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General Discussion / Balance the exchange of feed price
« on: April 05, 2019, 01:20:53 am »
Maybe we need add a parameter to balance the exchange of feed price, the wittness exchange of the BTC, USDT, USD, BTS, DOLLOR, CNY were so different.

First: Remove the maximum and minimum effective feed price;

Second: the parameter Z=(The sum of the five effective feed price highter than median of witness feeds - The sum of the five effective feed price lower than median of witness feeds) / (The sum of the five effective feed price highter than median of witness feeds + The sum of the five effective feed price lower than median of witness feeds);

Third: the Final feed price=median of witness feeds*(1+the parameter Z)

how about?

roelandp   0.499   17秒钟前
gdex-witness   0.4986   23秒钟前
witness.still   0.4984   44秒钟前
witness.yao   0.496   1分钟前
zapata42-witness   0.496   2分钟前
in.abit   0.495   4分钟前
fox   0.4937   7分钟前
clockwork   0.4925   7分钟前
xn-delegate   0.4925   7分钟前
delegate-zhaomu   0.4908   11分钟前
crazybit   0.4895   11分钟前
delegate-1.lafona   0.4879   12分钟前
btspp-witness   0.4877   12分钟前
verbaltech2   0.4875   13分钟前
magicwallet.witness   0.4865   15分钟前
openledger-dc   0.4865   16分钟前
bangzi   0.4858   18分钟前
abc123   0.4857   20分钟前

the Final feed price=0.4908*(1+0.006233703)=0.4938

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BSIP59:Reduce MCR of bitCNY to 1.6
« on: April 05, 2019, 12:52:11 am »
To have stable coins in a highly dynamic environment, we need dynamic parameters to protect the environment and traders better.

In an oversold market lower MCR are needed to compensate the outflow of money and in an overbought market the higher MCR prevents from over collateralize the system.

We had a long way testing with 175% and BSIP42, and both failed. To improve the ecosystem I support the way/idea of @clockwork with dynamic parameters.
Having a constant MCR in a dynamic market brings more trouble, than benefits.


Having a dynamic parameters MCR in a dynamic market will bring more trouble, it's a disaster to the system.

i think we have learned some lessons from BSIP42, GS and other rule,but i found we didn't.

The high MCR, The high MSSR, dynamic MCR, dynamic MSSR, dynamic feed price, low settlement offset, the GS, all these were wrong thoughts,these can‘t solve anything,just destroy the market more quickly, more deep.


Additional safety features are needed to lower the MCR and help against price suppression.
With a auto settle function for holders with a MCR of 1 from the fee pool, we could avoid a GS. These BTS can be spent afterwards to pay the worker.

i agreed with this thought, it's have something in common with mine, maybe we need to set a insurance fund of GS and use the TARGET COLLATERAL RATIO to handle the CR of 1.10, if the insurance fund of GS can't handle, then black swan protection, if the CR which 40% of the whole system debit is down to 1.10, then settle the bitasset. 8)


i have gived a way to solve some problems: use the settlement offset,

Make the settlement offset varied with CR;

The settlement can have the TARGET COLLATERAL RATIO.

1. CR below the MCR will get less settlement offset, e.g. if you CR is 1.7, you will have 0 settlement offset, if you CR is 1.6, you will have -0.5% settlement offset, the Minimum settlement offset is -2%.

the settlement Delay below MCR will be one hour or more less.

2. CR above the MCR will get more settlement offset, e.g. if you CR is 1.8, you will have 2% settlement offset, if you CR is 2.0,  you will have 3% settlement offset. the Maximum settlement offset is 6%.

the settlement Delay above MCR still be 24 hours.

thoughts?

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只要喂价足够低,mssr足够大,连环爆仓就总会发生,抵押者全是待宰的羔羊。
的确是这样。

然而国外社区的有些理事与见证人的金融思维实在是让人着急,现在还处于天真的想法之中:

1. 认为高MSSR可以解决黑天鹅的问题,越高越好,认为还可以动态调整MSSR,来实现某种理想的状态;

这种高MSSR真的就能解决随吃的问题?他们从这个抵押系统设计的一开始到现在依然处于思维混沌之中,高MSSR只会让这个市场死的更快,爆仓单被吃市场情绪永远在起决定性作用。

2. 认为动态调节MCR就可以解决连环爆的问题;

MCR与MSSR如果动态调节将会是对整个抵押系统及市场的致命性打击,不管是MSSR还是MCR,就算是把这个世界上的最顶尖经济学家全部请来做BTS的见证人来随时动态调节这些参数,也会导致整个市场崩溃的更快。

3.认为现在的喂价足够公平;

一个坑给的教训还不够,两个坑给的教训难道还不够,还需要多少坑才能把这些人撞醒?

尤其是现在被baozi设置的新代理人Thul3,其很多时候只是为了反对而反对,对整个系统认识太过浅显,这是致命的。握有大量投票权重,就跟我们当初想要摇醒巨蟹一样。

血淋淋的教训已经很多次了,希望不要再犯同样的错误。

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加一条,加入分歧指数后不得超过次前五位的平均喂价。

额,应该不会超过的...

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General Discussion / Re: Introduce CEX in governance?
« on: April 03, 2019, 09:45:58 am »
I think the CEX can set the proxy to a multi-signature account which was controlled by all the committees.

this maybe make the voting power go to banlance again.

how about that?

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General Discussion / Re: Introduce CEX in governance?
« on: April 03, 2019, 07:46:28 am »
Disagree
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It is always bad that one single person control too much BTS, either the person is alt or me. as in a DPoS blockchain tokens means voting power.
If you need more voting power get more people activ.

I remember questioning over a year ago your centralised power and your answer was very clear to me.Get more BTS or holders supporting you (and noone disagreed with that).

I understand some people are unhappy with the 400k refund fund but thats not a reason to create a new voting system just because someone isn't voting in your favour (like reduce of MCR for bitcny).

Would alt be voting in your favour i highly doubt you would open that thread.
Also opening that thread where you lost that "centralised" power instead of opening when you had it gives it instantly a bad touch.

what's now? so?

The voting power is almost in the CEX, so how you can get the people back to DEX? or you have a better way which can push something forward, please give your solution.

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喂价这么严重问题理事会竟然视而不见,比外盘低,比内盘也低,喂价简直就是在取外盘最低价,而且还是很小的交易对。办法多的很,分叉的时候就不能考虑一下么?

是这种情况,

因为外部汇率变化太快,很多见证人并不会随时去修正汇率,中值喂价绝大多数时间之内都是远远偏离(偏低)实际法币价格,所以为了防止这种情况,需要加入一个喂价分歧指数来做平衡,得出来的价格会比中值喂价稍高一点,但不会超过次前五位见证人的喂价高点,与实际法币价格也相对接近。

这样价格上涨时,喂价会及时跟进上涨,而不会因为中值喂价不动而偏离;价格下跌时,也可以预防因本身就低的见证人的喂价大幅度快速拉低喂价,喂价会相对缓慢平滑下降,一些不该爆的仓位也不会爆,不会给内盘市场带来过多的爆仓冲击。

只要存在币种汇兑,出来的价格肯定会有偏差,这个差额也不会小,人人都自认为自己的喂价是正确的,没有问题,但是实际情况又如何哪?

喂价偏低带来的一个很严重的问题就是恶性强清的发生,前次2%强清补偿,因为P网禁止充提玩单机导致的恶性强清时间应该历历在目,当时许多见证人闭着眼在喂价格,从2%提高到5%花费了近一个月的时间,这在一个金融市场是难以接受的。

先在希望能改变两点,也是顽疾:

第一:修正喂价,加入一个分歧参数;

第二:
1.将强清补偿参数与抵押率挂钩,
2.强清也可以实现目标抵押率,
3.低于MCR的强清延迟时间缩短,高于MCR的强清延迟时间维持原来时间;

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General Discussion / Re: Introduce CEX in governance?
« on: April 03, 2019, 05:08:55 am »
GOOD!

The voting power must be balance.

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针对现在的喂价状况, 需要考虑一下喂价分歧指数.

1600
我想是时候来推进改变GS这一个有缺陷的设计。

连环爆仓,尸骨垒叠,秃鹫环伺。

姑且称现在的GS为秃鹫式GS,需要等到死透了才会下来啄食。

机制如此,不能怪人性,人本逐利,无可厚非。

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General Discussion / Re: Reduce MSSR of bitCNY to 1.01
« on: April 02, 2019, 11:26:15 pm »
Such method may will be cause new blackswan

The MSSR is not the reason which cause blackswan, you should clear.

MSSR=150% or 200%, the bitusd still will go to blackswan, the reason is not the MSSR, which cause the bitusd blackswan?the bitusd market sentiment and the GS.

i want to know the bitusd who own it ? how much got back in this revive?

The flawed GS design!!!

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: BitUSD 要复活了
« on: April 02, 2019, 02:21:48 pm »
BitUSD没有将MSSR调整到102%与黑天鹅保护机制,依然持保守态度。

希望这两个尽快提案通过。

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 将MSSR降为101
« on: April 02, 2019, 05:45:25 am »
我的看法是给中值喂价加分歧参数, 平滑性更好,也更能贴近市场价格的变化, 也能防止见证人在喂价上统一性的作恶.

至于MSSR,调整为101%可能需要102%多观察一段时间看看, 另外也需要其它规则的确立(比如将强清补偿与抵押率挂钩)才能实行的更好.

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