的，可能大家会理解的更透彻一些。

但是： 即使是ZB是假币刷量，但是也是在真实资金的推动下，才会出现如此大的量，仔细观察分析一下又不是很困难，多空双方其实都是公平的，可能不公平的一点是，空方有一个后备粮仓。

空方的后备粮仓是什么？ 是抵押内盘！

抵押内盘为什么会成为后备粮仓？主要是MSSR！

为什么主要是MSSR，而不是爆仓量？
因为MSSR会形成内盘与外盘的折价，空方在外盘吃砸盘的筹码除非是大多头爆仓，不然很难吃到便宜筹码，但是内盘在MSSR的情况下很有一个折价，吃内盘要比吃外盘容易的多。
而爆仓量并不是那么的重要，只要价格与外盘大体持平，空头没有那么大的动力去砸盘。

怎么解决这个后备粮仓？现在有几种预防机制？
1. 按需爆仓：现在已经有了，能够吃到的实际筹码已经少很多了；
2. 低MSSR：这个可以有，但是你要给买方一个理由，没有足够的打折吸引力的情况下，为什么要去吃这个债仓？怎么把这个低MSSR情况下的吃单积极性提高？
怎么把这个低MSSR情况下的吃单积极性提高？ 收爆仓手续费，然后按照喂价吃爆仓单，再分享一部分手续费给吃单方，这个手续费冻结48小时行不行？
3. 爆仓量是不是可以缓解一下？ 搞个简单的借贷不爆仓，抵押线与爆仓线分离，爆仓量不会是一个很大的问题。当然，人家把价格砸穿了，那没办法，实力不行早低头认输，别耍赖。
4. 喂价延迟一下可不可以？ 可以，这也是一个方案，绝大多数的合约交易所，都有喂价延迟，但是人家没有那么丧心病狂延迟48小时。
那怎么延迟好？ 当然每个人的看法不一样，我提一个标准（有现成的方案）：喂价变化的速度跟上，喂价的幅度做延迟，延迟不要超过一个小时，幅度不要延迟太大。
5. 喂价锁行不行 别逗了，哥哥姐姐们，这是给解决方案提供窗口时间，而不是作为一个解决方案，这个熔法，你们在炼钢还是打铁？还是拒绝承认现实？长年累月建立的信任，只需要一根稻草就能戳烂。



打铁还需自身硬，makerdao被爆了，难道还要埋怨ZB交易所假币ETH砸盘，各大交易所开ETH杠杆吗？！醒醒，别光喝酒，多吃点菜！

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BTS错过了蜢佳的锁喂价时机，在AEX最缺BITCNY的时候就应该采用锁喂价功能的，

为什么要锁喂价？有这个必要吗？很明显没有这个必要！

把资不抵债的债仓让一个独立的锚定资产管理账户背了（作为黑仓处理），然后在市场发行债券行不行？锚定资产管理账户有持续的市场交易手续费及流动性罚金做收入，这些债券难道还怕回购不回来？这样既没有黑天鹅，锚定资产持有者害怕大幅贬值的话可以去买债券保值，锚定资产流动性又不会被大幅收紧，难道不行？

哦，很多人怕自己资不抵债被锚定资产管理账户收了，嗯，这里不是托儿所，大家都成熟一些，做抵押的时候不想承担风险，光做梦想好事吗？

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大家也形成了交易所砸盘共识

大家为什么会形成这个共识？问题出在，一帮人会做基本面吗？能摊一张正常的大饼吗？答案很明显，不能！

天天就知道画饼讲故事吹牛逼耍赖等打脸，现在做的基本就是画张大饼忽悠一帮韭菜跟老人，然后割一把跑路，大家难道不形成砸盘的共识，难道要去煞笔的做多？

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy:B-DEX
« on: April 07, 2020, 02:41:15 pm »
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Focus more on the big picture, but not the peanuts。
Rome is not built in one day, we have to go forward step by step, little by little. The spirit of the new core worker is just in this direction, work on the easily achieved things first aka the low-hanging fruits, but not blindly rush into some imaginations of fancy features which require much efforts but don't know who will use or benefit from.

I don't think you or your group focus more on the big picture, most of you just fcous on the peanuts!
If have a big picture, that's good, show it clearly to all of the community.

There is no ROME, some bsips in this new core worker didn't build anything, just in order to satisfy selffish desire of small groups, can't solve anything, waste time and money, didn't have any long-term planning, this is the reality,

Some of committees(especially CN committees) didn't have a clear understanding and recognition, just want to let we charge fees from here, charge fees from there……charge fees, then said to the community, oh, god, we charge fees, we will have a good futher, we will solve any problem, i don't want to fuck this thought, that's very pathetic and fool.

Let's act like a adult in the market and economy in the futher, don't act like a baby in the past six years.

So i suggest the holder of BTS not to support most of CN committees, lost the mind is very very dangerous.

食之无味，弃之可惜！

弃疗! 弃疗！

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