Can you guys please explain why you are supporting terradac and liondani as bitshares witnesses ?

Both provide no infrastructur no api and also don't participate activly in the progress of bitshares.

Big supporters of bitshares like blckchained who runs Rudex or clockwork who was running the last es-node are being voted out of bitshares because they are being replaced with poor witnesses like liondani or terradac.


Can you please explain how this is going to profit bitshares and not some personal agendas when we lose our infra and biggest supporters to leechers who don't even participate in bitshares?


You guys are aware that CEO Paul (Onceupontime) from Terradac died 2 months ago ?

Quote from: kenCode on April 03, 2020, 01:13:42 am

Quote from: abit on April 02, 2020, 09:50:12 pm

Good background. What will you do in the committee / as a committee member?

Our goal as agorists is to make Bitshares as trustless, distributed, zero-counterparty, fast, scalable, affordable, FOSS, anti-censorship, transparent, anti-aggression, sustainable, automated, agile, and anti-corruptible as possible. To that goal, we will continue to participate in as many discussions and groups as possible, to make the best business decisions possible.

Nice talks. But what to do with the committee? What business decisions are being discussed? Among them, which are the best?

Replacing inactive committee members

Why didn't you asked the same question to the other committee members ?
I guess he can't be worse than being 100% inactive like them

Quote from: Thul3 on April 03, 2020, 09:10:38 am

We will find a good solution to exclude the missuse of votes from custodian accounts which don't own them being used in the interest of individuals only instead of bitshares.

Example ZB = Voting based on one individual own point of view (being also used for inside deals supporting non bitshares people)
BEOS = Bought voting power which is against DPOS and consensus to force the bitshares community to accept and pay for BEOS integration.Massivly supporting inside deals (non active members on bitshares for committee and witnesses) and even scam workers.


CN-Vote has been created because a smart chinese group created a counter party to the massive abuse of BEOS for "buying" votes and its bad voting behavior to approve all workers and flooding the market with BTS from reserve pool.


Both examples showed for a very long time that votes from custodian accounts are not able to vote for the best interest of
bitshares and its community but only vote based on selfish interest destroying the community,stopping real progress , making a lot of big supporters leave or replace them with non active members on bitshares for their own personal benefit.See witnesses.

People vote as they please. Some might not like your voting, does that mean you will be excluded too?

Everyone has the right to vote as pleased with their own or delegated BTS (for nothing in return)

Vote buying is and was against DPOS and consensus same as CEX using their customers stake to participate in voting.

Our goal is to exclude custodian accounts like CEX,BEOS etc as we see their voting behavior is bad,mostly inactive and not participating and missused for the vision of a few users (which steem is a good example for) creating centralisation and high risk.
Also discouraging the participation in voting by smaller voters.

Added my vote back to you.


Hope you come back to committee to get the activity and logic thinking back there

Don't let them take full control!

1) Domain - given by original owner, never asked for it. Why nobody else picked it 2017 ? Ended up in non-profit as a request of community. Maybe community would be happier if I gave it back to CNX ?

1.Domain was given to you by "Stan"  .If i remember correctly bbf said themself that it was transfered in a wrong way which should never happen

2) your idea was for me to take on core worker. I was the only one willing to spend months on actually assembling core work, not just ask for money like other offers did without even idea what to do. I hold no core team, I manage core team for 35$/h which is nearly 5x less than previous manager

Correct that was in december with the argumentation of urgent need to develop important features like defi .
it was also the solution for your $3k need.

3) you as someone who was publicly destroying BBF in all groups this is a twist. We are attorney and a legal representative for the blockchain/community not the legal. Best part, i'm not even on the worker. Unless holders and move doesn't come to agreement what will be done that worker holds only legal liability for this ecosystem without taking single BTS. Small thanks would be nice if not vote

I and many other accused BBF of bad work and vote selling by adding their escrow.Still if i would have to decide about their and your legal worker i would chose theirs as even their escrow service was shitty their legal was always neutral even i hated their indirect threat of delisting.
Best option for me would be xanoxt because he has no relation to any bigger proxy.

4) once you, alt and cn-vote demonstrated very wrong centralization event of refund400k, I did what I had to protect the brand. You as holder had  BBF as legal representative 2.5 years to do so, and any of you holders individually for circa now 7 years. It's my fault you haven't paid 1200 euros or just made the order but I did ?

You had to protcect the brand ?I mean seriously its just a plan to gain more power on bitshares to make you indispensable.
I mean everyone disagreeing with your threats even i don't understand what they are worried about since you own nothing just an EU brand on a name and nothing more.BTS holders can always rebrand .You did it for your own personal benefit only to be indispensable.
I mean core members are even talking to pay some "fee" so you sit calm.

It's not a healthy situation and giving big power to such a person who is many times attacking people threating to sueing them for their voting decissions is not something i support.
Your demand about all social media accounts to get approved by you already showed how uncontrolled your actions are.
Did you had any authority to demand all social media accounts to get approved by you ?

And for ignorance on BBFs worker and position around the blockchain, why just not reach them out directly but just stiring publicly fire ?

I did spoke to them.Their answer get the worker active and we will see.

And to be clear - even cn-vote group came to reason and all they needed was someone willing really to break language barrier, while you in the meantime drifted away from it, without any concrete reason apart from trademark initiative that made you turn 180 degrees. You have some handles there ? What's up for real ? 

Oh you mean the new cn-vote leadership who is doing inside deals with beos ?
With BEOS from which owner you got the domain.
And which core worker you execute without even thinking if its at current situation really needed.
Didn't i asked you as first on december and pushed defi and other important features for bitshares ?
Even asked why its taking so long not knowing what happened to you and told you to take your time and during that time
you present a completly new core worker based on the nonsense of a group who tries to dictate everything with their garbage.


They just have 270 million votes.
How come they dictate everything what is on core proposal ?

I'm going to open my own worker with proposals which are real progress for bitshares to catch the big money flood which will accure soon because of negative interest.

You can focus on your $20 BS .

The political game of CN-Vote and BEOS is disgusting.

I supported old CN-Vote because their demand made sense but todays CN-Vote control demand is out of control.

Making inside deals with BEOS which is hardening BEOS position on bitshares because of some workers which creaters are in their favour/debt .

I supported CN-Vote because their policy at the beginning were my policy like:
"Being a witness is a privilage for supporters"
"Being a committee member is for supporters to change something activly"
"Approving only workers which are effective which is the reason to support refund400k"

Current CN-Vote lost totaly its old policy.

I don't know who took over power on CN-Vote that old leaders had been kicked out.You are currently clearly ANTI-Bitshares.

You vote witnesses active based on inside deals which did nothing for bitshares (where did you left the privilage of being a witness?)

You vote committee members active who never participated in committee for over a year.
For what purpose did you voted in inactive committee members ?

Now you push shitty workers which effectiveness is ZERO same as your stupid scammy exchanges on which we wasted so many BTS for nothing.


You guys are sure you are able to handle right decissions when supporting these kind of staff ?

Seriously ?



IMF is going to publish soon the new monetary system with negative interest rates which is being talked everywhere on closed financial news
and you focus on a worker to get $10-20 per day on fees instead on how to catch big cake of money which will flood crypto to avoid negative interest rates ?

You have no Defi......no HTLC Gdex and Rudex being the only two gateways  and so many problems which need to be fixed as soon as possible......

But you instead focus now on Fee sharing which is stupdity high ten.

Based on your comments i can tell you that you start focusing on Defi etc when it's already over and money have flooded crypto......

Always running the golden eggs behind because being unable to even predict what will happen in next 6 months and what to focus on on given time.


Also bitcrab please stop your manipulative games it's not working on me.

I can be called a tyrann or anything else i don't care.What i care is bitshares and my blood boils when i see the never ending stupidity from cn-vote which is coming from the past months.


You want to add your own and dead accounts to witness and committee .....
Ok no problem then also do the work .......

From today i also stop my activitiy as committee member so the inactive CN-Vote and BEOS puppets who are voted in by inside deals can do it themself.