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General Discussion / BitShares article on coindesk
« on: February 05, 2015, 11:04:21 pm »
http://www.coindesk.com/bitshares-decentralized-exchange-crypto-2-0/

Well done, that is a great article for us ! Congratulations to anyone involved :)

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General Discussion / Re: Paying subjects of Scientific Experiments
« on: February 05, 2015, 11:00:18 pm »
The only issue I see is that a person could simply make multiple different BTS accounts and use each one to repeat the test.

I think there are a few ways this could be prevented.  Each experiment could have an associated access code that's generated prior to the start and expires within a certain time period.

I'd rather start by asking for identification through facebook/social network during the creation of the account on the third party website, I guess that would do the job. On mechanical turk, payments are not automatic, so the experimenter can have the possibility not to pay if he fears that someone is doing the experiment wrongly (and if someone re-does the experiment, I bet he will be bored and do it in a way that is detectable).

Not a real market, but I definitely like that project, and it can be my little platform for making new people discover cryptocurrencies by putting them to good use :). I'll work on it

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General Discussion / Re: Our Version of the "Easy Button"?
« on: February 05, 2015, 06:27:28 pm »
Applied psychology 101 : nudge the fellow with a big, shiny easy button. Brilliant :)

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I have this problem for DevShares, I launched it once and did not input a password. Now I'm blocked. And I'm not able to find my wallet files on my computer... nor have I found a place where it's explained where my wallet is (I'm on OS X 10.9).

I think that this problem (blocking access even though no password has ever been entered) has to be solved, if it is not in the to do list, because it is quite frustrating.
Did you try to restart the wallet? Does it allow you create your password?
Wallet files should be in /Users/HOME/Library/Application Support/DevShares

Thanks ! I'm ashamed I wasn't able to find them by myself. I'm quite new to Mac and still a little bit confused about the filing system.
The renaming to "olsDefault" worked

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bts : inarizushi

Thanks for the great job, it's heart warming to see a project taking off :)

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN] Cryptohedge Financial Services soft launch
« on: February 04, 2015, 11:31:33 am »
Congrats Rune, Riverhead and the other people involved, that's huge, thank you ! And it's a great way to divest inside the BTS ecosystem. It's very exciting again !

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General Discussion / Re: I'm Nervous, Please Reassure Me
« on: February 03, 2015, 09:55:22 pm »
Yeah, psychotherapy thread !

The premises haven't changed : we know that once the product is finished, it is the best. We know BitAssets work. This is huge. But everybody feels so bad. I guess it's the Bitcoin depression... if price was going +1% every day we would be ecstatic... and price is almost entirely dependent on Bitcoin.
I would love the BTS price to stabilize relative to the USD, and to let BTC sink alone.. Good news like shapeshift integration almost had no effect...


We have so many good news, good news like shapeshift integration almost had no effect...  and bad news aren't that we lose money, nor that our product is weak... bad news are just that we are late, and that many recurrent problems are still not addressed. And Brian's broken promises. (And Bingo). But it's nothing that really should get the price down so low.

Ethereum is currently massively overvalued (I don't remember if it was Rune or Fuzzy's analysis that the current price value them at $400 trillions in the end... I'm unable to find that, hope it's not a figment of my imagination), they will suffer the same problems as we do for months. We still have the best product. There are countless business that could thrive on easily usable BitAssets : let's get them out there.

I'm back to bullish tonight  :)

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General Discussion / SVM : the world dumbest idea ?
« on: February 03, 2015, 06:09:41 pm »
A very interesting paper in my opinion (but I don't know much about economy) :
https://www.gmo.com/America/CMSAttachmentDownload.aspx?target=JUBRxi51IIBoe1yul9uERnfCmQoglFl9k5qwJSfHx8w%2fWCnFLmEb2MC9GoFnZVlslR5NzCRY1ajgn503icBv67VQg%2fNVUMWsYvi3A2%2fL%2bS28A7Pthjp7LmOfLYQfHMJc

Shareholder Value Maximization : a very bad goal for a company. It's sad that so much people have a short term view in crypto... short term view enabled by instant trading ?

This resonates with politics also : many politicians (at least, in France) aim at maximizing support rather than setting a vision of where to go. The irony being that the more consensual they try to be, the more hated they become.

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General Discussion / Paying subjects of Scientific Experiments
« on: February 03, 2015, 05:22:10 pm »
Hello all,

I may have a great possibility of BitAssets use : remunerating time spent on scientific experiments/surveys.

I am a cognitive psychology PhD student, and as such I need to find subjects to pass experiments. It is extremely time consuming to be present during the experiment, so setting up an experiment on internet is much easier. But it's basically impossible to both 1) pay subjects and 2) make sure a person passes the experience only once. Amazon mechanical turk can do the trick, but it's unavailable outside the US, and most mturk workers do taht for a living and don't try to comply with the requirements of the experiments, for example they listen to music or do something else simultaneously (yup, some research has been done on that). Moreover passing experiments is not at all in the spirit of amazon mechanical turk, which is designed for brainless activity (well, a brain requiring brainless activity !) like classifiying images or typing relevant text from images.

I don't know how marketers and survey makes find their prospects, but for scientists conducing experiments in front a computer, be it psychological experiments or surveys, there is NO solution to the problem of finding subjects on internet. Which is crazy, when we think about it : this is remunerated work, generally not interesting, but at least uncommon and varied.

So, I would love to have that service on a blockchain, paying with BitAssets, and, the icing on the cake, the possibility to uniquely identify subjects (when the Vote identification functionnality is there...), to cross-check data between different experiments, etc. That would change everything in the way we psychologists work.

It probably cannot be decentralized : as I see it, the blockchain would track who did what experiment, so that the subjects can be paid. The experiments themselves would be passed, and data collected on an external website. (I would LOVE to see scientific data on a blockchain, but that's probably very inconvenient).


For adoption of BitAssets, it would be great : with so many people looking for ways to earn money, remunerated work markets itself.
The amazon mechanical turk market and the survey market are, I guess, huge compared with what we little scientists do, but I can't see why they couldn't be implemented on a blockchain. However, if I were to provide this service, I would probably want to start with my little niche scientist market.


Probably, it would be quite costly to make this a third party DAC. It should clearly use the BTS DAC, with its BitAssets and (present and future) identification features. As I see it now (not much reflexion yet), the subject connects himself to the website and chose a proposed experiment. He would then be asked to identify himself by sending a transaction to a specified account (maybe with a specified memo), then pass the experiment, and receive his payment at the condition he respected some specified rules of the experiment, automatically verifiable (obviously, he must go the end of the experiment). It would be so much better with unique identification, but it could still be great without. I think that I could convince some colleagues to use that service to run their experiments, and that it would be quite easy to find subjects, so it might be a great way to find new users and drive adoption of BitAssets (well, I know, mini market, but the concept seems good to me :D ).

What are your impressions ? Do you see any reasons that would make it hard to implement this service ?

Also, has someone thought of/is someone putting amazon-mechanical-turk-like service on a blockchain ?


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I agree with 'Discuss this again in several months".

Get the stable client and lite wallet that we need NOW out asap.  We have tons of good ideas already.  We need execution on these ideas more than we need more ideas right now.

 +5% +5%

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1) we cannot give people freedom if we cannot make money in the market
2) making it fun will increase adoption like facebook games. 
3) what good is freedom if you cannot have fun getting there?

1) We have countless ways to make money that are unique to BitShares. Gambling is not one of those in which BitShares competitive. Especially with the bad user experience. However in the end of the mumble you made it clear that gambling will come after, and that user experience is indeed the focus - I'm reassured on that.
2) Well, bingo can hardly be called fun in the 21th century. Facebook games are more fun, and more addictive, for whatever reasons.
3) I guess/hope you don't really want to defend that. Bingo is a brainless addictive thingie - not exactly the golden route to freedom, nor to fun.

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Oh god, the game/bingo thing is a terrible idea.
I don't want that thing on my wallet, because I'll probably end up playing, even if I don't want to. Promoting addictive behaviors is bad.

Is it me, or did the focus changed from "we'll give freedom to everybody" to "making BitShares fun". We don't need anything else than 1) a focus on marketing BitAssets 2) a good user experience for the wallet.

Now I'm pissed off 

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I have this problem for DevShares, I launched it once and did not input a password. Now I'm blocked. And I'm not able to find my wallet files on my computer... nor have I found a place where it's explained where my wallet is (I'm on OS X 10.9).

I think that this problem (blocking access even though no password has ever been entered) has to be solved, if it is not in the to do list, because it is quite frustrating.

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I don't understand anything in economy, oh God. My sole interrogation : is euro "supposed" to continue going down from now (against crypto), as more and more bonds are bought each month, or is the market supposed to have already incorporated all the information ?

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General Discussion / Re: Up 10% against btc.
« on: January 21, 2015, 08:18:32 am »
The last downtrend seemed strongly correlated with the bitcoin downtrend, which I find undeserved, as we don't have to pay miners, and weren't robbed of a significant amount of BTS... And we have a ton of good news and projects moving forward.

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