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General Discussion / Re: Liquidity, Liquidity, Liquidity
« on: February 15, 2017, 07:16:13 am »
hope more USDT liquidity can be provided, in the next month Bitcoin buyers cannot withdraw BTC from China exchanges, it's a good time for BTSers to borrow bitUSD and buy BTC from polo or bfx, however a bridge that connect USDT and bitUSD is needed.

I myself need to buy a little big quantity of USDT at 1bitUSD, hope someone can sell...

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] New GUI development worker
« on: February 14, 2017, 01:13:21 pm »
not sure whether below issue is listed in the issues, anyway hope it can be fixed in this worker:

a suprising price often come out when the trade quantity is very low, it's not a problem that the price appear in the listed history, but when the suprising price appear in the chart, it always make the chart confusing and misleading.

if it's possible to filter this kind of price out to let it not appear in the chart, it will be much better. 






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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] Advertisement at 8btc
« on: February 14, 2017, 12:23:23 pm »
I don't recognize mandarin but could you put something similar this lines..

This exchange has low to no fees   

Bitshare DEX

 ....and cant be closed
.....................................
like this the message would be more powerful

I don't think it exact to say low to no fees, as assets like OPEN.BTC, OPEN.ETH also charge 0.2% market fees.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] Advertisement at 8btc
« on: February 14, 2017, 04:54:56 am »
the banner ad is already online:



as current time is good to promote a decentralized exchange, I can not wait to put it on.

the pic is not very satisfactory, however it is accepted and include enough infomations, if I can get a better one in recent future I'll replace the current one.

@kenCode  I do not think such a banner ad in 8btc.com is very annoying, as 1.vistors can just ignore it. 2.a visitor to 8bts.com is possiblly interested in DEX.

@tbone @alt @svk I agree that we should have a welcome page or just make the dashboard page a welcome page, with detecting languate from browser setting and put languate setting at the top.

I also draft some Chinese text for putting in the Chinese welcome page, hope that can help:

欢迎来到比特股去中心化交易所!
比特股2.0是一个基于区块链构建的去中心化交易所,该交易所通称DEX, DEX有着工业级的业务处理能力,能够永不停歇地提供公正和透明的服务,这里有比特股首创的bitCNY,bitUSD等智能货币,用户可以在这里根据自己的需要发行用户定义资产(UIA),也可以买卖通用的数字资产如BTC, ETH等。
来比特股尽情享受交易的乐趣吧!

官网:             https://bitshares.org/
论坛:             https://bitsharestalk.org
QQ群:           423951676
Github:        https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-core

the links above can help a new user a lot so I think it will be good to put them there.


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中文 (Chinese) / 如何评估一个开发worker?
« on: February 13, 2017, 04:00:26 pm »
1.从全局的角度看,这个项目是否有益?是否走在一个正确的技术路线上?
2.开发者是否足够专业?所申请的工资是否合理?

每次有一个新发布的worker,投票时都要被这些问题折磨,对于“是否走在一个正确的技术路线上”这个问题尤其难以判断,非常需要技术大牛们提供意见。

当前情况下,我不认为“反对所有增发”是一种正确的选择,对于有意义的合理的worker支持是更合理的选择。目前的区块链开源社区,没有几个程序员是不拿钱白干的,他们要么从属于某个项目,要么以外包的形式干活拿钱。

难点在于评估和取舍这些worker,就xeroc刚刚发布的worker uptick而言,中国社区能看到的讨论都集中在第二个问题上,而且持强烈的负面态度,然而似乎并没有看到这些负面态度有足够认真严肃的证据支持。听起来更象是“我反对增发,你不够专业,你工资太高”的惯常叫喊。

希望能有更多更认真严肃的讨论,如写在这里不便,可以到QQ群里讨论。





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General Discussion / Re: Liquidity, Liquidity, Liquidity
« on: February 13, 2017, 05:56:09 am »
although the process to increase witness payment is still on going, I am considering another possibility - to pay witness in bitUSD.
frankly speaking I have considered to use bitCNY to do this, as bitCNY has better supply and market depth than bitUSD, but more bitCNY supply may lead to one result that had happened: most of the bitCNY finally acculmate in transwiser and transwiser have to force settle. so maybe bitUSD is a better choise.

suppose 0.004$ is BTS price, then block payment should be 0.012$, 345.6 USD per day.

let reserve pool borrow 62208 bitUSD - which is total witness payment for 180 days, with 0.004$ as price and 5 as collateral ratio, that need 77,760,000 BTS for collateral - seems OK.

in order to get USD for position close, every week committee will place an order to sell 604800BTS  - the total weekly witness payment with 3BTS/block, with the price calculated out from some rules: the highest BTS price in the last week or other better rules.



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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] Advertisement at 8btc
« on: February 12, 2017, 05:02:00 am »
Give it a try!
Do you run your own faucet? If not, you should set one up to capture the fresh users' referral fee.
I can help you set one up.

I just found that if a new user create an account at the official web wallet https://bitshares.org/wallet/#/, both the register and the referrer are openledger.

I do not run my own faucet now, so if I set up one, it's possible to let the new user select faucet, in other words referrer,  while creating new account  at the official web wallet?

and what is needed to run a faucet? a LTM account with enough BTS and also a server?

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] Advertisement at 8btc
« on: February 12, 2017, 03:53:18 am »
I am in favor of giving this a try.  But I agree with @fav that the results should be measured (both by click throughs from the ad, and by new accounts created under a specific referrer). 

Also very important, both in general and to maximize the success of this effort (and the efficiency of the funds spent), the wallet needs a suitable page for new visitors to land on.  The current default page is the account creation page (see 1st image below), which I've been saying is a very unsuitable page for new visitors to land.  Perhaps this is why you are proposing to have people land on the dashboard page.  But this page is also not suitable since it has no information (see 2nd image below). 

Because I believe it is imperative to have a suitable landing page for new visitors (for this ad campaign AND in general), I took the time to create one (see 3rd image below).  I proposed it last week to @Chris420, who liked the idea and encouraged me to ask @svk to incorporate it into the wallet site.  I discussed it with @svk and understand it's currently in progress.  @bitcrab, I hope you will write some similar text in Chinese, or translate the text I wrote so there's a proper landing page in place before spending money on an ad.

Proposed default / DEX "Homepage":


hi @tbone your advice is great, I will provide the Chinese text soon.
I have even one more idea, when the new user click the page, can the server get the info of the users' area and change the language setting accordingly and automatically? if yes it will help many new users from China a lot. @svk

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Stakeholder Proposals / [Worker Proposal] Advertisement at 8btc
« on: February 11, 2017, 04:22:40 pm »
recently China goverment took some actions to restrict/regulate the service provided by cryptoexchanges such as OKcoin, huobi, BTCC, yunbi etc., now it's a good time to promote DEX service in China, I plan to do advertisement at 8btc, the most popular website for blockchain and cryptocurrency in China, below is the details:

an advertise picture that link to https://bitshares.org/wallet/#/dashboard will be put to the up right side of the homepage of 8btc.com or www.8btc.com, as below:

several advertisement pictures will share the place, and one occupy at least 25% of the time.

8btc charge 2BTC/month for this kind of advertisement,I will put in the advertisement for 1 month, which need 2BTC, I will offer 1BTC, and I create this worker to collect the left fund.

the worker will last 1month, totally 252000 BTS, daily pay 8400 BTS.

the advertisement will be online in one week.

your support is appreciated!





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General Discussion / Re: how about to raise block reward?
« on: February 08, 2017, 01:07:33 pm »
Thanks @Thom for what you have done as witness, but anyway please calm down.
many discussion happened in Telegram as it is an instand messenger so many people like the convenience, however it is just discussion, to make decision we always need open discussion and voting.
I have also considered 5BTS or 8BTS as an option, after some open discussion and the poll I decided to propose 4BTS. then I found many shareholder prefer 3BTS, I think it is good to let the community select from no change, 3BTS and 4BTS by voting, that's what had happened.
now 3BTS get most support, however we still have 9 days for voting, 4BTS option still has chance to win. if you believe 4BTS is better, you can try to talk with proxies to get support from them.

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General Discussion / Re: how about to raise block reward?
« on: February 07, 2017, 03:31:18 pm »
as many shareholders prefer 3BTS, so one more worker is created for 3BTS option, please vote if this is your choice.

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 你赞同增加出块奖励吗?
« on: February 04, 2017, 05:15:15 am »
在当前1.5BTS/block的奖励条件下,见证人扣除掉各项支出后利润微薄,有很多见证人已经对当见证人这件事慢慢失去兴趣,对升级服务提供可靠喂价等事物也缺乏足够动力。

bitcube的见证人因为不再维护被选下去了,有3-4个见证人因为不提供喂价被选下来了,但他们好像也对此漠然视之。

当然,也有像alt和abit这样出于热情提供优质的见证人服务的,他们甚至反对提高见证人工资,在与其他一些见证人沟通中也有人告诉我,在现有工资下他们也愿意继续努力提供可靠的服务。

问题在于,这种热情并不具有普遍性,不能指望仅仅靠热情我们就能拥有一个足够高效且数量足够多的见证人队伍。随着交易量的不断提升,社区希望看到的是足够可靠而坚实的见证人服务,是有见证人服务不达标选下去不发愁没人抢着顶上来,是根本不用担心节点失败/被攻击等等造成的节点数量过少。是见证人们都愿意积极地去提升自己的服务以争取投票人的信任。我们需要为达到这样的目的提供足够的经济激励。

与worker不同,见证人服务是高度可替代的,缺谁都行,而且是“干活拿钱“式的。见证人的选举机制本身就是一个很不错的股东评议+末位淘汰机制,干活不达标的,选下去就是了。

目前建议的目标工资额是4BTS/block,这是一个妥协后的相对保守的结果,对应的支出带来的年化通胀为1.6%左右。相信这个通胀率是完全可以接受的。

现在创建了worker为实施改动作最后的股东投票,希望大家投票支持“   agree to increase witness payment to 4BTS/block” 这一worker。

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General Discussion / Re: how about to raise block reward?
« on: February 01, 2017, 03:08:45 pm »
just create 2 worker to collect share base opinions before create committee proposal, please vote according to your opinion

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General Discussion / Re: how about to raise block reward?
« on: February 01, 2017, 03:29:22 am »
IMO it is pointless to expect witnesses to produce a "better" or "more accurate" or "more stable" pricefeed as long as there is no agreement about what that means.

The reality is that the prices differ on the exchanges, and not even in a consistent way (e.g. the price BTS -> CNY may be different from BTS -> USD -> CNY or BTS -> BTC -> CNY).

I now tend to use "reliable feed" instead of other words.
prices may differ between different exchanges, but they are not separated.

the settlement price should be high enough that when a shorter is force settled, he can buy back the collateral from from DEX or outside exchanges with price (settlement price + compensation) without big difficulties.

the settlement price should be low enough that the collateral ratio do not over evaluate the market value of the collateral.

I believe a trader can easily understand what I said.

it may be not easy to tell which is best from several acceptable price feed.
but it is easy to select unacceptable price feed and remove.

if all the price feed is acceptable, then the final settlement price should be good enough, that is what we need.

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